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Boehner Statement on Bipartisan Senate Agreement to Reopen Government, Avoid Default
Speaker of the House of Representatives ^ | Wednesday, October 16, 2013 | John Boehner

Posted on 10/16/2013 12:35:14 PM PDT by kristinn

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I think Boehner is likely correct they will try to undo sequestration if they don’t take these cuts. Since sequestration has not been a big issue, we need to let that continue for now.

Honestly, we made zero progress in getting the Dems to cave, and it has been weeks.

Many Freepers seem to believe Obama would just miraculously cave after a little time. Well, that didn’t happen.

Boehner did a good job even shutting things down at all. Is he caving? Yes.

But, seriously, what did you expect to accomplish? We could do this for six months and nothing would change except the polls turning more against us. Yes, the polls show Obama is in a bad place as well, but they do blame Republicans more, and at higher levels than the start of the shutdown. If we kept it up another 3 weeks, that would have only turned against us even more.

This is a terrible outcome, to do this and get nothing. But, many predicted it is what would happen, and it did.

There is simply no way to win fighting the SIGNATURE legislation of the opposition party when you only hold one piece of the government!

Go back and demand negotiations once it’s over, but don’t threaten default. As much as people say we won’t default tomorrow, and there is plenty of money and it would be on Obama, the officials who the credit ratings agencies LISTEN TO say we will default, and we don’t want even a threat of that happening.

Sorry, but this whole tactic was doomed to fail.


51 posted on 10/16/2013 12:52:32 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: kristinn

Just like the Democrats picked an off-election year to dump Obamacare on us, the Republicans can afford to do aggressive and even seemingly stupid things to slow it down, change it or even stop it. WAKEUP! If people already forgot what the Democrats did to get Obamacare to this point in history, they aren’t going to remember anything that the Republicans did to stop it a year from now.


52 posted on 10/16/2013 12:52:36 PM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: arkfreepdom
I say let’s do this again in 2-3 months. This will never end. We are broke. The one good thing Obama and the dims have done is to push all of this to the breaking point.

Just in time for primary season...sounds like a plan!

Only one thing to do...get up off the floor and keep fighting. I'm not despondent at all, and I'm looking forward to the primaries next year.

53 posted on 10/16/2013 12:53:20 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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To: Longbow1969

Did you really think sending Tea Party conservatives to DC was NOT going to cause the GOP-e to have a few fits?


54 posted on 10/16/2013 12:55:13 PM PDT by EBH ( The Day of the Patriot has arrived.)
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To: rwfromkansas

“Default” is a lie. There is no danger of default, more than enough money comes in to make debt payments.


55 posted on 10/16/2013 12:56:15 PM PDT by Ray76 (Get thee behind me, Obama.)
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To: kristinn
The House has fought with everything it has to convince the president of the United States ....

Why is it your job or the House's job to try to convince the president of anything???

56 posted on 10/16/2013 12:57:02 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Hostage

The Rats would be foolish not to support bohner as he just gave them an early Christmas present,


57 posted on 10/16/2013 12:58:12 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: VRWCarea51
RE :”We have won a great victory for the cause. ;) ......Now take the fight to the Rat bastards!”

???? We were told that was the whole idea behind this, we were lied to??? AGHHHHH

The rats are laughing and dancing in the streets.
The mice walked right into their traps.

So next time will there be a plan to win???, or will only the Dems be allowed one?

58 posted on 10/16/2013 12:59:28 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: rawhide
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3079774/posts
59 posted on 10/16/2013 12:59:28 PM PDT by Frank Sheed (The injustice of trendiness is nearly dualistic in its isomorphism.)
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To: rawhide

Republicans don’t need the democrats to remove Boehner.

All they need to do is convene quickly even electronically and count the votes they have to remove him.

I don’t think Boehner knows if has enough votes to sustain his Speakership. I think he is daring the republican caucus to move to remove him. If they don’t, Boehner will have removed any leverage they have and that means Obamacare wins totally because Boehner will never fight to defund or delay it.


60 posted on 10/16/2013 1:03:11 PM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: kristinn
....In addition to the risk of default....

No wonder we're so screwed, even our "leader(s)" falls for the demoncrap lies.

61 posted on 10/16/2013 1:03:50 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Each member of congress will answer to their constituency for their vote. I have a say, regarding McConnel. He’s running in 2014. I’ll vote democrat before I vote for him. I really hate career politicians, regardless of party.


62 posted on 10/16/2013 1:04:12 PM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: freedom462

Pick up the pace? Exactly!

To fight ObamaCare, we need to post horror story after horror story of ObamaCare’s failures.
And we also need to tell the kids they’ve been snookered by “the One”.

We might also remind the weak-minded that a “healthcare” bill written by lobbyists for America’s biggest insurance companies is NOT going to reduce insurance industry profits.

I also think we need to start talking about how gangster government relies on fake crisis after fake crisis to steal the people’s money. The next fake crisis on the debt limit arrives in just 3 months...


