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Obama's winning strategy will be retested soon
Los Angeles Times ^ | October 17, 2013 | By Kathleen Hennessey and Christi Parsons

Posted on 10/18/2013 2:15:16 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

WASHINGTON — It's been a constant quandary for the Obama White House: Should the president reach out to his Republican opponents or isolate them? Should he compromise to move his agenda or try to split the GOP ranks? Carrot or stick?

[BIG SNIP]

Democrats continue to debate how the president should approach that process — offering concessions or lines in the sand. This week, former Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta told reporters he thought Obama should put "everything on the table," as well as do more to build relationships with Republicans.........

[Neera] Tanden [president of the Center for American Progress] scoffed at the notion that the president's poor relationships with Republicans were driving the division.

"I look at Leon Panetta, who I have a great deal of respect for — but what planet has he been on?" she said, arguing that Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) did not try to repeal Obamacare because "Barack Obama hasn't taken him out for a drink."

"Republicans look at their self-interest," she said....

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: conservatism; leonpanetta; neeratanden; obamacare; shutdown; teaparty; tedcruz; texas
The picture the Times chose to go with this article, speaks volumes - laughable to us but shows proper reverence for Obama by his compliant media.

But Chauncey Gardner comes to mind.

1 posted on 10/18/2013 2:15:16 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The Democrats should have left alone those folks with medical insurance, and that includes catastrophic medical insurance.

By concentrating on those who are uninsured or underinsured, the Democrats could have had the program moving along nicely at this point.

But no, BHO2 just had to be confrontational. That’s the way of the Community Organizer and frankly, most of the Democrat Party leadership.

Thank God they’re stupid. This medical fiasco is going to collapse and folks will not tolerate a bankrupt government trying to foist socialist medicine on America.

I think, IMHO, the Democrats have shot themselves in the foot.


2 posted on 10/18/2013 2:25:27 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITIZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF USA CITIZEN PARENTS)
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To: SatinDoll

Good post.


3 posted on 10/18/2013 2:27:33 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Everything is going the way ZERO wants.
All the attention has been away from the disastrous "ZERO DON'T CARE" roll out 10/01.
He has had this planned for some time. He knew how?
I don't put anything past the low life. . . . .
4 posted on 10/18/2013 2:29:49 AM PDT by DeaconRed (The TEA PARTY is my new party. Juan Mclaim and his Republican party can kiss my Grits.)
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To: SatinDoll; 1035rep
Here is an excellent article on the disastrous "roll-out" situation (panic behind the scenes): Assessing the Exchanges
5 posted on 10/18/2013 2:33:14 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: DeaconRed
If you haven't already, take 7:46 enjoyable minutes and watch how Tom DeLay handles a CNN interrogator.
6 posted on 10/18/2013 2:34:41 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: SatinDoll
I think, IMHO, the Democrats have shot themselves in the foot.

I hate to say it, but unless something changes, the Dems will get more funding next year.

The Collaborators are terrified of bad press. Hopefully, the fact that Cruz and the Tea Party will have been proven right, might give us some clout.

7 posted on 10/18/2013 2:56:56 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Obama will go with the stick.

The latest surrender of the Republican party has shown he has half of the Republican Senate in his pocket and one third of the Republican House in there with them.

That picture by the way shows exactly how the White Press Corpse treats Obama as they bow as he walks by.


8 posted on 10/18/2013 3:02:16 AM PDT by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: SatinDoll

I agree. It’s a house of cards waiting to fall. It’s OUR ace in the hole.


9 posted on 10/18/2013 3:08:23 AM PDT by FreeperCell
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To: SatinDoll

Uhhh, they need our (now higher) insurance premiums to fund the credits they give to the low/no income exchange members. They can’t and won’t leave us alone. We’re needed to pay for the deadbeats.


