Skip to comments.US debt ceiling crisis – Barack Obama has won the shutdown. His prize is a lame duck presidency
Posted on 10/16/2013 5:06:01 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
The shutdown is basically over and the President has won....
But there are caveats to that narrative. First, the Republicans aren't the only ones who ought to hang their heads in shame. It was the Democrat-controlled Senate that first rejected the House's bill and so sparked the crisis. It was the President who refused to talk to anyone about it (and went campaigning instead). It was the federal government even when in shutdown that behaved like a spoiled child...
what has Obama really won? He keeps his precious healthcare reform and he gets government open again but tomorrow morning he'll still have the same gridlocked political system that he had the night before. The shutdown is a rare example of him winning, but remember that this lame duck president has not only had a very simple (and, frankly, inoffensive) gun control bill killed in the Senate but was so spooked by bad poll numbers that he tried to dump responsibility for military action in Syria onto the Congress before quietly dropping the idea altogether. Any thought that the shutdown payoff will be that he can sail an immigration reform package comfortably through Congress is pure fantasy. This is a broken presidency living out its last few years either holding off Republican attacks or lazily cruising the country on some pointless, endless, fatuous campaign trail. Obama's administration is politically bankrupt.
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Americans know it was the Clown who was closing World War II and other memorials.
The Clown is getting a lot more blame than is being reported, and it is, I think, being imbued upon not only him but also his fascist party.
As long as the congress caves in to his demands, he will NEVER be a lame duck.
Sorry, but the second last word has a the second letter wrong. Should be an I. The word before that should be "flaming" as well.
There is one thing this “shutdown” accomplished and can never be reversed. The country now knows that Obama is a mean, ugly, vile man. He is a sick petulant narcissist and people are coming to understand just what that means.
the PUB establishment did nothing to tell the sheeple about this....they should have bought tons of air time....
anyway, I beginning not to care in the slightest anymore...I can't trust fellow Americans and even some freepers...
but they walk lock step....
so remember, when you think you're voting for a "good" rat or a "decent" rat or a "nice" rat there is no such thing....
do not elect rats no matter what...at least our guys put up a little resistance...
I wish Obama was a lame duck.
He has done more to promote the left’s influence on our nation than Clinton and LBJ combined.
That's why he's a lame duck. He tried to destroy the GOP. He can't be trusted (EVERYONE knows that now) so there will be no more negotiations with him.
By the way, here's what the President will say, "We must now come together and negotiate ...yada yada yada ..."
The MSM is doing all they can to keep their guy afloat but the boat is filling with water and sinking...
But we still have obama’s muslim death plan, disguised as the “Affordable Care Act”.
Obama got one major piece of legislation through to promote the left...O-care.
Since then he's been unable to advance much. We got a large cut in Gov't growth, we blocked gun control and cap and trade, we got the Bush cuts made permanent for 99% and the next debt limit will now still be in the news for the next couple months since the next deadline is 2 months away...not the year extension that Reid wanted.
Everybody knows Obama is failing bigtime in foreign affairs. In addition, Obamacare is not working and Obama has to figure out how to fund it since no one is signing up.
Of course the MSM is busy trying to make it seem like Obama is winning all fights....the opposite is true. He's very weak and dropping in polls.
Americans don't know any such thing. Most people, especially the low information voters, blame Republicans for the shutdown the sequestration before this, even though the Obama Administration orchestrated both crisis.
The Democrats have gone from "not letting a good crisis go to waste", to creating a crisis and setting Republicans up to take the fall for what the Democrats are responsible for and the Republicans and the American people are more then willing to lay down and let this Administration get away with EVERYTHING.
I don't know what it's going to take to wake folks up but if the American people don't pull their collective heads out of their collective behinds soon, we will have gone past the point of no return.
With this win he instantly Federalized 1/6th of the American economy and created a police state with IRS "enforcers." He and his Flying Monkeys in the Senate have nearly nullified the spending authority of the House. His SCOTUS toady John Roberts has given him the awesome power to unilaterally decide what Americans must buy.
