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Jim DeMint: We Won't Back Down on ObamaCare
wsj.com ^ | October 17, 2013 | Jim DeMint

Posted on 10/17/2013 11:19:12 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

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1 posted on 10/17/2013 11:19:12 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

...no one believes you Mr Demint.

Not the liberals.
Not the media.
Not the people who vote for you.


2 posted on 10/17/2013 11:22:45 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Ummmm... Seems to me they already did.... It’s just talk now.


3 posted on 10/17/2013 11:29:39 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Tzimisce

Jim De Mint is not holding elected office. He is with the Heritage Foundation which has been fighting the good fight against Obamacare.


4 posted on 10/17/2013 11:33:38 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Lord, forgive us our sins and bring us to everlasting life.)
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To: Tzimisce
Not the people who vote for you.

Vote? Um, I think the party you want to ring up is Tim Scott. Tim on the CR last 25 September. Check.

Jim Demint retired from the Senate and now heads the Heritage Foundation, where he's trying to do his best to get the word out. I suggest you get behind him.

5 posted on 10/17/2013 11:50:18 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Tailgunner Joe

And he means it...He won’t back down!.-———Thank goodness he won’t back down!———He is right where we need him!

I am more encouraged than I have been in a long time!
Thank you Jim , Heritage, Ted, Mike and all who won’ t back down.


6 posted on 10/17/2013 11:50:42 PM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: Guenevere

I agree with you wholeheartedly. Go Jim, Mike,Ted and WE THE PEOPLE!


7 posted on 10/17/2013 11:55:48 PM PDT by nurse-rn
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Keep up the fight Mr DeMint.

“There’s a third reason not to stop fighting. Forget the consultants, the pundits and the pollsters; good policy is good politics. If the Republicans had not fought on ObamaCare, the compromise would have been over the budget sequester. Instead, they have retained the sequester and for the past three months ObamaCare and its failings have been front and center in the national debate. Its disastrous launch was spotlighted by our defund struggle, not overshadowed, as some contend. With a revived and engaged electorate, ObamaCare will now be the issue for the next few years.”


8 posted on 10/17/2013 11:58:58 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Jim, you already did.


9 posted on 10/18/2013 12:09:49 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Occupy the DC Mall - take back the monuments)
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To: upchuck

DeMint!


10 posted on 10/18/2013 1:14:01 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: 1035rep

“With a revived and engaged electorate, ObamaCare will now be the issue for the next few years.”

As the ObamaCare “tax” is implemented, I hope this is an issue that comes back to haunt the Dems. However, after reading about the role subsidies play, I suspect that they’ve done their homework and 50.1% of people will end up with “free healthcare” (enough to guarantee a permanent majority at the polls). They’ve been cleaning the Repubs’ clocks when it comes to elections over the last few years, and with their media saturating ignorant people 24/7 they will continue to do so.


11 posted on 10/18/2013 1:16:22 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Jim: Don't back down.
When you get in a bad mood, play Tom Pettys song:
"I won't back down."
ZERO DON'TCARE is one bad deal for the country.
It has already affected our economy and will only get worse.
Just a thought here. As I hear some of the news about the "SHUT DOWN". ZERO now is going to use the shut down as an excuse as the reason the economy is going down the tubes.
12 posted on 10/18/2013 1:57:26 AM PDT by DeaconRed (The TEA PARTY is my new party. Juan Mclaim and his Republican party can kiss my Grits.)
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To: kearnyirish2
What elections are you referring to? Over the last few years would include 2010. Surely you're not referring to that election. Colorado recalls? I think not.

"50.1% of people will end up with “free healthcare”

Better go tell the people over at DU and KOS because they can't find anyone who will get it for free. They're all complaining about losing their plans and how much the deductibles are.

Amidst all the blather about Republicans going over the cliff and taking the world with them, a tantalizing bit of truth was spoken on today's Morning Joe. Doomsaying notwithstanding, the GOP is actually positioned to do OK in 2014." "Making the comment particularly surprising was its source: Barack Obama's former senior adviser himself—David Axelrod."