10 posted on 10/18/2013 3:22:59 AM PDT by Justa
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Everyone should change their tag to mine :-)


11 posted on 10/18/2013 3:32:22 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (HELL, NO!)
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To: FreeperCell

Just wait til the libs see how high their premiums are and realize the’ve been conned. Can’t wait to hear the whining begin. I think its going to wake most of them from their hypnotic zombie state. An enormous amount of people are now unemployed or their wages decreased significantly so they are going to loseva huge amount of tax revenue. I predict implosion of the system within one year when they realize there’s not going to beenough revenue to fund it and they start restricting medical care to keep osts down. Let the festivities begin.


12 posted on 10/18/2013 3:32:47 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Kathleen Hennessey and Christi Parsons

...Working together on the gag reflex.

13 posted on 10/18/2013 3:33:49 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Producing Talk Show Prep since 1998.)
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To: jsanders2001
Can’t wait to hear the whining begin.

Can't wait either. "Hey, be-otch, it's the law!"

14 posted on 10/18/2013 3:34:53 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Producing Talk Show Prep since 1998.)
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To: Justa

> Uhhh, they need our (now higher) insurance premiums to fund the credits they give to the low/no income exchange members. They can’t and won’t leave us alone. We’re needed to pay for the deadbeats.

Well they won’t be able to get it from me because 0 killed the economy and I’ve had a lot less revenue than in the past. Other people I know are experiencing the same.


15 posted on 10/18/2013 3:35:22 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: VRW Conspirator

> Can’t wait to hear the whining begin.
Can’t wait either. “Hey, be-otch, it’s the law!”

Yep. I’ll just say stop your whining. You thought the Tea Party was lying. You bought 0 and the MSM’s lies, line, and sinker. Eat it sucker!...lol


16 posted on 10/18/2013 3:38:19 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Justa

We’re already paying for them. You think those without insurance don’t show up in ERs? Of course they do.

There is a large population of young people who work and are healthy. Anyone over 18 and working should be in the medical insurance system. They are mistaken when they believe they do not need health insurance. No one is immortal.


17 posted on 10/18/2013 3:38:47 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITIZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF USA CITIZEN PARENTS)
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To: SatinDoll
Anyone over 18 and working should be in the medical insurance system.

Why?

The attitude that every medical expense, no matter how minor, must be paid by someone else through insurance, is a large part of why health care costs are so high to begin with. Moving to a model where only catastrophic illnesses/injuries are covered would reduce the costs--in fact, is the only way to reduce the costs, both of insurance and of health care.

Take your repetition of the Obamacare party line somewhere else.

18 posted on 10/18/2013 3:50:45 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: SatinDoll

The problem for the young people who are the backbone of support this financially due to their good health is that this will be exactly like social security and medicare, e.g., bankrupted by the time they really need it. Another unfunded Obligation if you look at actuary tables.


19 posted on 10/18/2013 3:58:22 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The lesson I see to future presidents is this:

As long as the Mainstream Media is on your side and covers up for you in all ways; You can do and say ANYTHING and get away with it.

Of course the opposite is true too, as soon as you lose the MSM, you are toast. You will be vilified and destroyed in the media everyday until you are destroyed in reality too.


20 posted on 10/18/2013 4:14:20 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: jsanders2001

I think the revolt will be similar to the protests of the 1960’s. People will be driven out to the streets in anger. How fitting for these people.


21 posted on 10/18/2013 4:17:29 AM PDT by FreeperCell
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Obama is going to crash and burn when companies start sending the open enrollment forms around. In the next couple of weeks, those of us who actually work for a living will know their fate. How much will their premiums go up? How high will their deductibles go? Is their employer switching plans? Are their doctors on the new plan? Are they being kicked onto the “exchange”? Are they dropping healthcare and paying the fine? Are they getting their hours cut? Was granny kicked off of supplemental insurance? TSWHTF very soon.


22 posted on 10/18/2013 4:31:32 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The Clown is a clown and will never change.


