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GOP Rep: Boehner Promised No Conference on Senate Immigration Bill
Breitbart ^ | 10/16/2013 | Mathew Boyle

Posted on 10/16/2013 6:16:27 PM PDT by amnestynone

Rep. Matt Salmon (R-AZ) said on Wednesday at the Heritage Foundation-hosted Conversations with Conservatives press event that House Speaker John Boehner has promised him that the Senate’s “Gang of Eight” immigration bill is dead in the House. “I very recently had a conversation with the Speaker and if immigration reform moves, it’s going to move piecemeal,” Salmon said in response to a question from Breitbart News. “And it will go over one bill at a time and if there is any kind of conference, it will be on specific bills we send over. It will not be on the Gang of Eight bill.” While Boehner’s spokesman Michael Steel has not immediately responded to confirm what Salmon said, if true it means the push for amnesty is dead.

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KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; cantor4amnesty; cantordreamact; dreamact; dreamers; hastertrule; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; immigration; laraza; mexico; ryan4amnesty
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If this is true I can forgive Boehner for everything. We still need to take out Graham at all cost.
1 posted on 10/16/2013 6:16:27 PM PDT by amnestynone
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To: amnestynone

This is even more important than the debt limit. Amnesty and citizenship for tens of millions of invaders means the Republic is dead forever. If it’s not already dead forever.


2 posted on 10/16/2013 6:19:20 PM PDT by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: amnestynone

Forgive Boehner? Uh, no.

The Senate wants the House to send over items pertaining to immigration so they tack the Amnesty clause to it.

SEND THE SENATE NOTHING PERTAINING TO IMMIGRATION. IT AIN’T BROKE, SO IT NEEDS NO FIXIN’.


3 posted on 10/16/2013 6:21:16 PM PDT by SatinDoll
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To: amnestynone
Unfortunately, Boner's promises are worth so much cow manure. We just have to hope that the House Republicans will stand fast, as they did earlier.


4 posted on 10/16/2013 6:22:38 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: amnestynone

But only as long as he triple-dog, pinky swears he won’t pull the football away this time, then I suppose, yeah, sure, we can trust him not to cave THIS time ....


5 posted on 10/16/2013 6:22:48 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Rand Paul’s immigration speech
03.19.13 | Hon Sen Rand Paul (KY)
Posted on 03/19/2013 7:04:07 AM PDT by Perdogg
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2998395/posts

...The Republican Party must embrace more legal immigration.

Unfortunately, like many of the major debates in Washington, immigration has become a stalemate-where both sides are imprisoned by their own rhetoric or attachment to sacred cows that prevent the possibility of a balanced solution.

Immigration Reform will not occur until Conservative Republicans, like myself, become part of the solution. I am here today to begin that conversation.

Let’s start that conversation by acknowledging we aren’t going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants.

If you wish to work, if you wish to live and work in America, then we will find a place for you...

This is where prudence, compassion and thrift all point us toward the same goal: bringing these workers out of the shadows and into being taxpaying members of society.

Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers.12 million more people assimilating into society. 12 million more people being productive contributors.

[but he’s not in favor of amnesty, snicker, definition of is is]


6 posted on 10/16/2013 6:24:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?? That sorry sack of sh!t is a liar!! He promised “No violation of the hastert rule” Have we all got Alzheimer here? what are you watching on tv right now?? The Demorats and RINOs ruining this country because Beohner was WEAK!!Boehner is a liar!! Dump him NOW!! or be dumped! What a crock!


7 posted on 10/16/2013 6:24:40 PM PDT by SADMILLIE (r)
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To: amnestynone

Blue-slip it then, Boehner.


8 posted on 10/16/2013 6:24:44 PM PDT by struggle
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To: All

I’ll believe it when I see it.


9 posted on 10/16/2013 6:26:13 PM PDT by Kolath
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To: amnestynone

Liar all! You have proven yourselves today. WE NO LONGER BELIEVE YOU!


10 posted on 10/16/2013 6:27:33 PM PDT by fuente (Liberty resides in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box and the cartridge box--Fredrick Douglas)
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To: amnestynone

“Boehner Promised” — the two words cannot go together and be reality. “Boehner Caved Again” it should read.


11 posted on 10/16/2013 6:27:51 PM PDT by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs have spoken: "It's Jebbie's turn!")
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To: amnestynone
...House Speaker John Boehner has promised...

Why does that phrase always make me check to see if my wallet is still in my left back pocket?
12 posted on 10/16/2013 6:30:27 PM PDT by posterchild
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To: SatinDoll

And matt Salmon says Boehner says he is not going to do that. If tha tis true that is the end of that.


