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Norquist: Defunders Owe Conservatives an Apology
National Review Online ^ | October 16, 2013 3:32 PM | Betsy Woodruff

Posted on 10/16/2013 1:14:33 PM PDT by SoConPubbie

Grover Norquist isn’t happy with the Defunders. The Americans for Tax Reform president told reporters today that they have a lot of apologies to make and bridges to re-build.

“It’d be a good idea if they stopped referring to other Republicans as Hitler appeasers because they opposed the strategy they put forward which failed,” Norquist says. “I think if you make a mistake as big as what they did, you owe your fellow senators and congressmen a big apology — and your constituents, as well, because nothing they did advanced the cause of repealing or dismantling Obamacare.”

Norquist refrained from naming the specific people who he thinks owe apologies to the rest of the conservative movement, but his reference is transparent — during his lengthy floor speech, Senator Ted Cruz said Republicans who supported a CR that would fund Obamacare were comparable to Neville Chamberlain.

Norquist adds that the defund effort has hurt its proponents’ goals.

“They hurt the conservative movement, they hurt people’s health care, they hurt the country’s economic situation and they hurt the Republican party,” he says. “And a lot of congressmen and senators are not going to win because we spent three months chasing our own tail — or at least, parts of the conservative movement spent three months chasing their own tail.”

He also compared the Defunders’ strategy to that of the Iraq invasion.

“These are the people who said, ‘Plan: Step One, Invade Iraq. Step Two, It turns into Kansas,’” Norquist says. “Could I ask if there’s anything in between Step One and Step Two? ‘Oh ye of little faith.’”


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1 posted on 10/16/2013 1:14:33 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

Grover needs to loosen his burkha and remember what planet he lives on


2 posted on 10/16/2013 1:15:36 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: SoConPubbie

KMAG

Kiss my *ss Grover.


3 posted on 10/16/2013 1:16:20 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: SoConPubbie; Republicanprofessor; chicagolady; nurse-rn; ConservativeDude; Kennard; Luircin; ...
Ted Cruz Ping!

If you want on/off this ping list, please let me know.

Please beware, this is a high-volume ping list!


Remember this Traitor boys and girls.

This is what a Collaborator, a Pretender looks like.

Grover Norquist.

4 posted on 10/16/2013 1:16:24 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

Screw NorQreer.


5 posted on 10/16/2013 1:16:48 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: SoConPubbie

I’m ashamed to admit that twenty years ago I was quite the disciple of Grover and worked with him quite a bit.

Now he’s just another two-bit whore to the political class and the Wahabbists.


7 posted on 10/16/2013 1:17:27 PM PDT by abb
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To: SoConPubbie

Here’s my apology, Norquist:

I apologize for thinking that the GOP represents my core beliefs. Tomorrow, I’ll be changing my political affiliation from Republican to Independent.


8 posted on 10/16/2013 1:17:39 PM PDT by steerpike100
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To: GeronL

Grover Al Norquist needs to move to some middle eastern hell hole and marry a herd of nanny goats and leave Americans alone.


9 posted on 10/16/2013 1:18:22 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SoConPubbie
Oh, good. The one guy more corrosive and damaging to American conservatism than Karl Rove is heard from.

Mr. niteowl77

10 posted on 10/16/2013 1:18:40 PM PDT by niteowl77 ("There's nothing a vulture hates more than biting into a glass eye.")
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To: SoConPubbie
Hey Groveer...stuff a sock in it.

Boehner may be all ready to roll over...but there are many of us who aren't.

The GOP conservative should rebel in the House against Boehner and vote him out as the Speaker and replace him with a conservative Speaker willing to do battle and take Obama to the mat.

In fact the GOP should take the following line in talking to Obama.

"Look, Barry, we have the votes to stop you cold, and we have decided to use those votes.

"We control government funduing and we are going to exercise that control.

"We are talking about a complete shutdown where not so much as a dime will be available for you to even heat the White House, so get ready to stay at the local Holiday Inn on your own dime for the duration. Also, tell Michelle she can send her 100+ assistants home to, and weed her own garden.

"The only thing we will fund during that time is the US military you hate so much.

"When you are ready to talk about seriously creating a budget...one that is balanced, one that really reduces the debt...and we are talking about a true reduction in the actual amount we owe, not just a reduction in the percentage of your spending increases...and a budget we that puts an end to ObamCare. When you are ready to seriously talk to us about those things...get back with us.

"Oh, BTW, Barry. One other thing we will fund is the following. The House of Reprentatives will meet each day with the express purpose of impeaching your sorry backside each day for the next 60 working days. Impeach you each day on a different charge. 60 impeachments, Barry. When you get ready to talk to us, then the first thing the Senate will have to take up is those 60 impeachments. Think about that while you are waiting, and watching.

