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Warring GOP factions sink John Boehner plan
Politico ^ | 10/16/13

Posted on 10/16/2013 10:03:42 AM PDT by pabianice

One pocket of internal Republican opposition focused on Boehner’s plan to slash government contribution to health insurance for Capitol Hill aides. Boehner and his top lieutenants had already proposed that lawmakers, Obama, Vice President Joe Biden and political appointees at executive-branch agencies should lose the subsidy. But when Boehner expanded that ban to thousands of Hill staffers, a solid bloc of GOP lawmakers told Boehner they would oppose the bill.

Boehner still tried to press on.

Another rebellious faction believes repealing the medical-device tax was nothing but a giveaway to corporate America, not a part of Obamacare that should be erased.

And then there were the conservatives, who looked at Boehner, Cantor, and McCarthy’s plan, didn’t see any serious attempt to defund or repeal Obamacare, and took a pass. Several lawmakers in this group, sources say, were conservative House Republican freshmen.

By around 5:30 p.m. Tuesday, Boehner and his Republican leadership team decided enough was enough. They called off a Rules Committee meeting and decided that they would forgo a floor vote. There was even staff-level talk of a one-week debt ceiling bill to avoid default.

GOP lawmakers and aides, who spent hours in meetings with Boehner Tuesday, were shocked to see him upbeat as his House Republican Conference crumbled around him.

Boehner’s options, at this point, seem slim. Reid and McConnell were on the verge of a deal Tuesday night to lift the debt ceiling until Feb. 7, reopen government until Jan. 15 and create a budget conference committee that would be required to report results by Dec. 13. Treasury could extend the debt ceiling using extraordinary measures. Health and Human Services would be required to certify the income of those receiving subsidies under Obamacare.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gop4deficit; gop4dnc; gop4obama; gop4obamacare; gop4themselves; gop4treason; gopvsamerica; gopvsconstitution
Carney on TV now crowing about another victory for Obama.
1 posted on 10/16/2013 10:03:42 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice
“It’s very, very serious,” warned Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona. “Republicans have to understand we have lost this battle, as I predicted weeks ago, that we would not be able to win because we were demanding something that was not achievable.”

Full article here: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/16/us/politics/congress-budget-debate.html?adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1381904976-PzffqF23irY7YxEP2dJFBQ

2 posted on 10/16/2013 10:05:11 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice; All
-snip--> GOP lawmakers and aides, who spent hours in meetings with Boehner Tuesday, were shocked to see him upbeat as his House Republican Conference crumbled around him.

That says all I NEED TO KNOW!

3 posted on 10/16/2013 10:06:06 AM PDT by seeker41 (take your country back by whatever means necessary)
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To: pabianice

Translation: we didn’t allow him to cave. And now he has to get the votes of his leadership and the democrats. He’s done and he knows it.


4 posted on 10/16/2013 10:06:28 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: pabianice
"We really did go too far. We screwed up." "We won't be the last political party to overplay our hand. It might happen one day on the Democratic side. And if it did, would Republicans, for the good of the country, kind of give a little? We really did go too far. We screwed up. But their response is making things worse, not better."

- Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC).

5 posted on 10/16/2013 10:06:30 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

Boner’s gonna need ‘Rat support in the House as the real conservatives and tons of faux conservatives dive for cover on this vote.


6 posted on 10/16/2013 10:07:47 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: pabianice
Another rebellious faction believes repealing the medical-device tax was nothing but a giveaway to corporate America, not a part of Obamacare that should be erased.

Which "rebellious faction" was that?
7 posted on 10/16/2013 10:08:55 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (Be the Enemy Within the Enemy Within...)
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To: pabianice

If they could maybe give the staffers a reduced subsidy, like 50% instead of 75% - something akin to what many employers do. Staffers do more work than Congress. But Congress, the Courts, and the Executives who enrich themselves at the expense of taxpayers with cronies and inside trading: they should be fined, jailed, and forced to receive Zero Care.


8 posted on 10/16/2013 10:09:27 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: seeker41
...him upbeat as his House Republican Conference crumbled around him.

I think Boehner has reached the acceptance stage. He knows there's no painless way out for him so he has resigned himself to the fact that this is his last term. The relief that the pain will soon be over is what brings the smile.

9 posted on 10/16/2013 10:09:43 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Is John's moustache long enough YET?)
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To: pabianice

Team Romney and Team McCain win again.

The GOP is THE party of ObamaCARE/RomneyCARE
and every disgusting overlooking of treason
against the US Constitution.


10 posted on 10/16/2013 10:10:31 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: pabianice

I don’t understand why McCain isn’t facing a recall, like the would-be gun grabbers in Colorado did-is his embarrassing pandering what folks in Arizona really want, or does AZ law not permit that he be removed other than in a regular election?


11 posted on 10/16/2013 10:11:44 AM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: pabianice

Cruz could have stopped this. ANY senator could have. Has Cruz joined the RINOs?


12 posted on 10/16/2013 10:11:45 AM PDT by GodAndCountryFirst
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To: pabianice

Well...John *HIC!* Boehmer vs Mitch "the *Itch" McConnell;
seems like John's & Mitch's last stand, is really their last stands.

