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Cory Booker to conduct same-sex marriages in New Jersey
CNN ^ | October 18, 2013

Posted on 10/18/2013 8:41:45 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia

(CNN) - Senator-elect Cory Booker will move forward with his support of same-sex marriage even before he is sworn in, with plans to grant the marriages of several same-sex couples 12:01 a.m. Monday after a court ruling goes into effect.

The story was first reported by Buzzfeed. The New Jersey Democrat, who's the mayor of Newark, re-tweeted that article to his celebrity-sized Twitter crowd of 1.4 million followers.

According to Buzzfeed, Booker will recognize the weddings of at least 10 same-sex couples at Newark City Hall.

The weddings will come after a New Jersey judge ruled last month that the already legal civil unions in the state didn't go far enough because they prevented couples from getting federal benefits. In her ruling, the judge cited the June Supreme Court decision that overturned a key part of the federal Defense of Marriage Act.

(Excerpt) Read more at politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: corybooker; culturewar; doma; homosexualagenda; lavendermafia; marriage; newark; newjersey; stevelonegan

1 posted on 10/18/2013 8:41:45 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

well of course he will.

He has to prove how liberal he is.

Remember it wasn’t too many years ago that liberals were willing to say they opposed homosexual marriage? Now it’s a given that of course good liberals support it. It’s bigoted not to and all that.


2 posted on 10/18/2013 8:45:08 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: rightwingintelligentsia; Revolting cat!; GeronL; wagglebee

So mayors grant marriages? Who knew?


3 posted on 10/18/2013 8:45:27 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Maybe he can marry T-Bone to T-Bone.


4 posted on 10/18/2013 8:46:25 AM PDT by Ironfocus
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

What dude will Booker be marrying?


5 posted on 10/18/2013 8:47:15 AM PDT by Mannaggia l'America
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To: Dilbert San Diego

How many of them have “college experiences” in their closet?


6 posted on 10/18/2013 8:48:22 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

If he holds it in Newark, maybe he’ll get shot.


7 posted on 10/18/2013 8:50:35 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

You go New Jersey!


8 posted on 10/18/2013 9:01:09 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

My nephew is gay. He’s a wonderful young man that contributes positively to his community. He lives in NY with his husband. They know we love them both and want them to be happy. They also know that I don’t think they are “married”.

I’ve been asked why and I can’t articulate a reason. I just don’t like the idea that a generations old definition should be changed or amended to include same sex couples.

They appreciate my argument about the “slipperly slope”. I don’t make any sort of religious based argument because the Bible can be very contradictory and outdated and they are quick to point that out. There’s no bad blood between any of us.

I guess my question is - how do you respond when someone asks why you’re against it? How do you respond when they ask - “Why can’t we be happy?” “How does our marriage affect you negatively in any way?”

I have a hard time answering. The only thing I can say is that they CAN be happy and it DOESN’T affect me negatively but I still don’t like it and think they should have Civil Unions.

Help me out here.


9 posted on 10/18/2013 9:01:21 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue (I have no home. I'm the wind.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Will Chris Christie be Best Man?


10 posted on 10/18/2013 9:01:42 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

PS - Sorry for the “thread drift” but I wasn’t about to start a vanity thread for this. It’s been gnawing at me for some time and I’d like the reasoned opinions of people here so that I can consider a different way to respond.


11 posted on 10/18/2013 9:02:37 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue (I have no home. I'm the wind.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

the judge is an idiot

a. it is not the job of the fifty sovereign states to manage their law to make-up-for a perceived “deficit” in federal law

b. establishment of “same sex marriage” IN THE STATES THAT HAVE CIVIL UNION LAWS, BY JUDICIAL FIAT is neither proper, legitimate or necessary

c. the “plaintiffs” needed to take their case to federal legislators where, by mere legislation and without the judges and without changing the definition of marriage, federal law can make it that where “marriage” and “spouse” are part of federal law, “civil union”/”civil partnership” and “civil partner” are acceptable substitutes IN THE CASE OF persons who have obtained a legal civil partnership in their state.