"So, we have the votes, and we are firm. Give us a call when you are ready to talk. Bye now."
That's the discussion a real Speaker of the House should be having with Obama.

AMERICA AT THE CROSSROADS OF HISTORY

11 posted on 10/16/2013 1:18:42 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: SoConPubbie

Notice The Muslim loving Norquist never mentions his and RINO’s strategy.
Just blames conservatives. Norquist, I congratulate you on your soon to
be winning strategy of surrender. Surrender has won the day.


12 posted on 10/16/2013 1:18:46 PM PDT by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: SoConPubbie

I’ve got news for Grover.

Conservatives ARE the ‘defunders’.

Well, that’s my perception. Anyone not willing to look at constitutionality of the thing, not to mention the destruction, both immediate and for future economic prospects generations from now, I can’t see as being conservative.

Honestly, some of these contemporary philosophers get too wrapped up.


13 posted on 10/16/2013 1:18:48 PM PDT by stanne
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To: SoConPubbie
When is Grover going to apologize for declaring that an end to ethanol subsidies is a tax increase?

When is he going to apologize for the K Street monster he helped to create?

When is he going to apologize for being a Muzzie supporter?

{crickets}

14 posted on 10/16/2013 1:18:52 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: SoConPubbie

I was going to say, FUN, but it doesn’t have the same impact as FUBO


15 posted on 10/16/2013 1:18:53 PM PDT by wattsgnu
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To: SoConPubbie

“they hurt people’s health care”

Huh? Grover’s been in DC too long.


16 posted on 10/16/2013 1:19:07 PM PDT by MNnice
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To: SoConPubbie

Grover Norquist......what a genuine douchebag!!


17 posted on 10/16/2013 1:19:38 PM PDT by kenmcg (scapegoat)
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To: SoConPubbie

Fatty just wants his power base back


18 posted on 10/16/2013 1:20:01 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: SoConPubbie

Grover can go cry on Karl Rove’s shoulder, two peas in a pod.


19 posted on 10/16/2013 1:20:22 PM PDT by TexasCajun (Creepy-Ass Cracka -- Don't Call Me Cracker)
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To: SoConPubbie

Grover can go move to Saudi Arabia.


20 posted on 10/16/2013 1:20:46 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: SoConPubbie
“It’d be a good idea if they stopped referring to other Republicans as Hitler appeasers"

Its nice to know he reads FR but the term I used was "Kapos" and I include is pathetic islamderthal ass among them.
21 posted on 10/16/2013 1:21:14 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SoConPubbie

So they should apologize to the Chamberlain wing of the GOP for relying on them to actually hold firm?


22 posted on 10/16/2013 1:22:53 PM PDT by Ingtar (The NSA - "We're the only part of government who actually listens to the people.")
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To: SoConPubbie

B.S. The defunders ARE the conservatives.


23 posted on 10/16/2013 1:23:16 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Norquist is an islam-builder.

Deport the f***er to Afghanistan.


24 posted on 10/16/2013 1:23:45 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com/2013/10/04/nicolae-hussein-obama/)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

He must have meant conservative Muslims.


25 posted on 10/16/2013 1:24:11 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: SoConPubbie

We don’t owe those bastards anything. They are NOT conservatives. They are PROGRESSIVES!


26 posted on 10/16/2013 1:25:24 PM PDT by Cricket24
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To: GeronL

GrovertheA-rab don’ his thang for the ummah.


27 posted on 10/16/2013 1:25:44 PM PDT by Flintlock ("The redcoats are coming" -- TO SEIZE OUR GUNS!!--Paul Revere)
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To: SoConPubbie

Norquist is pro ObamaCare....pro Islamic Terrorist....pro Illegal Alien....and no real conservative pays attention to him or ACU

You cant be pro Tax ObamaCare and claim you are an American conservative for tax reform


28 posted on 10/16/2013 1:26:03 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Fact Is: GOPe want ObamaCare.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Your classic inside the Beltway parasite living off the fat of the land

29 posted on 10/16/2013 1:26:19 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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Go to hell Grover! When will you republicna ninnies ever learn??? You can't win a frigging thing if you don't stay in the fight to the end!!! When your strtegy is to surrender as soon as the MSM starts hurting your feelings you will lose evry time.

Good God almighty! I heve nothing but contempt for republicans and their minions.

30 posted on 10/16/2013 1:26:42 PM PDT by pgkdan
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To: SoConPubbie

No we don’t. No STFU and go retire with Karl Rove.


31 posted on 10/16/2013 1:29:51 PM PDT by Usagi_yo
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“They hurt the conservative movement, they hurt people’s health care, they hurt the country’s economic situation and they hurt the Republican party,” he says

Un....no.

Hurt the conservative movement? No. They told the truth and sometimes the truth hurts, even if no one wants to hear it.