63 posted on 10/16/2013 1:04:19 PM PDT by pfony1
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To: rwfromkansas

There is simply no way to win fighting the SIGNATURE legislation of the opposition party when you only hold one piece of the government!
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Unless it’s the most important piece. $


64 posted on 10/16/2013 1:06:35 PM PDT by sanjuanbob
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Typical....stopped taking comments on facebook after an avalanche of negative posts....

Next step for me is to work on removing Peter King form congress...I will do all I can to ensure his republican opponent wins....if another GOPe is nominated or runs agaisnt him....I will sit it out....to heck with them...if this is what we can expect as representation...
65 posted on 10/16/2013 1:08:40 PM PDT by PigRigger (Donate to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org - The Troops have our front covered, let's guard their backs!)
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To: kristinn

Resign your office, Mr. Boehner. Then you can spend as much time as you want out on the golf course where you belong.


66 posted on 10/16/2013 1:08:56 PM PDT by jpl (The government spent another half a million bucks in the time it just took you to read this tagline.)
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To: Ray76

Have heard that, but at least one credit agency says otherwise, so they obviously are listening to the Obama admin saying there isn’t enough money. Not worth the risk.


67 posted on 10/16/2013 1:10:51 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: CedarDave

Really? That’s the BEST they could do?

Right out of the box he’s using Dem/MSM talking-points. THAT’s the ‘best that could be expected’? The GOPe vilified Cruz/Lee, and Boehner couldn’t raise an objection? How about the poor old Constitution or the economic enslavement of our posterity?

Where the HELL was Boehner/McConnell EVERY DAY of this ‘shutdown’ HAMMERING point after point after point? NO WHERE.

Don’t piss on my leg...rain...you get the picture. If a (L) like me can be this f* pissed-off, I don’t see how ANY (C) can give such a flippant remark.


68 posted on 10/16/2013 1:11:10 PM PDT by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of the problem(s).)
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To: Olog-hai

Note that I said “May” and the proof will be a year from now.
If we had delayed Obamacare until after mid/late 2014, we would have taken the Dems off the hook, at least partially.


69 posted on 10/16/2013 1:11:46 PM PDT by expat2
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To: kristinn

We should send him kleenex. His face seems to have something on it.


70 posted on 10/16/2013 1:19:33 PM PDT by Vermont Lt ( 1-800-318-2596, Mr President.)
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To: Paladin2
Cruz needs to stand for election as Speaker.

Well, there's no legal requirement that the speaker be a Congressman, so I suppose Senator Cruz could try, but I don't think he would get far.

71 posted on 10/16/2013 1:23:52 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: kristinn
Dear john,
GFY
72 posted on 10/16/2013 1:25:57 PM PDT by novemberslady
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To: TitansAFC

Good summation.

The GOP is done. Stick a fork in it.


73 posted on 10/16/2013 1:31:02 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: FR_addict

The press knew that he would cave.

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That’s not all. The market was up strongly this morning. They knew as well.


74 posted on 10/16/2013 1:33:25 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: kristinn

And notice congress and it’s staff still get huge subsidies. That fact that the American people aren’t in the streets shows just how far gone we are. If everyone could get on the healthcare website and get prices, they might yet get into the streets.


75 posted on 10/16/2013 1:33:41 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Frank Sheed
Sad day for this country...

Just means an economic implosion is inevitable. This solves none of the financial problems. Chase bank now looks like it is having troubles. So in the end, we will have our zombie apocalypse and the revolution.

76 posted on 10/16/2013 1:35:23 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: rwfromkansas

GOP didn’t have much credibility to begin with. Now its totally destroyed. And worse, it handed over its power of the purse to the president and senate. This sets a terrible presedent that will never be reversed.


77 posted on 10/16/2013 1:37:00 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: VerySadAmerican

I don’t know. I just talked to a couple in Michigan that had their insurance cancelled because it didn’t meet Obamacare standards. They were paying 420 per month.

They called to get a new price for what they must have, turns out they will get more coverage with about the same co-pay and deductable. For 340 dollars a month, plus the government pays a 10,000 subsity to the Insurance Co.

Only in America!


78 posted on 10/16/2013 1:38:31 PM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: justa-hairyape

Just means an economic implosion is inevitable.

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Lost in all this debate is the stark fact that the U.S. has a serious spending addiction. It cannot stop spending despite the fact that it has to borrow to keep the game going. At some point the music will stop.


79 posted on 10/16/2013 1:39:31 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: kristinn

Boehner=sellout


80 posted on 10/16/2013 1:41:35 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) ( Hey Rubio, eat pooh pal))
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To: kristinn

Complete and total surrender.


81 posted on 10/16/2013 1:52:36 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: CedarDave
Unfortunately, it’s the best that could be expected given the current makeup of Congress.

B$. It is exactly what most of us expected, but hardly the best that could be expected. Every Conservative that fought the good fight should switch to the democratic party, let the GOPe try and rule from the minority position. They could then have a new leadership vote, would be interesting for sure.

82 posted on 10/16/2013 1:55:33 PM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: Starboard

It’s long been the case that the President typically leads on the budget, so not a shocker there unfortunately. But, they are weakened now.


83 posted on 10/16/2013 2:09:34 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: kristinn
... blocking the bipartisan agreement ... would open the door for the Democratic majority in Washington to raise taxes ..."