Other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?
he won the purse strings away from the house, again. their only biggest main power.
he won no balls boner violating the hastert rule, again.
he won the argument that paying bills by raising debt ceiling is legitimate even tough no one called him for opposing the same argument as a senator under Bush.
given boner’s latest kabuki performance, he’s going to destroy them on immigration so hard, we’ll have to call boner “frenchy”.
Great leaders understand the concept of negotiating to a "win-win" solution. That is to say, they seek mutually beneficial solutions that allow all parties to prosper.
Small men, ideologues and low level purchasing managers see negotiations as a zero sum game where one party wins and the other party loses.
Obama is an ideologue and a small, vindictive man. He sees governing as a zero sum game, and America is a much worse place because of it.
You do realize that the MSM and the GOPe has made sure that the Conservatives and Tea Party are to blame.
Most Americans have no where near the awareness of the average Freeper.
Article premise is rediculous. Obama and his team now know the GOP is nothing but a door mat, and will go in for the kill by patriating 40 million mexicans and their friends, from which the country will never ever recover. We will be done, toast.
Its a good time for the states to go after the parks as theirs. It should have been done years ago.
LOL!!! Thanks I needed this. It’s going to be a bad night. Crooker-booker is going to be appointed in NJ tonight.
Just get the feeling that not burying dead soldiers, closing national parks and abusing veterans left an impression on people about Obama.
The only reason it’s that high is because of the the MSM.
I believe Obamacare will eventually kill itself, but in the meantime it is going to get expensive, and what will replace it.
Brace yourself for liberal polling to show obama enjoying a 15 point bounce from this “epic victory”. It will be lies of course but this will happen... bank on it. soros is writing checks tonight to ensure that it happens.
Single payer or a revolution.
The problem is that a majority of those Americans don’t give a shit. They are lefty voters who would vote for Obama types if he was rounding us up and putting us in camps.
Why should anyone talk about it? So what if it's 37%, 73%, or 3.7%. We're stuck with this asshat for the next three years unless you're of the precious "if we can just win the Senate in '14 he'll be impeached" fairytale crowd.
I hope all those park guards feel like crap tomorrow for how they treated the American public
The only statement in your post I'd argue with.
Actually, he got two major pieces of legislation through. The other was Porkulus -- which bloated expenditures by almost a $trillion in 2009. And, thanks to the 'Rat policy of governing by baseline budgeting and continuing resolutions, has inflated each subsequent year's expenditures by a $trillion + 7% compounded.
Not coincidentally, we've had $trillion annual deficits ever since.
29 Rpeublican ‘aye’ votes in the House already.
I intend to support anyone opposing Congressmen who voted against America.
Obama needed the (partial) closure of the federal government and the threat of fiscal Armageddon to get a few extra weeks of having his way. What will be the threat for immigration reform?
I agree. I don't see the point in even voting anymore. The fact that obama can get re-elected and Republicans selling us out makes me feel it is a lost cause. Quite frankly, I wish the country would break apart and we can jetison the deadwood states.
Most Americans are morons worthy only of contempt.
Not a chance, they got paid and EVERYONE will blame the Tea Party and Republicans.
Not as sanguine as you, I’m afraid.
He got Frank-Dodd thru, so now the government will “analyse” 90+% of credit card transactions.
He got a Food Bill thru that put local farms under tight gov’t regulation.
He got gays in the military, which will decimate recruiting and serve to force gay marriage into all 50 states.
He got women into combat billets to weaken the armed forces.
He got the EPA to tax carbon, necessary for life.
He has politicized every department of the exec branch, including Justice, State, Treasury, Interior, etc. and destroyed the rule of law by choosing which laws to enforce and granting waivers to friends.
Heck, even if I agreed with your premise, Obamacare is one heck of an assault on American freedom and the Constitution - a law that is written via onerous regulations after it was passed.
So, as noted above, I think we’ll have to agree to disagree.
Yeah, you just wait. Obama is not done yet.
That was the plan all along.
They will put private insurance out of business then the government will do us the “favor” of taking over the whole business.
If anyone is going to be active in 3rd party politics with the goal of making the Republic party the third party, please add me to your ping list.