Hurt people's health care? Absolute lie.

Hurt the economy? Nope, another lie. Grover you should be shaking in your shoes along with the rest of the nation if you are just figuring out we are 2 weeks away from total collapse at any given moment. No apology for that, none. They didn't do it, didn't put the country in this situation.

Hurt the Republican Party? Well, Ok maybe...a little. But really, really...the GOP embarrassed themselves first all by their little lonesomes.

32 posted on 10/16/2013 1:30:52 PM PDT by EBH ( The Day of the Patriot has arrived.)
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To: SoConPubbie
Grover is on the same page as admitted communist Van Jones. Let that sink in a bit.
33 posted on 10/16/2013 1:32:41 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason ("Journalism is dead. All news is suspect." - Noamie)
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Hey Grover, the only reason the GOP looks bad is because people do not like you guys. Your bunch can’t even win elections. The middle class and the poor hate you elitists. Why are you unable to face the truth? For 8 years the establishment GOP has produced nothing but failure. The only reason we have the House is not because of your type.

You owe the GOP base an apology. But don’t bother. You reap what you sow. And by the way. Get your Muzzie lovin’ass behind me and apologize to the American people about your association with bloodthirsty death cults who are out to takeover and kill them. You Grover, are a disgrace.


34 posted on 10/16/2013 1:32:56 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Olog-hai

That’s a good point. He seems to like them just fine.


35 posted on 10/16/2013 1:34:44 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Another buggy whip maker who is ignored.


36 posted on 10/16/2013 1:35:27 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: SoConPubbie
Grover Norquist, among his other distinct failings, is guilty of the intellectual dishonesty of one who says, "I told you so" when the event is the result of his own self fulfilling prophecy.

Grover Norquist was one of a Greek chorus of gainsayers who not only predicted failure for Obamacare but rooted for it and did everything within their power publicly and privately to accomplish its failure.

His hands and their hands are dirty.


37 posted on 10/16/2013 1:35:37 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: SoConPubbie

Me thinks there is an all-out effort to avoid blame in this man’s statements.

Considering how shocked the LIV’s are at the reality of Obamacare, those who were adamantly working to fight it might come out looking pretty popular with a lot of Americans. For the LIV, opposing Obamacare was an attempt to save the LIV from suffering a big bill/tax increase. What can the appeasers tout?


38 posted on 10/16/2013 1:35:44 PM PDT by iacovatx (Conservatism is the political center--it is not "right" of center)
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To: SoConPubbie

If I were Norquist, I’d be wiping my ass with the Tea Party too....


39 posted on 10/16/2013 1:38:37 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: SoConPubbie

The Vidkun Quisling of conservatives speaks! Listen and be amazed!


40 posted on 10/16/2013 1:41:09 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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My goal is to cut government in half in twenty-five years, to get it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub. -- Grover Norquist

Jump in, Grover, the water's fine.

41 posted on 10/16/2013 1:42:08 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: TexasCajun

In this case I think you spelled PEAS wrong.
It should read PEES.


42 posted on 10/16/2013 1:43:33 PM PDT by certrtwngnut (')
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To: SoConPubbie

Everyone is wussying in front of the One. Pathetic. The message against the cultivation of disease and handicaps by Obamacare should be easy to shape, and that is all.

What is it with people who cannot stay on language?


43 posted on 10/16/2013 1:43:44 PM PDT by lavaroise
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To: SoConPubbie

Grover has it backwards. Besides, Conservatives DID WANT to defund Democratcare! The others are not conservative.


44 posted on 10/16/2013 1:44:29 PM PDT by jch10 ("Normandy was closed when we got there too!")
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To: GeronL

Man, it is so obvious that Barry has pics of Grover doing farm animals. Guy is a loon!


45 posted on 10/16/2013 1:46:27 PM PDT by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: tet68

Mine, too, Grover!


46 posted on 10/16/2013 1:51:19 PM PDT by lu shissler (ecause)
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To: SoConPubbie

Norquist just wants “his” immigration bill.


47 posted on 10/16/2013 2:00:02 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (ZeroCare: Make them pay; do not delay.)
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To: tet68

I couldn’t have said it better!


48 posted on 10/16/2013 2:01:20 PM PDT by rhubarbk (It's official, I'm suffering from Obama fatigue!)
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To: steerpike100

Sent an email earlier telling the GOP pretty much the same thing. Done holding my nose and voting for dem-lite(GOPe). From here on out, I will only vote for conservatives. The republicans have lost my vote.


49 posted on 10/16/2013 2:03:17 PM PDT by mikefive (RLTW)
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To: SoConPubbie

Did Cruz ruin our health care, or did the Senators who did not join him in voting against cloture?

How is health care improved if full Obamacare funding was passed with no protest?


50 posted on 10/16/2013 2:04:35 PM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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