13 posted on 10/16/2013 6:31:41 PM PDT by amnestynone (Lindsey Graham is feckless, duplicitous, treacherous, double dealing backstabbing Corksucker.)
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To: SatinDoll

Correctomundo! The DemonRats will pass ‘THE 15 MILLION NEW DEMOCRAT VOTERS ACT’ the same way they passed 0bamacare into law. The Senate took a House bill and gutted it and slapped a new title on it. Also, cheating, blackmail, bribery, lying, etc..


14 posted on 10/16/2013 6:31:45 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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To: posterchild

Why does that phrase always conjure up the image of Lucy, Charlie Brown, and a football?


15 posted on 10/16/2013 6:32:03 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: amnestynone
Don’t believe it! Cathy McMorris Rodgers, who is Boehner’s mini-me and protégé, had this to say on Univision a week ago:

Speaker John Boehner “over the last few weeks has continued to talk about the importance of the House moving forward on immigration reform,” McMorris Rodgers said, according to a transcript provided by Univision. “I believe that we have a window here between now and the end of the year and that this is a priority.” Rep. Cathy McMorris-Rodgers 10/7/13 Politico.com

16 posted on 10/16/2013 6:35:13 PM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: amnestynone

NO! NO! NO!

This is more trickery!

There must be no action on any bill piecemeal or otherwise because as it has been said countless times:

ANY BILL FROM THE HOUSE WILL BE GUTTED AND INSERTED WITH THE GANG OF 8 PROVISIONS AND THEN SENT BACK TO THE HOUSE FOR CONFERENCE ALLOWING ALL DEMS TO VOTE AND 17 RINOS TO PASS WHAT OBAMA WANTS!

Boehner just caved on the debt deal and ignored the Hastert Rule. He will do the same on the immigration deal.

Get it through your heads!

BOEHNER IS BOUGHT AND PAID FOR!


17 posted on 10/16/2013 6:42:26 PM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: Hostage
BOEHNER IS BOUGHT AND PAID FOR!

They ALL are.

18 posted on 10/16/2013 6:42:47 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: amnestynone; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; Liz; Clintonfatigued; Perdogg; ...
RE :”Rep. Matt Salmon (R-AZ) said on Wednesday at the Heritage Foundation-hosted Conversations with Conservatives press event that House Speaker John Boehner has promised him that the Senate’s “Gang of Eight” immigration bill is dead in the House. “I very recently had a conversation with the Speaker and if immigration reform moves, it’s going to move piecemeal,” Salmon said in response to a question from Breitbart News. “And it will go over one bill at a time and if there is any kind of conference, it will be on specific bills we send over. It will not be on the Gang of Eight bill.” While Boehner’s spokesman Michael Steel has not immediately responded to confirm what Salmon said, if true it means the push for amnesty is dead.”

Poor Bohner the goat kicked by everyone. Gets to own the surrender, all of them. Just like WWI and Germans and that poor sap sent out to sign the surrender and later murdered.

I actually think the above is true and I kind of did before this, and I am not known here as any Pollyanna.

Perdogg called this first, that the clock would run out and the Senate would get nothing they would accept

And maybe the shutdown fight (with the fail ) was a positive in this amnesty fight. Lost time and hurt feelings kill it.

19 posted on 10/16/2013 6:46:10 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: amnestynone

NOT A ******* INCH YOU **’ERS!


20 posted on 10/16/2013 6:48:37 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: fuente

TRUST IS EARNED and once lost... it is almost impossible to regain. FU boehner... I despise the very air that you breathe.


21 posted on 10/16/2013 6:50:30 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: SatinDoll

> “IT AIN’T BROKE, SO IT NEEDS NO FIXIN’.”

No, it’s broke alright but the fix that the dems and the RINOs have planned will give the ruling class a permanent voting bloc to win elections.

FIX IMMIGRATION WHEN CONSERVATIVES CONTROL THE HOUSE, THE SENATE, THE WHITE HOUSE AND THE SUPREME COURT!


22 posted on 10/16/2013 6:51:39 PM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: dfwgator

Not all... 18 in the Senate are not and about 70 in the House.


23 posted on 10/16/2013 6:51:41 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: amnestynone

We have been sold down the river.


24 posted on 10/16/2013 6:51:46 PM PDT by sport
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To: amnestynone

Was that before or after his 5th glass of Merlot? He’s had a rough day, falling down is hard to do...


