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GOP Establishment Lost All Credibility In Fiscal Fight
breitbart.com ^ | 10/18/13 | Mike Flynn

Posted on 10/18/2013 11:30:16 AM PDT by cotton1706

To fully understand the state of play in the Republican party, look no further than Sens. Mike Enzi (WY) and Pat Roberts (KS). Both are reliable, mainstream conservatives, yet neither have a record of seeking a fight or standing on principle. Think Orrin Hatch, without the tab-collars. Both, however, stood with Ted Cruz in the fight over ObamaCare. Not coincidentally, both face serious primary challengers. Sen. Mike Enzi is being challenged by Liz Cheney, who criticizes his "go-along-to-get-along" approach to government. Sen. Pat Roberts, who helped guide HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius through the nomination process, is being challenged by doctor, and Obama cousin, Milton Wolf. Nothing in their legislative record suggests they would have sided with Sens. Cruz and Mike Lee but for these primary challenges.

While most of the media and the GOP establishment try to pin blame for the recent fiscal stand-off on conservatives and the Tea Party, in reality the debate shows how bankrupt the GOP establishment has become. Senators, who serve six-year terms, spend most of their time in office immune from voters. They often get caught up in the world of DC salons. As the ballot box approaches, however, they affect a more conservative posture.

We all remember how Sen. John McCain, a vocal advocate now for amnesty, took a decidedly different tact when running for reelection.

Safely reelected, McCain led the establishment Republican charge against Sen. Ted Cruz. Just moments after Cruz ended his epic 21-hour speech against ObamaCare, McCain took to the Senate floor to trash the freshman Senator. This came just months after McCain and his doppelganger Sen. Lindsey Graham attacked Sen. Rand Paul for raising legitimate concerns about the Obama Administration's use of drones.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections; US: Kansas; US: Texas; US: Utah; US: Wyoming
KEYWORDS: elections; kansas; kathleensebelius; lindseygraham; lizcheney; mikeenzi; miltonwolf; orrinhatch; patroberts; teaparty; tedcruz; texas; utah; wyoming

1 posted on 10/18/2013 11:30:16 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

They had credibility still? Thought that the 2012 election wiped that out. (Thought that the 2008 election did, too.)


2 posted on 10/18/2013 11:37:53 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: cotton1706

If it takes a primary to remind you who you work for then its time to go.


3 posted on 10/18/2013 11:38:15 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: cotton1706

A lot of these Senators just vote conservative on everything that won’t pass or would’ve passed anyways, and vote liberal on cloture when it comes to critical votes for Obama’s agenda.

Then they vote against final passage, so they can say they voted against it.

We need to get rid of these people.


4 posted on 10/18/2013 11:46:57 AM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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To: cotton1706
We need the TEA Party to take the lead and help us identify the closet RINOS so we can primary them out. We also need help in determining who can take their places.

It's time for the GOP to go back to being a conservative party. We need new GOP leadership.

5 posted on 10/18/2013 11:55:01 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: cotton1706
The GOP mainstream hijacked the "tea party" to defeat higher taxes on "millionaires and billionaires". We were totally with that fight, no questions asked. Now that it's an issue where they support a corporate-profit rather than conservative view, they're labelling us as unhinged. They have no loyalty whatsoever.

Turning their backs on campaign issue is one level of sleaze. But picking and choosing which conservative issues they'll support is another. Add treachery to traitor and saboteur to their list of "attributes".I see no point in having them in office instead of dems. At least with crazy out-of-control dems, there's no ambiguity about where they're at. We'd be better off as a smaller and more unified contingent of constitutional conservatives, so the people will have somewhere to turn when the US economy, democracy, and rule of law implodes.

JMHO

6 posted on 10/18/2013 11:55:54 AM PDT by grania
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To: cotton1706

Let’s get rid of the RINOs but be careful not to replace them with “moderate” Republicans. We need conservatives who will stand on principle as reflected by their ACTIONS. We need more Cruzes and Lees.


7 posted on 10/18/2013 12:00:41 PM PDT by Dapper 26
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To: cotton1706

Contact your local county GOP boards.

Across this country, local county GOP boards need to issue a “Vote of No Confidence” regarding the leadership of the RNC and the republican leadership in the House and Senate.

The local boards basically are made up by the base. The majority of republicans are conservative. It is the leadership of the RNC and the House / Senate are in the minority.

The RNC lavishly spends money on its establishment candidates while sparsely supporting their conservative counterparts.

If county GOP boards all over the country begin doing this, it will send a clear message that the leadership has to change now. We, the base, greatly outnumber them.


8 posted on 10/18/2013 12:02:33 PM PDT by TMA62 (Al Sharpton - The North Korea of race relations)
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To: cotton1706

The GOP-e thinks they can play nice in the sandbox with cutthroat murderers and thieves. They have comitted political suicide with their bungling. The democrats are out to exterminate the GOP as a national party, and the GOP-e just doesn’t seem to realize it.


9 posted on 10/18/2013 12:02:37 PM PDT by henkster (Communists never negotiate.)
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To: cotton1706

The rinos maybe. Not the ones who stood up. We’ll see who has the last laugh (or cry) when obamacare crashes and burns.


10 posted on 10/18/2013 12:05:36 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: Noamie
If it takes a primary to remind you who you work for then its time to go.

More than that, how many conservative republican like Ted Cruz are in the Senate? And how many in the House? Why not band together like McCain likes to do with RINOs and theaten to change parties (to independent) or even better just change now?