 Then there is liberal Nate Silver who thinks we have a good chance of taking the Senate in 2014.

A race-by-race analysis of the Senate, in fact, suggests that Republicans might now be close to even-money to win control of the chamber after next year’s elections. Our best guess, after assigning probabilities of the likelihood of a G.O.P. pickup in each state, is that Republicans will end up with somewhere between 50 and 51 Senate seats after 2014, putting them right on the threshold of a majority.

I guess we'll have to wait and see but I feel pretty good about 2014.

13 posted on 10/18/2013 2:15:46 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: 1035rep

“What elections are you referring to? Over the last few years would include 2010. Surely you’re not referring to that election.”

Has anything convinced you that the Dems lost the House? It certainly doesn’t seem that way. Obama’s re-election showed just how desperate and ignorant voters are, and I don’t see Republicans doing anything constructive about that. They are talking at graduate school levels to voters with 8th grade diplomas.

“Better go tell the people over at DU and KOS because they can’t find anyone who will get it for free. They’re all complaining about losing their plans and how much the deductibles are.”

I’d imagine they are in income levels above $30K. All of those striking fast-food workers that want a raise? They aren’t on those websites, they aren’t on welfare/Medicaid, and they’re all going to get free health care from us.

“I guess we’ll have to wait and see but I feel pretty good about 2014.”

If people see the true impact of ObamaCare by election time, then the Repubs should do well; if not, then the media will continue convincing them things are great (despite their individual miseries).


14 posted on 10/18/2013 3:33:43 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: antceecee

I certainly have immense respect for DeMint; however, he could have more of an impact on the front lines (in Congress) rather than from his back row cushy chair at Heritage. Alas, DeMint chose the chair...

We need front line soldiers - not back row cheerleaders preaching to the choir!


15 posted on 10/18/2013 3:41:34 AM PDT by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: 1035rep
tell the people over at DU and KOS because they can't find anyone who will get it for free. They're all complaining about losing their plans and how much the deductibles are.

LOL! They deserve to feel the pain of this tyrannical that they voted for.

16 posted on 10/18/2013 3:46:38 AM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: newfreep

DiMint’s successor, Tim Scott, backed the shutdown to the end.

(Starting a meme. See my tag. Please make it yours.)


17 posted on 10/18/2013 4:00:58 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (HELL, NO!)
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To: 1035rep

I’m curious, what exactly do you see happening if indeed the Republicans “take” the Senate in 2014?

They aren’t going to get 60 seats. I think we can all agree there.

I don’t see anything changing at this point. Sure, there’s going to be a lot of rhetoric to fire up the base (on both sides) but for the Republicans the rhetorical speech will be (and already is) quite empty. I do not see an end game here that rids the nation of Obamacare. All this talk of “fighting” seems to me to be coming from people who simply refuse to accept the fact that it’s over.

Convince me I’m wrong. I’m absolutely willing to hear of a solid plan; not some empty rhetoric though along the likes of “we’re continuing the fight”. Because stuff like that, to me, just sounds like trying to get various campaigns off the ground (ie donations).


18 posted on 10/18/2013 4:07:09 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: newfreep

DeMint was my Senator. I believe he believes he can reach more people from The Heritage Foundation than he could from an SC. Senate seat. You should read his book about what he went through as a businessman turned junior senator and from his own party. It will let you in on what any conservative newby must go through when they try to fight the good fight.


19 posted on 10/18/2013 4:14:07 AM PDT by snippy_about_it
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Riiiiiiight..And they just did what on Wednesday?


20 posted on 10/18/2013 4:24:35 AM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: Tzimisce
????
Frm. Sen. DeMint, Hasn't been in the Senate for over an year or more...so much for
your accuracy ..ahem..comments, please update your data base.. :-P

21 posted on 10/18/2013 4:33:25 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Jim DeMint in the senate was a voice for sanity and justice...now he speaks for the Heritage group....he let us down.


22 posted on 10/18/2013 4:34:00 AM PDT by kenmcg (scapegoat)
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To: kenmcg

Wow.......Reading through these posts I see the naysayers are out full force!