13 posted on 10/16/2013 10:20:28 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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To: pabianice
“It’s very, very serious,” warned Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona. “Republicans have to understand we have lost this battle, as I predicted weeks ago, that we would not be able to win because we were demanding something that was not achievable.”

Yes, because the best way to win is pre-emptive surrender.

Actually, when you have back-stabbers like McCain in your party, you're guaranteed to lose every time.
14 posted on 10/16/2013 10:21:16 AM PDT by Antoninus (Sorry, gone rogue.)
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To: GodAndCountryFirst
Has Cruz joined the RINOs?
not likely, got stabbed in the back "by his Establishment Friends"...

15 posted on 10/16/2013 10:25:00 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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To: Paine in the Neck
I think Boehner has reached the acceptance stage. He knows there's no painless way out for him so he has resigned himself to the fact that this is his last term. The relief that the pain will soon be over is what brings the smile.

I think he has no intention to leave. I believe the knowledge that he could have a stiff drink after caving is why he was smiling.

16 posted on 10/16/2013 10:27:34 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

"Screw you, America."

17 posted on 10/16/2013 10:28:49 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: skinkinthegrass

He could have played the Senate rules to drag the whole thing out as long as possible. He didn’t. He stood aside and let the debt ceiling get raised. He is a coward.


18 posted on 10/16/2013 10:28:59 AM PDT by GodAndCountryFirst
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To: GodAndCountryFirst

I see newbie that the DU faction is active today.


19 posted on 10/16/2013 10:33:57 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead...)
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To: pabianice

The only plan Boehner has and had is to side with the Libs. He never intended to side with the people.


20 posted on 10/16/2013 10:35:05 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: GodAndCountryFirst
Cruz could have stopped this. ANY senator could have. Has Cruz joined the RINOs?

How stupid are you to blame the only guy who had the cojones to fight this?
21 posted on 10/16/2013 10:36:19 AM PDT by Antoninus (Sorry, gone rogue.)
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To: Antoninus

Just shows that we cannot put our faith in the GOP — any part of it.


22 posted on 10/16/2013 10:38:30 AM PDT by GodAndCountryFirst
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To: GodAndCountryFirst
Just shows that we cannot put our faith in the GOP — any part of it.

TIME to FORM a NEW PARTY.

23 posted on 10/16/2013 10:45:09 AM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: VideoDoctor

Agreed. The American Liberty Party has a nice ring to it.


24 posted on 10/16/2013 10:55:01 AM PDT by GodAndCountryFirst
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To: GodAndCountryFirst

You smell like a troll.


25 posted on 10/16/2013 10:55:18 AM PDT by Gator113 (Ted Cruz is settled law.)
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To: Gator113

“I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!” - Barry Goldwater

I shower every day and am a defender of liberty through and through.


26 posted on 10/16/2013 11:01:29 AM PDT by GodAndCountryFirst
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To: dfwgator

“I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them. It is not to inaugurate new programs, but to cancel old ones that do violence to the Constitution, or that have failed their purpose, or that impose on the people an unwarranted financial burden.” - Barry Goldwater


27 posted on 10/16/2013 11:03:14 AM PDT by GodAndCountryFirst
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To: GodAndCountryFirst
Welcome to FR.

He didn’t. He stood aside and let the debt ceiling get raised. He is a coward.

Try and get your feet wet first, before calling anyone a coward. Not only is it proper Nettiquette, but you can make FRiends and influence people too.

5.56mm

28 posted on 10/16/2013 11:04:16 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: pabianice
“It’s very, very serious,” warned Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona. “Republicans have to understand we have lost this battle, as I predicted weeks ago, that we would not be able to win because we were demanding something that was not achievable.”

I really despise John McCain.
29 posted on 10/16/2013 11:04:39 AM PDT by caligatrux
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To: M Kehoe

OK... maybe I went to far. Cruz IS mostly a friend. I am just ticked off. Tough day for American patriots.


30 posted on 10/16/2013 11:17:08 AM PDT by GodAndCountryFirst
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To: GodAndCountryFirst
"Cruz could have stopped this."

How?

31 posted on 10/16/2013 11:21:30 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: lonestar

Most things in the Senate that have to happen fast require unanimous consent. Any senator could have spoken up and demanded time for a debate.


32 posted on 10/16/2013 11:24:34 AM PDT by GodAndCountryFirst
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To: pabianice

No. McCain, you didn’t lose that battle. Your side, the RAT Party, won...thanks to turncoats like you and Ayotte!


33 posted on 10/16/2013 11:43:16 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: pabianice
If Boehner engineers a total cave and he gives Reid and Obama everything they want, then he should be removed. [He should never have been reelected Speaker, but we can't undo that.]

The next major disaster will be Immigration Reform. The Donkeys and Rino Gopee are salivating over passage.

The concurrent event with Immigration Reform and beyond will be the attempted purge of all TEA Party and conservatives members from Republican ranks. This will be ramrodded by the establishment GOP, RINOs, Donkeys, and MSM. The Republican Party as currently constituted needs to become as relevant as the Whigs.

34 posted on 10/16/2013 12:30:01 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: GodAndCountryFirst
Cruz could have filibustered. But would it have changed anything?

Cruz is very intelligent and knows the difference between losing a battle and losing the war.

There are many looming battles to be fought.

35 posted on 10/16/2013 12:35:24 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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