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Jim DeMint: We Won't Back Down on ObamaCare
wsj.com ^ | October 17, 2013 | Jim DeMint

Posted on 10/17/2013 11:19:12 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

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To: Tzimisce

Past tense— voted for him. He heads up Heritage. And lots of people believe him.

Think it’s expensive now— wait until single payer and rationing— the expense is one’s life for the good of the “mob” and re-distribution by theft. The premiums in a single payer will be 10 times higher than now.


101 posted on 10/18/2013 8:16:59 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: kearnyirish2

Someone has to pay the subsidy. It is a simple matter to demonstrate the lost jobs that are part of the cost of those who DO pay for the subsidy. Class warfare only goes so far when one finally wakes up and realizes they will never get anywhere with their “free” healthcare that is not set up that way at all. Like having insurance for a hotel room, that is then taken over by the govt.— how much would a room cost that way? The subsidy serves those on top— this is just like the ponzi scheme of social security. And like europe— headed for disaster and 3rd world.


102 posted on 10/18/2013 8:29:56 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Fishtalk

Extremely well put the entire comment. It is the deductibles that have to be paid to get the benefit— NO MATTER what the subsidy for the premium is.

Living proof this is NOT about coverage but re-distribution— because who IS going to pay for the subsidy? Us? The dems continue to borrow from china or wherever to fund the subsidies and the other giveaways. It is unsustainable and intended to fail, or break the financial system, and hence the US system of govt. and way of life. THAT is the goal— despite all delusional democrat libs belief in the 100 year dream. We are not Europe- and Europe would not pay for this either— and doesn’t now.


103 posted on 10/18/2013 8:37:45 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: antceecee

Jim demint is someone I just don’t trust


104 posted on 10/18/2013 8:39:32 PM PDT by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Theodore R.

Machinery, and the reality in SC, hence he left the Senate as a result, because the romneybots just about ruined any chance he had. A learning experience.


105 posted on 10/18/2013 8:40:12 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: antceecee

Cruz and lee yes! Not demint.


106 posted on 10/18/2013 8:40:28 PM PDT by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Fishtalk

Footnote: If I understand correctly, the premium subsidy will be taxed as income...


107 posted on 10/18/2013 9:14:50 PM PDT by mbj
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To: 1035rep
With a revived and engaged electorate, ObamaCare will now be the issue for the next few years.

Rather:
With a revived and engaged electorate, ObamaCare will now be the issue for the next few decades.
108 posted on 10/18/2013 9:31:16 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (WWLD? What would LaRussa do?)
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To: CincyRichieRich
I agree with you here. Jim Demint is excellent, but he has to get out there, make his face very well known and his VOICE and MESSAGE HEARD. Agree with you idea that he appear with Sarah Palin, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, and other Conservatives who are out there and fighting for We the People. We need representation and the public has to see and hear the numbers of strong Conservatives who must get that message out, and must repeat the message OFTEN, they must be the town crier.
109 posted on 10/18/2013 11:53:22 PM PDT by itssme
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To: Be Free
THANK YOU for the “list.” I have a newly found 43 year old relative who lives in Chicago and is a oboma robot. I'm gathering all the info talking points I can find in my quest to present him with the facts and the error of his ways. I'm not that articulate, and as strong a speaker on behalf of all the facts as I should be, so if anyone has some info on talking point lists I can use, would like to hear from you.
110 posted on 10/19/2013 12:07:59 AM PDT by itssme
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To: Theodore R.
Does Jim DeMint continue to this day to back Lindsey Graham? Does anyone have something in print to back this up?
111 posted on 10/19/2013 12:18:34 AM PDT by itssme
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To: itssme

Put it in a rap song for the youngsters to hear it.


112 posted on 10/19/2013 3:51:41 AM PDT by lilypad
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To: mbj

I had not heard the subsidy would be taxed as income though I suppose, it should be.

They will be taxing so-called “Cadillac” plans through the roof after all.


113 posted on 10/19/2013 6:39:55 AM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: mbj

wrong, the premium subsidy is a tax credit one next yr’s tax form, people will be paying the full premium each month


114 posted on 10/19/2013 9:09:15 AM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: kabar

“You can’t blame it on just the MSM.”

I don’t blame them solely; only 99%. Look at how much attention is given to a Repub criticizing another Repub versus how much is given to the majority of Repubs who criticize Obama. The media alone is the reason Republicans are branded “racist”; Dems have kept blacks (and increasingly Hispanics) in absolute squalor for their own political gains, and are never called out about it. The GOP’s worst enemy will always be the communists in this country and their media.