25 posted on 10/16/2013 6:52:33 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SADMILLIE

your speaking the truth


26 posted on 10/16/2013 7:05:42 PM PDT by ncalburt ( Amnesty media out in full force ing)
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To: amnestynone

You believe him? He said he would abide by the Hastert Rule. Did he? Will he? The Senate will look at him cross eyed, he’ll start crying and amnesty will become the law of the land.

I don’t trust backstabbing liars. I will never trust Boehner again.


27 posted on 10/16/2013 7:10:59 PM PDT by Waryone
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To: Hostage

that is why he placed there after the Hammer resigned.

he is a K Street front man so is Ryan owned by Adelson and Cantor and Kennedy and Goodlatte ........

Bonehead has the largest number of ex aides now working on K street in DC .
why do you think the libs in DC Obama media have never touched him or Mitchy Judas .


28 posted on 10/16/2013 7:11:15 PM PDT by ncalburt ( Amnesty media out in full force ing)
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To: amnestynone

I’m pretty sure a couple of weeks ago he said he wouldn’t break the Hastert Rule. So much for that. The GOP (like the Dems) is full of self serving liars.


29 posted on 10/16/2013 7:13:08 PM PDT by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: sickoflibs

Then you should agree that Boehner has to go and soon!


30 posted on 10/16/2013 7:14:57 PM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

Yep! That will be the final nail in the coffin.


31 posted on 10/16/2013 7:19:54 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: ncalburt

In early 2011 the new elected freshman tea party members were watchful and observant but not informed completely about what and who really controls DC (I grew up there in DC proper and on Virginia side, Alexandria).

I think the tea party members are much more aware and hip now to how the game is played. I am proud of the true tea party conservatives in Congress.

What I am concerned about is the money. There has got to be a large grassroots fund to sustain our tea party members in Congress, to shield them against the corrupt influence of K Street.

Money is corrupting by its nature but is crucial in wars. Pray for wise and seasoned money managers to forego greed, and back out tea party republicans with everything they’ve got.


32 posted on 10/16/2013 7:26:22 PM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: Hostage
RE :Then you should agree that Boehner has to go and soon!”

That's a bit off topic but I appreciate it.
Yes but...
There is a little problem with doing that.
Not one GOP house member is willing to take his job.
Too safe and easy to stay where they are,

> No one will take Boners job,call your favorite pet house hero and ask him to run against him as speaker, I dare you. He will never return the call.
72 posted on Saturday, December 22, 2012 3:02:20 PM by sickoflibs (Dems know how to win. Rs know how to whine.)

Get on the phone and call your favorite House member to run as Speaker and tell us what he said,
26 posted on Monday, December 24, 2012 1:58:08 AM by sickoflibs

Get someone to run against Bohner, its that simple.
52 posted on Tuesday, January 01, 2013 2:02:18 AM by sickoflibs

You should challenge them (your favorite house members) to oppose him as Speaker by running for it themselves now , this losing and then scape-goating whining stuff is long past old.
49 posted on Tuesday, January 01, 2013 1:46:45 AM by sickoflibs

33 posted on 10/16/2013 7:31:59 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: Hostage

Watch, Bohner wont be challenged.


34 posted on 10/16/2013 7:37:18 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: Hostage
RE :”Then you should agree that Boehner has to go and soon!”

Actually I was just mentioning that on another thread when you pinged me, see see #142

35 posted on 10/16/2013 7:43:55 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: sickoflibs

I will watch but I won’t take your side of the bet.

I think Boehner’s betrayal of conservatives with his violation of the Hastert Rule has open a lot of eyes. Now we may see some tea party leadership emerge whereas before Boehner was ‘promising’ he would stick by the Hastert Rule.

Boehner’s promise fits more with your single bullet analogy. I don’t believe constituents of tea party conservatives are going to take this lying down.


36 posted on 10/16/2013 7:53:25 PM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: Hostage
RE :”I think Boehner’s betrayal of conservatives with his violation of the Hastert Rule has open a lot of eyes. Now we may see some tea party leadership emerge whereas before Boehner was ‘promising’ he would stick by the Hastert Rule.”

Nope, they wont challenge him at least not in the next 14 months.

Not one wants his job, That would take a real Braveheart and there is none in GOP brave enough to be Speaker.
His job is to be the the goat. They all want him to do that while they file their safe votes.

It was leaked that he warned his caucus last week that he would increase the debt limit with or without them to avoid a default, ie to avoid him getting blamed.

I documented the final stage of this drama here Tuesday night.

Boehner's Shutdown End-game play (you won't like it) 10/15/2013

37 posted on 10/16/2013 8:02:47 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
This is even more important than the debt limit.