Wonder if this how Cruz and Lee feel......from their own Party.

Negativity and giving up will get us nowhere.

We must go forward together.

Press on, Jim Demint!


23 posted on 10/18/2013 4:47:23 AM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: antceecee

He is the best steward of Conservative money. Heritage is a good conservative investment

Lots of bang for the buck


24 posted on 10/18/2013 4:49:52 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Rhetorical question...Where is he?

Bout time.

How about tour with Palin?

Ink is one thing, mixing it up in the streets with YouTube, other social media, MSM cameras and such is another.

Time to be a very loud fly in the ointment...or rather fly on 0bummer’s Kobe beef.


25 posted on 10/18/2013 5:24:38 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (“Life is hard, but it’s harder when you’re stupid.” John Wayne)
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26 posted on 10/18/2013 5:33:59 AM PDT by ex-Texan (The Time to "Wake Up" is Over !)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

While this all infuriates me to no end, I think it’s hilarous that the 20 somethings, and the over 60’s are getting hit the hardest. I feel sorry for my sons,all in their 20’s. They didn’t vote for the idiot, but a whole lot of them did, so it’s just desserts. Hopefully, after the 2014 election, when a whole lot of Dem’s & Rinos are voted out of office by conservatives, we can get the thing repealed.


27 posted on 10/18/2013 5:35:14 AM PDT by southernindymom
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28 posted on 10/18/2013 5:40:58 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: FourtySeven

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29 posted on 10/18/2013 5:43:40 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Jim DeMint: We Won't Back Down on ObamaCare

Sure you will....just like on everything else! Who are you kidding, Jim??

30 posted on 10/18/2013 5:50:37 AM PDT by LUV W (All my heroes wear camos! Thank you David, Michael, Chris Txradioguy, JJ, CMS, & ALL of you heroes!)
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To: Guenevere

Jim DeMint......I think you guys should renew the campaign to sign & endorse the “Lee/Cruz” “Don’t Fund Obamacare” Petition. It currently holds about 2,097,000 signatures. With the continued highlighting on the total failure of Obamacare, i believe you now have the ability and opportunity to “really” focus the American on this Obama fiasco that will, if not stopped, destroy jobs and the American economy, itself.

WWW.DONTFUNDOBAMACARE.COM, Sign it today!!!


31 posted on 10/18/2013 5:52:11 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: 1035rep

You have to consider the probable scenario, the left goes around moaning that they expect to lose control of both houses in 2014, this gives them a strange kind of “credibility”, then in the final days before November they say there is light on the horizon, they might just squeak out a win to keep the Senate. Then they put on the biggest vote fraud fiasco ever seen with electronic machines deleting R votes and replacing them with D votes.


32 posted on 10/18/2013 5:52:38 AM PDT by RipSawyer (The TREE currently falling on you actually IS worse than a Bush.)
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To: LUV W

You know he is not a Senator now and leads the Heritage foundation?


33 posted on 10/18/2013 5:55:59 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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34 posted on 10/18/2013 6:00:37 AM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: listenhillary

Yes.....but he said “we” and I was answering to that. :)


35 posted on 10/18/2013 6:02:19 AM PDT by LUV W (All my heroes wear camos! Thank you David, Michael, Chris Txradioguy, JJ, CMS, & ALL of you heroes!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

DeMint shut up. Really shut up.


36 posted on 10/18/2013 6:05:48 AM PDT by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: listenhillary

Thank you that is a nice tool.


37 posted on 10/18/2013 6:07:31 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

No we won’t.


38 posted on 10/18/2013 6:09:39 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: ex-Texan

Thank-you so much for the link!


39 posted on 10/18/2013 6:10:38 AM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: listenhillary

You can tell who doesn’t follow politics by reading the comments on this thread.


40 posted on 10/18/2013 6:12:23 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Bull. They CAVE on EVERYTHING. The RINOs have never won anything. That is what they do, CAVE.


41 posted on 10/18/2013 6:15:51 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (I am proud to be a Christian and follower of my Lord Jesus Christ. Time is short for U to know Him!)
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To: 1rudeboy

It takes a lot of effort to pay attention to politics. Freepers pay more attention than most Americans and even with this, many of them miss details.

