Skip to comments.Tea party activists call bipartisan deal a capitulation, say they are unbowed
Posted on 10/17/2013 7:22:59 AM PDT by don-o
In Tennessee, activists said they have seen a surge of enthusiasm for an effort to eject Alexander from office.
This has energized people, said Ben Cunningham, president of the Nashville Tea Party. This confirmed our perception that we are going to have to replace people in Congress who talk conservative and talk and talk and talk and do nothing.
Cunningham said activists focus on upcoming elections underscores how the tea party has transformed itself since it first emerged in 2009.
We have gone from a protest movement to a movement about the nuts and bolts of elections, he said.
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Next up...the fat bastard Governor in NJ..
Either the Tea Party gets elected as the majority in both the Senate and House in 2014 - or this country is going to get smashed by the liberals, socialists, and illegals that want nothing but total annihilation of the Republic!
My feelings exactly.. Do we have time to get this done at the ballot box
GOP fights quite well with conservatives but surrenders quite well with liberals. Time for a new Party.
The Tea Party needs to recruit new people and be open to new ideas to survive and possibly grow. I do admire the Tea Party people but they do not come off as accepting new people or ideas. Young people want this,
The GOP civil war has been a long time coming. What’s the point of the GOP winning the house and senate next year when we know we’ll get the same bunch of RINO do-nothing capitulators. At this point I’m actually hoping the Dems get both the house and senate.
They need to enumerate what the effects of capitulation will be to the American people.
-Higher insurance premiums
-Reduction in healthcare service
-Higher rates of inflation
-Higher loss of jobs
-A reduction in US credit worthiness
-Accelerated loss of US reserve currency status.
All of these impoverish more Americans while benefitting politicians with greater levels of public dependency upon government handouts.
Americans are being turned into debt-slaves.
TEA Party has been successfully marginalized, ridiculed and mocked into oblivion by the entire Political/Media/Entertainment complex, including those who we’ve supported. The betrayal of the Republic is complete. Welcome to the new “Social Democracy” that is the United States. Our sole purpose in life is to shut up and work for the benefit of others then die in misery.
They fight like hell against Conservatives because the MSM acts as their cheerleaders when they attack their base.
The MSM turns against them when they utter so much as a peep against the left, so they run and hide from those battles.
Prepare for twenty years in the wilderness as we build a REAL opposition party and consign the GOP to the dustbin of history.
We need a new name “Tea Party” is soo 2000’s
We need something for 2010’s.
Do we have a choice?
Raise the pitchforks and light the torches...
You must be talking about a different Tea Party than I’m dealing with.
> Either the Tea Party gets elected as the majority in both the Senate and House in 2014 - or this country is going to get smashed by the liberals, socialists, and illegals that want nothing but total annihilation of the Republic!
Why does this sound more and more like Star Wars everyday?
Thanks newbie, because you wouldn’t dare get off your ass and actually get conservatives elected in the primaries. It’s just much easier to let it burn than fight.
That's exactly it. I'm puzzled at the complete animosity at those who scoff at the very idea of 3rd party. It's like oil drilling -- the libs all went nuts because "it will take TOO LONG!" and this was their excuse (notice I didn't say 'reason') for not doing it?? As if waiting would help? I'm going to have to come to terms with living in a socialist country, but I'd like to be able to say I helped start something positive for my kids and future grandkids.
> You must be talking about a different Tea Party than Im dealing with.
I agree. They are even more active than ever. Many new alliances with other groups are forming including minority groups who see through 0’s racial division manipulation tactics.
And why should I be suckered into supporting a 3rd party when you wouldn’t lift one finger and get off your ass to put in the work to make it happen?
There was a “deal” on the government shutdown and debt ceiling?
Who knew that “kicking the can down the road” was still a viable political option?
I was of the notion that the road is pretty much a dead-end, and the barricade was fast coming up. And the acceleration is increasing at almost exponential rates.
I am looking forward to the balkanization of that territory once known as “the United States of America”. Then perhaps some of us may find a country to which we may once again pledge our allegiance and live in relative liberty.
Find a meeting in your area and GO TO A MEETING!!
> The Tea Party needs to recruit new people and be open to new ideas to survive and possibly grow. I do admire the Tea Party people but they do not come off as accepting new people or ideas. Young people want this
I have seen and met quite a few young people that are constitutionalists that will be running for office later in their lives. I’ve been very impressed by them and even more so by their parents who led them down the right path in life
The opportunity is there. Form a group, make a plan, work the plan, execute the plan, and make it happen. Talk is cheap.
People here at FR who want this and are sincere and not just drama queens are going to have to put some skin in the game before people like me are going to sign on. Not just talk or fist pumping.