23 posted on 10/18/2013 4:35:13 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Let’s look a bit closer...

Should the president reach out to his Republican opponents or isolate them? Alinsky says, “Isolate them.”
Should he compromise to move his agenda or try to split the GOP ranks? Alinsky says, “Split them up. Set one upon the other.”
Carrot or stick? Alinsky says, “Always the stick; don’t hold back.”

There is no mistaking the strategy employed by this commie-in-chief. It is taken directly from the dhimmicrap playbook, and executed with fervor, focus, and finality.


24 posted on 10/18/2013 4:52:45 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2016; I pray we make it that long.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The insurers don’t yet have a clear overall sense of the risk profile of the people who are signing up, but the circumstantial evidence they have is very distressing to them. The danger of a rapid adverse selection spiral is much more serious than they believed possible this summer. They would love it if the administration could shut down the exchange system, at least the federal one, until the interface problems can be addressed. But they know this is impossible.

The money quote. It was inevitable. As long as the penalty is much less than the deductible for an average policy, people will pay the tax and gamble with their health.

25 posted on 10/18/2013 4:57:32 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (ZeroCare: Make them pay; do not delay.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
[But Chauncey Gardner comes to mind.]

From PJ Tatler blog:

Vernon Jordan, the big-time Washington lawyer (and a solid Democrat), tells the story of a golf game in which Obama was partnered with New York mayor Michael Bloomberg, who also is in a very select group of true experts on the financial markets. Afterward, Bloomberg remarked that, through four hours of riding the cart with the mayor, Obama asked his golf partner not a single question about anything.

26 posted on 10/18/2013 5:43:33 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
It's been a constant quandary for the Obama White House: Should the president reach out to his Republican opponents or isolate them? Should he compromise to move his agenda or try to split the GOP ranks? Carrot or stick?

I see no evidence of any "quandary." He's been quite consistent with his attacks.

27 posted on 10/18/2013 5:51:18 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (We're At That Awkward Stage: It's too late to vote them out, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
.....Obama asked his golf partner not a single question about anything.

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt." - Abraham Lincoln

28 posted on 10/18/2013 6:00:00 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

What winning strategy? With the exception of Cruz and Lee, he is fighting unarmed cowards who are focusing their energies on destroying Cruz and Lee. They remind me of a pack of hyenas.


29 posted on 10/18/2013 6:04:23 AM PDT by sport
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To: exDemMom

I support what she said.

We have become elitist, in part.


30 posted on 10/18/2013 6:07:11 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Obama says “Washington has to change”. If he was referring to the corruption that would be great, but what he really wants to end is the constitutional structure of the balance of powers. Nothing short of an absolute dictatorship will please him.


31 posted on 10/18/2013 7:16:10 AM PDT by Spok
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To: Spok

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/329219-obamas-hollow-debt-victory

.............”I think we have fully now acquainted our new members with what a losing strategy that is,” McConnell told The Hill in an interview.

Obama on Thursday, as the GOP licked their wounds, pledged to “look for willing partners” across the aisle to “get important work done.”

But another former senior administration official said Obama’s second term is dependent on the outcome the “Republican Civil War,” and whether Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) is willing to pass an immigration bill without a majority of the GOP.

“If John Boehner wants to play ball and is finally willing to ditch the Hastert Rule, there’s no limit on what can get done,” the former official said.

“If, however, he only compromised to avoid catastrophic default and now wants to restore control of the House to the Tea Party, very little will get done.”


32 posted on 10/18/2013 7:17:32 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

33 posted on 10/18/2013 7:44:07 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Cincinatus' Wife.
This week, former Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta told reporters he thought Obama should put "everything on the table," as well as do more to build relationships with Republicans... [Neera] Tanden [president of the Center for American Progress] scoffed... "I look at Leon Panetta, who I have a great deal of respect for -- but what planet has he been on?"
Partisan Media Shills ping.


34 posted on 10/18/2013 6:02:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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