Do you expect anyone to believe that, Boehner?

Your caucus controls the House.

84 posted on 10/16/2013 2:14:12 PM PDT by Kennard
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To: kristinn

There is no risk of default. It’s a fake, but Obama and the Dems are the biggest losers.

The side note is that the GOPe is working to undermine the conservative base. They do that and it’s Democrats all the way.


85 posted on 10/16/2013 2:22:26 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: rawhide

Are you taking your ball home, too?

Obamacare is a wreck.

The fight begins anew in February. The debt isn’t going away.

If the numbers are true then the CR is for the lower end of spending.

We need to keep fighting and win the Congress in 2014. Then the real fun begins.

Keep in mind the entire reason that Obama and Co. came up with this strategy out of desperation.


86 posted on 10/16/2013 2:24:59 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

Extends debt ceiling through Feb 7(Bammy wanted a year)
FEDGUVINC is funded through Jan 15.
A new conference set up for long term entitlement reform headed by Paul Ryan and Patty Murray(starts Dec 13)
If no cuts are decided on, sequestrations remains in effect (a good thing-they really kick in Jan. 2014)

Not the worst possible outcome considering Cruz NEVER had the numbers.


87 posted on 10/16/2013 3:22:09 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: sickoflibs; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; NFHale

This was a given, which is why I didn’t pay much attention to this shutdown, just sat and waited for the end.

I’m tired of the fearmongering about democrats winning in the House. In Obama’s 6 year midterm? Zero% chance of that. Zero. The President’s party gains in a midterm only when the President is very popular and even then they gain slightly.

BTW Boehner, bending to his will probably won’t hurt his popularity, numbnuts. How did Clinton do when Newt bent over? Hmm?


88 posted on 10/16/2013 3:24:03 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Slings and Arrows

I don’t know what they are supposed to do if they don’t have the votes.


89 posted on 10/16/2013 3:27:28 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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90 posted on 10/16/2013 4:09:04 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: kristinn
...and avoid a national default:

Don't you hate it when the introductory sentence contains a brazen, shameless lie?

91 posted on 10/16/2013 4:11:44 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: jeffc
John “Give Up” Boehner, the Democrat in Republican clothing.

More like John "The Spelunker" Boehner, he loves caving

92 posted on 10/16/2013 4:12:04 PM PDT by Ez2BRepub
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To: RobbyS
"The legislative coalition the president has relied upon to force his health care law on the American people.”

Which we now know includes up to 25 members of the Republican Minority in the Senate and and an equal number in the House.

Excellent point.

93 posted on 10/16/2013 4:13:46 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Slings and Arrows

“He caved.”

What’s new?

He always caves.


94 posted on 10/16/2013 4:44:54 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (We have No Opposition to Obam a's Socialist Agenda:)
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To: kristinn

Surrender monkey.


95 posted on 10/16/2013 4:59:10 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: kristinn

What a damned cry baby liar! The democrats can’t raise taxes without the house. Does he not know that all spending must originate in the house? That the house is supposed to control the purse? What he just did was gave obama complete dictatorial powers.

They must have so much dirt on him it’s sickening. They’ve go so much dirt they’ve told that even if he resigns they’ll destroy him. That’s what we get for electing crooks and creeps.


96 posted on 10/16/2013 5:31:29 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: jimbo807

Pelosi has already said which democrats will be allowed to vote “no” for re-election purposes.


97 posted on 10/16/2013 5:37:52 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: 1010RD

Go ahead and fight all you want. I am through! The republicans can all join the Rats for all I care.

There is absolutely no difference between the 2 parties, none.

What is the use of having a majority if you are not willing to use it and stand your ground!


98 posted on 10/16/2013 5:39:09 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: rwfromkansas
Sorry, but this whole tactic was doomed to fail.

Yes it was doomed to fail, but not for the reasons you think. I said from the beginning even before it was passed and even when many here believed the Supreme Court would knock it down, that it would be the law because most of the GOPe wanted it, period.

99 posted on 10/16/2013 5:43:38 PM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: Impy; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; NFHale
RE :”This was a given, which is why I didn’t pay much attention to this shutdown, just sat and waited for the end.”

That was a given before it even started. I couldn't resist posting here during the fight but once the shutdown started I knew to keep my predictions to myself, till ~ 10pm last night.

It was all just too obvious.

RE :”BTW Boehner, bending to his will probably won’t hurt his popularity, numbnuts. How did Clinton do when Newt bent over? Hmm?”

Good intro for my point.
I listen to Levin every night his first half hour and last night he was prepping his audience for this by spinning that the GOP coming cave was Obama illegally taking over power from congress, a 'constitutional crisis', not kidding.

Now tonight Levin is ripping Bohner.
Buuuut leading up to this fight (Oct 1) he was working his audience and his listening house members by romanticizing Newts shutdown not mentioning that he caved just like Bohner did now. It was glorious to see Clinton at Newts knees.

So Newt did it 20 years ago and it was glorious, Bohner did it now and tonight he called it a ‘disaster’
How time flies on talk radio LOL.

It was a disaster

100 posted on 10/16/2013 6:16:31 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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