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The Conservative War on the GOP
The Atlantic ^ | Oct 17 2013 | Molly Ball

Posted on 10/17/2013 4:54:44 AM PDT by xzins

On his radio show recently, Glenn Beck urged his listeners to “defund the GOP.” Sarah Palin has threatened to leave the Republican Party; Rush Limbaugh calls it “irrelevant.” The Senate Conservatives Fund has targeted mainly incumbent Republican senators for defeat. Erick Erickson, one of the right’s most prominent commentators, wonders if what's coming is “a real third party movement that will fully divide the Republican Party.”

Conservatives have declared war on the GOP.

Tired of feeling taken for granted by a party that alternately panders to them and sells them down the river, in their view, Tea Partiers and others on the right are in revolt. The Republican Party itself is increasingly the focus of their anger, particularly after Wednesday's deal to reopen the government, which many on the right opposed.

"Conservatives are either going to split from the GOP or stay home. They'll first expend energy in primaries, but if unsuccessful, they'll bolt."

Erickson, a former Republican elected official in Georgia... “I think the GOP is already splitting,” he said, with grassroots activists feeling “played” by elected officials’ unfulfilled promises to defeat Obamacare.

Steve Deace, an Iowa-based talk-radio host, said his audience has never been angrier. “They’re tired of electing a bunch of Republicans who care more about what the media thinks about them than what the people who elected them think,” he told me. “Why do I care whether John Boehner or Nancy Pelosi is the speaker of the House? Why do I care whether Harry Reid or ‘Ditch’ McConnell is the Senate majority leader? What changes? Nothing changes.”

Sean Hannity, on his radio show on Monday, said he’d previously opposed a third party, but “I’m not so sure anymore. It may be time for a new conservative party in America. I’m sick of these guys.”

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
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1 posted on 10/17/2013 4:54:44 AM PDT by xzins
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From the article: Some establishmentarians worry the Tea Partiers are already blithely driving the GOP into the ground. “I don’t think they care about the party. I think they care about issues and philosophies,” said Tom Davis, a former congressman from Virginia and onetime chair of the National Republican Congressional Committee.

Sure we care about our principles. Sorry you don't have any.

But, we also care about a nation that has an out of control credit card and an out of control treasury printing press that is ruining the nation. We care about a takeover of the best healthcare system in the world that's been replaced with one they'd be proud of in Zimbabwe. We care about a snooping NSA, a series of murders in Fast and Furious, a lying campaign after Benghazi, an IRS that targets the political enemies of liberals, and a president who'll spend millions on vacation but not pay for the burials of our returning war heroes.

The GOP is simply in this to be the 2nd string, to get 2nd stringer pay, because that's still a lot of power of money.

The GOP does NOT care about America. At all.

2 posted on 10/17/2013 4:55:05 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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3 posted on 10/17/2013 4:55:51 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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Isn’t Tom Davis one of these “No Labels” guys?

No thanks, Tom.

Every dog has his day, but the sun don’t shine on the same dog’s ass all the time.


4 posted on 10/17/2013 4:58:01 AM PDT by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: Diogenesis

The republican establishment is not the “stupid party”. They are doing exactly as they wish.

It is WE, who keep letting Lucy hold the football, who are stupid. We are the “stupid constituency”.


5 posted on 10/17/2013 4:58:53 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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The GOPe, is just another wing of the Democratic Party.


6 posted on 10/17/2013 5:00:05 AM PDT by dfwgator
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I’m pretty sure that 2014 will be a good year for the Democrats. And what difference does it make anyway?


7 posted on 10/17/2013 5:01:12 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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The GOPe, is just another wing of the Democratic Party.

Amen! And through power, position, and money they control the GOP.

The chances of it ever again being a home for conservatives is remote.

8 posted on 10/17/2013 5:02:05 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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In the post SHTF republic political parties should be outlawed.