If Republicans found a way to eliminate all taxes without cutting a cent from the budget, the media would never report it (and you know it).


115 posted on 10/19/2013 9:31:15 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: sergeantdave

“Like a typical brainwashed New Jersey dunderhead”

Nice; the elementary school GED is paying dividends.


116 posted on 10/19/2013 9:40:42 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2
I don’t blame them solely; only 99%.

Nonsense. You ascribe too much power and control to the MSM.

Look at how much attention is given to a Repub criticizing another Repub versus how much is given to the majority of Repubs who criticize Obama.

How many Dems criticize other Dems, particularly on the floor of the House and Senate? Reps criticizing Obama is just another "dog bites man" non-story. When Reps go after other Reps, that is a story.

The media alone is the reason Republicans are branded “racist”

Meanwhile, Manhattan Institute fellow Heather Mac Donald notes the White House continues to attack opponents of the Bush-Kennedy amnesty package as “nativists.” Conservative columnist Linda Chavez accused amnesty critics of “not liking Mexicans.” Homeland Security Department Secretary Michael Chertoff suggested enforcement advocates wanted to “execute” illegal aliens. Sen. Lindsay Graham, South Carolina Republican, trashed immigration enforcement proponents as “bigots” in front of the ethnocentric, open-borders group La Raza. Yeah, we’re the nativists.

An employee of Grover Norquist’s Americans for Tax Reform (ATR), together with a political ally of “Gang of Eight” member Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL), will argue Friday that groups opposed to the immigration bill pending in the U.S. Senate are “nativists,” Breitbart News has learned.

Reagan speechwriter Peggy Noonan cites other attacks by Bush surrogates on the conservative base: "Sen. Lindsey Graham has said, 'We're gonna tell the bigots to shut up.' ... Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff suggested opponents would prefer illegal immigrants be killed; Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez said those who oppose the bill want 'mass deportation.' Former Bush speechwriter Michael Gerson said those who oppose the bill are 'anti-immigrant' and suggested they suffer from 'rage' and 'national chauvinism.'

"Why would they speak so insultingly, with such hostility, of opponents who are concerned citizens? And often, though not exclusively, concerned conservatives?" asks Noonan.

Because, Peggy, down deep where they live, they don't like the right, never did and have always sought to be seen by the Big Media as the progressive children of a dysfunctional and retarded family.

In the new book Game Change there are a number of revelations, gossip and innuendo that are attributed to those who were running for president in 2008. There are two quotes in the book though that I have no doubt were actually made. Both are from Senator John McCain.

The first is where McCain said that those who oppose amnesty for illegal aliens are "going to destroy the fu*king party”.

The second is in a call with Senator Lindsey Graham where McCain said in frustration at the rebuke he was getting, "Listen to these people ... Why would I want to be the leader of a party of such assholes?"

If Republicans found a way to eliminate all taxes without cutting a cent from the budget, the media would never report it (and you know it).

If the Reps would stop forming their circular firing squads they would be much better off. The way they treated Akin and Mourdock was uncalled for. The Dems stick together. We don't. When the leadership of the party including a Presidential nominee, senators, WH advisors, cabinet members, etc. label fellow members of the party as racists and bigots and nativists, it destroys the brand. Who wants to be a member of such a party? It just reinforces the Dems who label the GOP as a bunch of racist, old white men. It is the most destructive thing we can do. Don't blame the MSM for reporting it. Blame the a$$holes who are saying it.

"We must, indeed, all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately." Ben Franklin

117 posted on 10/19/2013 10:02:24 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Yes, you will.


118 posted on 10/19/2013 10:18:48 AM PDT by GeorgeTex (Obama-The Ultimate Terrorist Weapon.)
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To: 1035rep

thanks for the info


119 posted on 10/19/2013 2:35:14 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: kabar

“Nonsense. You ascribe too much power and control to the MSM.”

You’re right; they were beaten by Obama’s oratorical brilliance./s

There is no other explanation how this half-wit token with such high unemployment, high prices for staples, record consumer debt, and low home prices is here for another four years. If you talk to average people you will be shocked by their perceptions, and you’ll very quickly understand who shaped them. If Republicans can’t find an alternative means of reaching voters, they may as well close up shop; there was NO REASON for Romney’s loss in 2012. Whatever shortcomings he had were NOTHING compared to Obama’s by 2012; Obama was a proven failure, while Romney could hold out hope (in the same way the Kenyan Pirate did in 2008).


120 posted on 10/19/2013 4:25:48 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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