With civil partneships established in various, it is NOT a failure of state law that federal law has not put civil partnerships on a legal par with the spouses in a marriage. The “federal denial” is neither an error of or a responsibility of states, and particularly NOT state judges to “fix” by judicial fiat.

Both apples and organges might be O.K. Calling an apple an orange, for convenenience sake, does not make them equal or same - it makes a mockery of their differences.


12 posted on 10/18/2013 9:02:44 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Mannaggia l'America

The new head of Homeland Security. /sar


13 posted on 10/18/2013 9:05:50 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
It's instructive that the redefinition of marriage largely has to be forced. If people were really so in favor of this, why is force needed?
14 posted on 10/18/2013 9:10:07 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

This is what a U.S. Senator does? Is the Governor invited to the wedding?


15 posted on 10/18/2013 9:15:09 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Right Wing Yahoos taking Over the GOP --YAHOO!)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

The fact that you think civil unions are just fine is the problem.


16 posted on 10/18/2013 9:15:44 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

successful campaign based on “buttBook” it certainly figures— the great unwashed downtrodden whose lifestyle choice has become a “right”... while still crying “victim” like the arrested development children they are. Stuck in oral anal fixation. It all really does figure.


17 posted on 10/18/2013 9:22:14 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Hey New Jersey voters—and black America....is THIS what you want? Lawlessness AND sodomy? You like this? You embrace this??


18 posted on 10/18/2013 9:23:54 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: TangledUpInBlue

You can do a search on homosexual issues here on FR which will give you tons of information that you need to form your arguments. I see you’re fairly new here, so do a search.


19 posted on 10/18/2013 9:24:23 AM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: TangledUpInBlue
"I’ve been asked why and I can’t articulate a reason."

It's insanity, pure and simple. It's the inability accept the reality of which sex you were born.

“How does our marriage affect you negatively in any way?”

It affects you, me, and all of us because it affects our civilization. The homosexual/atheist/Communist/Satanist axis wants to destroy Western civilization, so they're attacking the pillars of our society: faith, family, marriage, language, national borders, patriotism, and so on. When those pillars crumble -- and they're well on their way to that -- Western civilization will collapse, and the forces of evil will be able to establish the Satanist/Communist/sexually perverted society they so desperately want.

So yes, your nephew's so-called "marriage" does affect you...and me. Just as the decision of a young woman in my family to "live as a man" (taking male hormones and everything) with her girlfriend affects me...and you. On a case by case basis, those insane people's insane decisions may not affect anyone outside their/our heartbroken families. But together, they threaten our society, and that's why it affects you. And me. And the rest of us.

I will always love that particular young family member, but I do not accept her insanity. She is my enemy in the cultural civil war that's raging in our Republic. That's how we have to look at it, as painful as it may be.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

20 posted on 10/18/2013 9:24:45 AM PDT by wku man (It's almost deer season, got your DEERGOGGLES on yet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jexrnFq2fXY)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I had no idea that the legislature passed such a law and the Governor signed it.


21 posted on 10/18/2013 9:34:21 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Lots of info: http://www.str.org/Search?q=Homosexual+marriage

btw, a Biblical argument is not a weak one. :)


22 posted on 10/18/2013 9:36:00 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Like it or not the Holy Bible condemns it. It goes against nature. Just to think of it is really gross, disgusting, nasty and stomach turning. But mainly it not acceptable to God.


23 posted on 10/18/2013 9:49:59 AM PDT by Ramonne
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

So, marriage is a just way to qualify for federal benefits for these people. /facepalm


24 posted on 10/18/2013 9:56:54 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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25 posted on 10/18/2013 9:57:10 AM PDT by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: wku man

“It affects you, me, and all of us because it affects our civilization. The homosexual/atheist/Communist/Satanist axis wants to destroy Western civilization, so they’re attacking the pillars of our society: faith, family, marriage, language, national borders, patriotism, and so on. When those pillars crumble — and they’re well on their way to that — Western civilization will collapse, and the forces of evil will be able to establish the Satanist/Communist/sexually perverted society they so desperately want.