A great part of our downfall stems from the fact that most elected representatives and most appointed bureaucrats place the interests and success of their political party far above their fealty to the nation and loyalty to the Constitution.


9 posted on 10/17/2013 5:02:53 AM PDT by Iron Munro (When a killer screams 'Allahu Akbar' you don't need to be mystified about a motive.)
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I’m done done with the GOP, and I’m done with lobbyists. I sent the NFIB representative packing the other day. they haven’t accomplished much of note lately, except for getting my money for years. That’s over.


10 posted on 10/17/2013 5:03:29 AM PDT by Daveinyork (IER)
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For obvious reasons a 3rd party attempt just wont work. Staying the course with the Tea Party will be more effective.

We have about 60-80 Tea Party folks in congress now..counting both houses. We just need to keep gaining ground. Primaries and especially off yr elections will be a key factor. Dont forget local elections too.


11 posted on 10/17/2013 5:03:57 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To a degree you are right. But I say that the most representatives place a higher priority on getting all the perks from the Lobbyists......I wish they did a survey on the net worth of politicians before and after they went to DC.


12 posted on 10/17/2013 5:04:56 AM PDT by dfwgator
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Look, nothing would please the Left more than to see the Right split into two easily defeatable parties. The answer is to continue to do what we’re doing. Take over the establishment party, seat by seat, until we are the dominant wing. It may take more than a few election cycles but forming a third party would take decades. Decades we don’t have if we want to save the republic.


13 posted on 10/17/2013 5:06:23 AM PDT by MNnice
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There has been a distributed decision to let America
be destroyed this way.

When it was brought up that Romney had TANKED Massachusetts
and its Constitution (the oldest in the USA), and that
RomneyCARE was causing increased rates, fewer doctors,
longer waits, and more illegals everywhere,
many in FR attacked the messenger.

Worse, Romney was then made the head of the GOP,
and vacillated weakly until ... the carpetbagger gave up,
just nine minutes after grabbing all the money with Rove.


14 posted on 10/17/2013 5:07:26 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: sauropod
Isn’t Tom Davis one of these “No Labels” guys?

People need to recognize the danger that bunch presents.

They play themselves off as innocent moderates just trying to help the country but their stated goals give the president dictatorial powers and turn congress into a parliament.
15 posted on 10/17/2013 5:07:48 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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Yeah, I’m done with establishment GOP RINOs. Don’t waste my time or yours looking for my support. Don’t bother trying to lie to me and claim you are not when you so clearly are - I will be checking voting records and public statements you’ve made, not just recent ones either.


16 posted on 10/17/2013 5:08:17 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: xzins

If Conservatives are so mad at the GOP-e why no criticism of Boehner’s cave in? We fought the good fight is the best they can come up with?


17 posted on 10/17/2013 5:09:54 AM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: ClearCase_guy; Jim Robinson

72 to 122

and

18 to 28

Those are the numbers to remember. Those are the representatives and then the senators who voted against the debt limit increase. And we don’t know how many of the 18 and of the 72 voted for it only to give themselves political cover.

So, 18 & 72 - only 90 in all the Congress from both houses of the Congress are possibly conservative. 90 out of 535. That is 16.8%.

What that means is that we would be better off fighting a guerilla war rather than a frontal assault.


18 posted on 10/17/2013 5:10:53 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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Molly,

Want to know who started this war?

We'll see who ends it.

19 posted on 10/17/2013 5:11:50 AM PDT by McGruff (Conservatives are sure catching a lot of flak lately. Wonder why?)
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To: MNnice
Part of doing it your way is to say that we're going to be the thinking minority for awhile, maybe able to hold on to the HOR. To do that, we have to accept those with libertarian views and accept that we'd rather have a Dem win than have a RINO doing their sabotage thing.

What's the main thing separating us from Libertarians? Abortion. If it's a issue that stays with the states, we can coexist on that issue.

20 posted on 10/17/2013 5:12:36 AM PDT by grania
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