Agreed, so why should we be part of a Party that is so gutless and side with the Democrats? They are like the Loyalists during the American Revolution.
What the heck are talking about?
Wrong website. Try sumersoldier.com or sunshinepatriot.org
I say time for third-party with some reluctance. It WILL give the Democrats a period of unchallenged hegemony. But it is clear we cannot work within the existing GOP without being continually sabotaged. Better to start working for a solution in the distant future than to continually play Charlie Brown and the Football.
Eventually their hegemony WILL come to an end. As it did for the Liberals in Canada.
Damn the torpedoes, Full Speed Ahead!
Lets do some quick math:
Current revenues: $2.4T or $200B a month
Debt ceiling was raised: $1.0T and will get us to Feb 7 (4 months)
So, the debt will increase $1T / 4 mos at a rate of $250B a month
With this they are admitting that they will spend $200B in revenues and $250B in debt for a total of $450B a month
$450B * 12 mos = $5.4T annually!
The worst budget in history was at $4.0T!
That is a 35% increase in spending!
I am going with The Constitution Party.
How dare you! As a Tea Party participant, I worked to get a Tea Party conservative elected to Congress.
A third party? You want it right? What are you going to do to make it happen? I hear all the talk here, but never see the action. Each state has it’s rules about registering a 3rd party.
Get out and make it happen. Show us you’re serious about it.
To tell me what I need to do or argue with me us NOT going to bring meinto the party! Appealing to them is the way.
Great. I’m proud of you. I myself infiltrated the GOP in my state 12 years ago and continue to work within it. This is why I don’t do third parties. Why should I when I’ve got primaries with a vehicle already set up?
You know, you’re right. My rant was a result of my disgust with the cave-in witnessed yesterday. No more excuses. Time for me to get up off my SkiKnee arse and do something besides whining. Thank you.
You know the last time they were in charge Obamacare was passed into law right?
The only threat it needs to pose, for starters, is losses to the GOP. The third party needn't be viable in its own right to change the behavior of the existing parties, it just needs to siphon off a certain number of supporters.
You can bet there will be all sorts of whining, crying, wailing and name calling from the party faithful. Screw 'em. Pyaback is a bitch.
maybe Lucas saw the writing on the wall - and capitalized on it...??? ...and sold out to Disney!
In my opinion, here’s what the TP needs to do:
1. No third party. Form a caucus within the party, structure and market it as such. You literally could make it a party within a party and do things like it’s own caucuses, conventions, fundraising, candidates, brand - you name it.
2. Mirror the GOPe structure and once you have the majority - take over the GOP. It can be done and has been done. Learn the mechanics, the angles, the strategy, gather the forces, execute the plan.
3. Work at the federal level, but don’t forget the state level. Voter ID, crushing the unions, welfare reform - these are ways to beat the Dems without ever having to go to Washington.
4. Keep the issue advocacy wing, but again realize that the fruits will bear more at the state level.
5. Always, always, always work to understand the mechanics of the system and exploit it to your advantage.
6. Keep the focus on candidates and majorities first, issue advocacy second, or rather supporting.
Young people also want gay marriage and free stuff.
I’ve seen what the GOP does to fresh new people with conservative values both as they are running for office and after they are in office. The GOP left me and I will not be back.
Great! If it helps, I started out getting active - at other places on the net then right here. Then I got into an issue advocacy group. Then I helped stop county zoning in my county, then Smart Growth in the state. They were all shoestring efforts.
Then I got involved in the county GOP. Better word is infiltrated. Ran a county supervisor campaign. Then more and advised. Then advised state level campaigns, then ran them. Then field staff for congressional campaigns. Now I’m an experienced operative and people seek my opinion. And I give it!
As I went on I networked like hell with other conservative operatives and activists. Now I’m well networked and have a measure of influence in my corner of the state. Nothing magical, just hard work, think for myself, and willingness to put myself out there. Not made much money off of it and sure ain’t rich.
Listening to the Clown ramble now....he is the worst.
And what do you think is going to happen with a 3rd party? It will be worse. If you can’t stomach the intraparty battles in the GOP, you won’t last long in the 3rd party movement.
Speaking of replacing the RINOS like McConnel, I noticed this from Politico:
. . . “The legislation also includes a McConnell-written proposal that would allow Congress to disapprove of the debt-ceiling increase. Lawmakers will formally vote on rejecting the bump of the borrowing limit - if it passed, it could be vetoed by Obama.”
Nothing like handing Obama the power of the purse.
Allow me to fix that article title:
Tea party activists call
bipartisan unipartisan deal a capitulation, say they are unbowed
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