So yes, your nephew’s so-called “marriage” does affect you...and me. Just as the decision of a young woman in my family to “live as a man” (taking male hormones and everything) with her girlfriend affects me...and you. On a case by case basis, those insane people’s insane decisions may not affect anyone outside their/our heartbroken families. But together, they threaten our society, and that’s why it affects you. And me. And the rest of us.

I will always love that particular young family member, but I do not accept her insanity. She is my enemy in the cultural civil war that’s raging in our Republic. That’s how we have to look at it, as painful as it may be.”

This is a good line of reasoning. And it makes sense. I can already hear their response to it. And don’t get me wrong, we don’t go around discussing this ad nauseum. But I appreciate you taking the time to write it down.


26 posted on 10/18/2013 10:32:52 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue (I have no home. I'm the wind.)
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To: miss marmelstein

Ok, I’ll do that. Thanks.


27 posted on 10/18/2013 10:33:48 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue (I have no home. I'm the wind.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Thanks for the link. Interesting reading there although I have to say the Biblical argument for marriage is strong, that’s not where their objections would lie.

Anyway, thanks again for the link.


28 posted on 10/18/2013 10:40:33 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue (I have no home. I'm the wind.)
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To: Ramonne

“Like it or not the Holy Bible condemns it. It goes against nature. Just to think of it is really gross, disgusting, nasty and stomach turning. But mainly it not acceptable to God.”

I agree with you. 100%. But this is the reason that’s easiest to argue against because of other areas of the Bible that are contradictory or just plain outdated by modern standards. (i.e. Deuteronomy & Leviticus Stoning of Rebellious children etc...)

It’s an argument/debate that you just can’t win. That’s why I am in search of a more tenable position.

It’s also difficult to stand on the traditional definition of marriage because I (and 50% of most others) happened to be divorced. So they claim I am “picking and choosing” my areas of the Bible that I want to believe.


29 posted on 10/18/2013 10:56:24 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue (I have no home. I'm the wind.)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Marriage is between one man and one woman. The bible says so and common sense says so. Children fully deserve to have a mother and a father. Same sex parents should not be raising children. Gay pride parades are out of control and I avoid them. I vote conservative because that’s what’s best for not just me but the United States of America.

One more thing.

I’m gay.


30 posted on 10/18/2013 11:20:46 AM PDT by rup1971
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To: rup1971

Thanks for chiming in. Let me play devil’s advocate.

Don’t you think you may want to be a Father? If you’re single, and you adopt a child, are you saying this shouldn’t be allowed? What difference does it matter if you are living with a boyfriend (but not married) and raising a child? Don’t you want to be a Dad?


31 posted on 10/18/2013 11:31:09 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue (I have no home. I'm the wind.)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Simply consider it in economic terms.

Gay marriage allows the entry of more couples into the world of marriage and thus devalues marriage much like increasing the money supply devalues the dollar.

A little more close to home. Think about the value of your home and the impact on that value if a married gay couple were to move in next door. How do you sell your house if your gay neighbors are visible while potential buyers are looking at the house you are attempting to sell?

And in a very personal level. What if you were having difficulty with your own marriage. Will the value of your marriage increase or decrease if you know that people in your own community or even your next door neighbors are gay and are married?

Will the value of your children’s education increase or decrease if they happen to go to school with kids who have parents that are involved in gay marriages?

Will that be a distraction to the educational mission of the school?

What if you work for a company that offers Domestic Partner Benefits? Will inclusion of these gays on your company’s health care plan increase or decrease the cost of your insurance?