Agreed. The debt limit bill is a blip and it will have to be re-visited again in a couple months anyway.

Immigration and O-Care are the real issues and Obama is doing poorly on both fronts.

38 posted on 10/16/2013 8:07:11 PM PDT by what's up
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To: sickoflibs

I disagree. Now it IS different.

There is such a thing in trial law called shifting the burden of proof. The burden has now definitely shifted to those who would defend Boehner.

Before todays’s cave it was NOT possible for a conservative member to stand on principle and challenge Boehner. There was no concrete evidence that Boehner would go back on his word and betray the base. There was only rumor and speculation about Boehner. And in Washington everything or speculated needs verifying.

But now there is proof.

What that means is that an interested conservative member can now call benefactors and donors for funds to put into a campaign to oust Boehner.

You seem to think on an emotional or character plane.

I think on the financial and investment plane.

Boehner sold out, simple. And now he will receive favorable press treatment like McCain. He will be in the protected category.

You heard Reid last night and this morning about how ‘disappointed’ he was with John Boehner. That was a message that Boehner’s skeletons in his closet would be revealed for all to see.

Boehner has to go and I am sure there are many congressional members and staff members who are now working for his removal as Speaker.


39 posted on 10/16/2013 8:26:08 PM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: Hostage
RE :”Boehner has to go and I am sure there are many congressional members and staff members who are now working for his removal as Speaker.”

Not happening. Not at all.

Wishing ain't making. Those reasons dont counter the fact that none of those House Tea Party fwightened wabbits are willing to take his job.

WE need leaders not mice.

I showed you how I was a lone voice here calling for them to challenge him and not one would.

40 posted on 10/16/2013 8:33:14 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: Hostage

I do like talking to you. You are civil and honest in your opinions.


41 posted on 10/16/2013 8:34:09 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: amnestynone

They also promised us that Obamacare was dead.


42 posted on 10/16/2013 8:41:01 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: Hostage

My guess is that he plans on resigning at the end of this congress ~ 14 months from now,

But who knows ?


43 posted on 10/16/2013 8:42:15 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: sickoflibs

> “I showed you how I was a lone voice here calling for them to challenge him and not one would.”

You were expressing a desire for a challenge BEFORE there was proof positive of his true nature.

Similarly, any conservative member would not risk launching a crusade to remove Boehner BEFORE there was proof positive.

Just try using your logic in a court of law where you would advocate a conclusion based on hearsay and rumor. You would lose you case. To win a case there must be incontrovertible proof.

Now there is no doubt about the duplicitous character of John Boehner.

So I expect there are now members who are planning to remove him.


44 posted on 10/16/2013 9:13:07 PM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: Cicero
Not worth a plugged nickel!

Boehner photo boehner-nickel.jpg

45 posted on 10/16/2013 9:15:30 PM PDT by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: amnestynone

Boehnor said he would not violate the Hastert rule and look what happened.


46 posted on 10/16/2013 9:21:36 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Hostage; Impy; BillyBoy
RE :”Similarly, any conservative member would not risk launching a crusade to remove Boehner BEFORE there was proof positive.

Not true .

Jan 2013 Lou Gomert TX and a few other ‘Tea party conservatives’ in House made symbolic votes against Bohner for people who were not even in house and obviously not running.

It was the typical symbolic BS that cements our future as a lib hell.

They already dissed Bohner by the symbolic vote against him for no-one.
So they might as well have done it real and run against him.
But no, they were too cowardly to apply for that job.

47 posted on 10/16/2013 9:24:04 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: sickoflibs
just Blue-Skying:

How about Ted Cruz challenging Boehner as Speaker? Unlike members of the Tea Party Caucus, Cruz has five years to go before facing the electorate. He can afford to take unpopular positions, to "look bad", as you say. He need not play the 'goat'. Instead of being one of only two true conservatives in the Senate, he will have a nucleus of a dozen rock solid patriots surrounding him in the House. It will take years, or a decade, to attain the Senate seniority necessary to be effective in the Senate. As House Speaker with a six-year tenure, Cruz could be effective overnight.

What do you think?

48 posted on 10/16/2013 9:24:15 PM PDT by Praxeologue
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To: Kennard
RE :”How about Ted Cruz challenging Boehner as Speaker?
....What do you think? “

Already brought up that he should do that (challenging Boehner as Speaker ) in a comment here at least once, got negative replies.

He won't.

That would bring GOP fantasies back down to earth..

I been posting here for years: its time for results long past tired of excuses.

49 posted on 10/16/2013 9:35:32 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: Kennard

Save


50 posted on 10/16/2013 10:00:52 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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