Teach the GOPe a lesson and make it all that much more difficult for them to regain the Senate because of these losses of seats in the Senate.

What's really the difference between Nancy Pelosi and John Boehner? I see none. What's the difference between McConnell and Reid? I see none.

Switching parties, the GOPe has much more to lose than an already elected and popular politician like Ted Cruz.

It worked for Joe Lieberman

11 posted on 10/18/2013 12:10:50 PM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: cotton1706

The Senate GOP leadership stomped all over us conservatives. This is where true blame lays for the loss of the healthcare/debt battle. FU GOP-e !!!


12 posted on 10/18/2013 12:11:55 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: cotton1706

Liz Cheney already had intentions to run for Senate.


13 posted on 10/18/2013 12:14:37 PM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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14 posted on 10/18/2013 12:15:49 PM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: cotton1706

They could not lose what they didn’t have.


15 posted on 10/18/2013 12:17:23 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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To: cotton1706

It will be interesting to watch the small donors react to this consummate weak kneed sell out of the hinterlanders. I’ll bet the donations dry up so fast it will make the RNC HQ resemble the Sahara desert.


16 posted on 10/18/2013 12:30:25 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: cotton1706
Let's not also forget that Pat Roberts thought he was chairing a "bipartisan" select committee on Intelligence, until Republican aide Manuel Miranda found a memo by co-chair Jay Rockefeller that detailed how the Democrats were secretly "dragging" Republicans along until they could "pull the trigger" on investigations.

Orrin Hatch, not content to stay quietly in the background, actually fired Miranda for finding the memo in the first place, rather than fight the Democrat duplicity that the memo suggested.

-PJ

17 posted on 10/18/2013 12:31:17 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: cotton1706

Can you believe they started their calling asking for money for the next election? I have had three calls just this morning. Repubs are not getting any money from me. I tell them that John McCain, etc. are millionaires...go ask them for money.


18 posted on 10/18/2013 12:43:06 PM PDT by native texan (Texans should be independent thinkers)
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To: cotton1706

Vote out the RINOs!


19 posted on 10/18/2013 12:43:42 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Don Corleone

“I’ll bet the donations dry up so fast it will make the RNC HQ resemble the Sahara desert.”

Well, the donations will still come in from the rich-upper level supporters, and of course all the moderates. But they’ll definitely hear from the ordinary people that they won’t be giving another dime...ever! I love the surveys they send me, and give them hell. Though I only send them back when it’s postage paid. I don’t get calls anymore since I chewed them out.


20 posted on 10/18/2013 12:44:26 PM PDT by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

Like when did they have any? Not in my book. That is one of the many thousands of reasons I left the RINO party and refuse to give them a dime. I might give to an individual candidate, but not the party.


21 posted on 10/18/2013 12:45:22 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (I am proud to be a Christian and follower of my Lord Jesus Christ. Time is short for U to know Him!)
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To: RetiredArmy

You know the frauds on the left have conference calls each morning to discuss the days PROPAGANDA. This dude sounds like he was tapping their line.


22 posted on 10/18/2013 12:51:13 PM PDT by spawn44 (moo)
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To: jeffc
We need new GOP leadership.

With rare exception, nearly all who enter the DC beltway end up drifting left. It is the nature of popular government.

From the column: Senators, who serve six-year terms, spend most of their time in office immune from voters.

Our Fabulous Framers rolled in their graves when America made a huge mistake, the 17th amendment. Not only did it kick the states out of the federal government, it gave six year terms to elected officials. Both are anathema to the careful and superb system they created.

It is way past time to admit the error and restore federalism before it is too late.

23 posted on 10/18/2013 1:04:04 PM PDT by Jacquerie (An Article V amendment convention is our only hope.)
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To: Jacquerie

Yes, the 17th was a mistake, but it’s what the Socialists wanted: to dilute the power of the States. Democratic mobs are so much easier to stir up.


24 posted on 10/18/2013 1:31:21 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: cotton1706

Please steal my new tag line.


25 posted on 10/18/2013 1:32:58 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (HELL, NO!)
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To: cotton1706
...Mike Enzi (WY) and Pat Roberts (KS). Both are reliable, mainstream conservatives, yet neither have a record of seeking a fight or standing on principle

Says it all. As Sarah Palin might say, only dead fish go with the flow. We need more live ones. Anyone can vote right on a safe vote, but go AWOL when the vote really matters. Lets get someone who just might "stand on principle" once in awhile.

26 posted on 10/18/2013 1:41:29 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Dapper 26
Let's not replace a disgusting democrat Senator (Jay Rockefeller) with a squishy alleged republican.

Let's support constitutional conservative Pat McGeehan for US Senator from West Virginia

“I signed the ‘Don’t Fund Obamacare’ pledge with the Senate Conservatives Fund earlier last month and I stand by that pledge; a pledge that my opponent, Shelley Moore Capito, has yet to sign,” stated Pat McGeehan. “Doctors are being forced to retire early, while businesses are forced to reduce employees’ hours in West Virginia all due to the implementation of Obamacare. It’s time to take a stand and defund Obamacare today."

27 posted on 10/18/2013 1:58:00 PM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: cotton1706

The 2008 Romney campaign member, Liz Cheney, has promoted gay marriage, supported homosexualizing the military, opposed DOMA and an Amendment to protect marriage, and is pro-abortion with no pro-life statements to her name until this campaign.


28 posted on 10/18/2013 2:45:29 PM PDT by ansel12 (Don't be eyeballing those distant mountains boy, those are on federal land, and closed.)
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29 posted on 10/18/2013 7:33:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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