32 posted on 10/18/2013 11:35:31 AM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: TangledUpInBlue

We all sin, but it is the repenting and turning from that sin that makes us able to fellowship with God. For in Him we have redemption through His blood, and the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of His grace.
They want your acceptance because they haven’t God’s acceptance and their hearts tell them this. Even if you said all the words they want to hear it won’t make them happy. You have the Light in you and they see it.
They have a sin problem just as we all do. We are all able to go to God and ask forgiveness, but we must have that change of heart about sin to please God. The argument needs to be are they in Christ. Do they have fellowship with Him. Are they trusting in Him?


33 posted on 10/18/2013 12:08:47 PM PDT by Ramonne
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

The election is over, he won, this is settled law, etc etc.

Thanks rightwingintelligentsia.


34 posted on 10/18/2013 12:29:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

seems now the supreme court has ruled that they have to now do sham marriages.

Did Christie’s supreme court judge rule in favor of this sham too?


35 posted on 10/18/2013 1:28:10 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

tell them that putting a penis into a hole constantly which puts out feces is sick, unhealthy and not natural.

Having sex with feces is not normal either


36 posted on 10/18/2013 1:29:49 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

oh and the fact that you say he has a husband tells me that you have no problem with feces sex or those two.


37 posted on 10/18/2013 1:31:38 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

This is great. Now EVERYONE will be allowed to experience the joys of a New Jersey divorce.


38 posted on 10/18/2013 1:32:06 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: TangledUpInBlue

seems to me that you’re arguing FOR homosexual marriage on here, are you sure you’re in the right website?


39 posted on 10/18/2013 1:33:36 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Senators do not have the power to do that, of course.


40 posted on 10/18/2013 1:39:22 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: TangledUpInBlue
“How does our marriage affect you negatively in any way?”

In 10 years the pedophiles will be asking the same question

It is abnormal, the human body was not built for it. It is totally unnatural.

41 posted on 10/18/2013 1:41:10 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: TangledUpInBlue

It is a mental illness. When people define their whole lives by their sexual preferences and feel the need to indoctrinate children and have it celebrated by government edict and to punish those who disagree there is something seriously wrong with them.

Yes, it is a mental illness.


42 posted on 10/18/2013 1:49:07 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: wku man; TangledUpInBlue
“How does our marriage affect you negatively in any way?”

Yes, when they indoctrinate children and promote it to children, it does affect others. When people are being punished by law for not approving of it, it does affect others. When they are parading around in the nude and whacking off at the "Pride" parades in front of kids, it affects others.

We call this homofascism.

43 posted on 10/18/2013 1:52:56 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: TangledUpInBlue
It’s also difficult to stand on the traditional definition of marriage because I (and 50% of most others) happened to be divorced.

and you define your whole existence by divorce? You attend Divorce Pride parades? You want to shove it down the throats of children and even promote divorce in schools? You think people who disagree should be punished by law? Do you wallow in your sin?

There is a huge difference.

44 posted on 10/18/2013 1:57:00 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL
"We call this homofascism."

That's about the best term I've heard for it. Homofascism it is.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

45 posted on 10/18/2013 5:33:34 PM PDT by wku man (It's almost deer season, got your DEERGOGGLES on yet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jexrnFq2fXY)
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To: GeronL

These are good points. There is clearly a diffrence there, thanks. Someone else made a good point about the legal force of the situation being pushed on society. That pisses me off more than anything and I like that argument too.

It’s better than the few non-trusting souls who would rather cast aspersions on my motivations than actually provide advice. I’ve lurked on this site since before the days of “belly girl” and it still shocks me how MEAN people get when it APPEARS that someone may not agree 100% with their position. Stop and think. This does not advance our cause.

I suspect if we used real names here, people would be more polite. I’ve seen that on other boards based on other topics, but I know it’ll never happen here.


46 posted on 10/19/2013 5:34:16 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue (I have no home. I'm the wind.)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Another, this from the Heritage Foundation:
http://www.heritage.org/marriage/


47 posted on 10/19/2013 11:42:49 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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