Now think about how informed the average American would be. It’s pretty scary how easily they can be manipulated.


42 posted on 10/18/2013 6:20:18 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: listenhillary

Yeah, we’re screwed.


43 posted on 10/18/2013 6:21:17 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Just an update from The Wise I.

A Facebook friend posted a screen capture of his premium BEFORE Obamacare and the one after.

So I did some studying, says The Wise I, who, in a former life, was an ersatz payroll/benefit manager.

His premium HAD BEEN, I round off, around $300 a month. His NEW premium was about $1,000 a month.

Of course, as Obama is hastened to add, the fellow was eligible for a subsidy which would have reduced his monthly premium down to around $300 a month.

But here’s what else they don’t tell you.

Never mind the $12,000 a year premium pricetag that this company offered, he had, get this....a $2,500 deductible!

He had a $1,000 deductible on prescriptions!

He had a co-pay of 30% and don’t forget this includes the HOSPITAL BILL. 30% of a big hospital bill is huge.

Now it did have a cap on out of pocket expenses for a year, something around $5,000, although I hasten to add I’ve been hearing stories that the cap, a requirement of Obamacare as it passed, might be removed. Those caps are important, more on this later.

So this fellow has to pay $1200 a year for the premium, after his subsidy runs out, I get this. BUT he will have to pay almost $5,000 regardless of the subsidy, before he gets any coverage!

My husband and I both had a heatlh crisis one year with him going into the hospital for almost two months...a brain infection of all things. I had a heart bypass.

The hospitals bills for both of us came to half a million, I’m not making this up.

Our health insurance at the time was through husband’s job, a private insurer, which wasn’t the best insurance in the world; it had high deductibles and that sort of thing but it had the most wonderful cap on out of pocket expenses of around $3,500, which did go up for the couple of years later that we had the plan, but that cap was precious.

Whatever, I could sleep at night cause without that cap I’d have had to pay 20$ of that half million hospital bill (our copay at the time was 20%) which would have been $100,000, figure it out, and they would have made me pay it.

This thing is going to destroy our economy and cause the dumb people who think this thing is free to riot in the streets.

As an added editorial, then I shall shut up, this is why the House Repubs did the right thing. They are on record as fighting this thing tooth and nail and no media screeching is ever going to overcome the horrible way all of us are going to suffer for this.

The Repubs will be the heroes, except the RINOS of course.


44 posted on 10/18/2013 6:34:18 AM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

How many Senators voted against cloture? Eighteen?


45 posted on 10/18/2013 6:35:33 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

Good reminder!


46 posted on 10/18/2013 6:40:29 AM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: Gene Eric; alrea; Amanda King; americanophile; Babsig; be-baw; BlessingsofLiberty; ...
Thanks for the ping Gene Eric.

Dragging the old DeMint ping list out of retirement...

  
Jim
DeMint
Ping!

Ex-South Carolina Senator and now President of the Heritage Foundation

Want on or off this ping list? GET WITH THE PROGRAM! Just FReepmail me.

Follow Sen. DeMint on Twitter.

47 posted on 10/18/2013 6:42:43 AM PDT by upchuck (nobamacare must be stopped before it can live down to our expectations.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Here we go again with the “LUCY AND THE FOOTBALL” game.


48 posted on 10/18/2013 6:45:59 AM PDT by Tula Git (There IS a coup in America and it's on track and almost complete.)
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To: Fishtalk

Some hospitals are asking that the deductible be paid up front before major care. Imagine a 28 year old coughing up $5,000 to get health care. 80% or more wont be able to scape up this money.


49 posted on 10/18/2013 6:46:39 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: newfreep

I hope the Heritage Foundation opens a website that publishes reports of ObamaCare RipOffs.

And the kids that voted for Obama need to know that he sold them out for cash received from Insurance Company lobbyists and fatcats.


50 posted on 10/18/2013 6:56:15 AM PDT by pfony1 (Add just 6 GOP Senators and "bury" Harry)
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