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2,393 Marylanders buy health insurance on state exchange
The Baltimore Sun ^ | October 18, 2013 | By Meredith Cohn

Posted on 10/19/2013 5:53:47 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Almost 2,400 Marylanders have bought insurance in the first 17 days that the state's new health care exchange has been open, according to new data released by the Maryland Health Connection.

Almost 34,900 have created accounts – a sticking point for many users.

The state also reported more than 23,100 have been told if they will receive subsidies to buy insurance.

(Excerpt) Read more at baltimoresun.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: exchanges; failure; maryland; obamacare; obamacrerollout; rinocare
Forward!!
1 posted on 10/19/2013 5:53:47 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

like one liberal reported stated this past WED on Fox News - - ALL OF AMERICA is signing up....wow, so like - America has only 10,000 Citizens....uhm....maybe he was referring to legal Citizens...


2 posted on 10/19/2013 5:55:56 AM PDT by BCW (Salva reipublicae)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I would say the only safe play for the insurance carriers is to back out of the exchanges. The death spiral should be obvious at this point. If the companies get stuck with only losing policies for an entire year (assuming the quit next year) they’ll be hurt badly.


3 posted on 10/19/2013 5:56:32 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

And curiously, they’re all named “Julia”.


4 posted on 10/19/2013 5:56:57 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Let’s see....

2,393 signed up out of a population of 5,900,000

They still have a way to go.....


5 posted on 10/19/2013 5:59:03 AM PDT by Iron Munro (When a killer screams 'Allahu Akbar' you don't need to be mystified about a motive.)
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To: tacticalogic

“And curiously, they’re all named “Julia”.

Good one!


6 posted on 10/19/2013 6:00:44 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This is great they are in...can’t wait to see what happens when they show up at the doctors office.

What you talkin bout, what is a $175.00 co-pay, they said I was covered...

Lady you have to go back and talk to your insurer, and good luck with that.


7 posted on 10/19/2013 6:03:12 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I didn’t read the whole article, just the excerpt.

Lets do the math... 2393 BOUGHT insurance (their claim)

“The State has told 23,100 have been told they will qualify for subsidies”

10:1 Supplemented vs. Payers is what I see. Unsustainable.


8 posted on 10/19/2013 6:04:57 AM PDT by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I would bet a majority of those 2400 are either pre-existing conditions or Medicaid transfers. Why else would a person struggle to get thru the maze of screens and errors?


9 posted on 10/19/2013 6:05:09 AM PDT by duckman (I'm part of the group pulling the wagon!)
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To: Gen.Blather
The insurance companies are already hurt badly. When they and the politicians they own got together and passed a system that gives Obama his mandate and insurance companies their imagined profits, we got the worst of both worlds. Now, they've spent all that money setting up their programs and they've destroyed the business they did have selling insurance by choice based on actuarial considerations. That could be why the corporate-elitist-globalist RINOs actually want Obamacare; their paymasters have found perceived ways to profit from it.

I agree with you. The insurance companies might be better off cutting their losses and backing out of the program. They're probably not going to have control of raising premiums in the future.

10 posted on 10/19/2013 6:12:18 AM PDT by grania
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The Obamacare figures are as believable as those issued by the Bureau of Labor Statistics or any other government source.


11 posted on 10/19/2013 6:12:21 AM PDT by relictele ("An elective despotism was not the government we fought for..." - James Madison)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Well then. That was worth $634 Million.


12 posted on 10/19/2013 6:12:40 AM PDT by csmusaret (Will remove Obama-Biden bumperstickers for $10)
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To: BCW

“ALL OF AMERICA is signing up”

Maybe he meant South America.


13 posted on 10/19/2013 6:23:15 AM PDT by Heart of Georgia
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To: grania

——The insurance companies might be better off cutting their losses and backing out -——

It would appear that my medicare advantage insurer United has done that. The process seems selective and not universal, but United has identified doctors, groups of doctor and hospitals that are not acceptable.

This practice is in effect here, in Connecticut and in California. My medical group has not renewed their contract with United. It is not clear who rejected whom but presently there is no contract. My hospital took out a full page ad followed by a full page united ad blaming others for problems. They resolved the issue and resumed working together.

That happened in ‘11 with my medical group and they went nearly to the wire before reaching agreement. I am hoping that will be the situationthis year.


14 posted on 10/19/2013 6:23:45 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: grania

The insurance companies made a pact with the devil and they are pretty much stuck with it.

Their eyes got very big when they learned that people were going to be forced to buy their product. What a deal, they thought.

Not working out to be much of a deal so far when the bulk of those enrolling are high risk or non-paying customers.


15 posted on 10/19/2013 6:25:56 AM PDT by randita
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To: bert

Does anyone know more about United? I thought they were endorsed by AARP a big fan of 0 care.


16 posted on 10/19/2013 6:34:20 AM PDT by lilypad
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To: Heart of Georgia; BCW

-——ALL OF AMERICA-——

Well, most of America is involved with employer provided plans that have been waived from the mandatory requirements for a year. We can assume that practically none of that most has signed up.

That leaves the rest. The rest consists of those who work and are uninsured and those who don’t work and are uninsured. Those who work have a sizeable component of those in the underground economy. They work but do so in cash, off the grid. Then there is a very large group that don’t vote. They are also off the primary grid.

To change, those off the grid must get on the grid. ....... I doubt it. Those tat don’t work will find it impossible to develop the skills, understanding and initiative to go to the trouble absent a gun at their head. Even if sick and perhaps in mortal danger, there might not be the motivation to join up.

When you actually look at the rest, subdivide it into various real components, weigh the various costs, including work required to sign up, compare what the rest actually does and doesn’t do, it seems that large percentages of the rest will simply ignore the falderal and do what is easy....... nothing.


17 posted on 10/19/2013 6:37:41 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

all from Baltimore??


18 posted on 10/19/2013 6:45:54 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: lilypad

In my view, United is the best of the best. They perform exceptionally well.

Regarding AARP, AARP is the largest of their sales agencies. AARP recognized the excellence in the United capabilities and selected them.

United has other local agents. If you are unable to perform the online selection and registration, you can deal with a local United agent. That agent may or not be an AARP local agent. The non AARP agent considers the AARP agent competition.

In my view, deciding to reject United because of AARP would be short sighted. To the contrary, the relation is a strength. AARP chose United over Humana or BCBS or Aetna or CIGNA because of perceived quality


19 posted on 10/19/2013 6:46:01 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
But that low volume is mostly a very bad thing for Obamacare, of course, since the viability of the exchanges depends on a certain size and demographic mix which cannot be attained unless these problems are resolved very quickly. I couldn’t get enrollment numbers from any of the people I spoke with, but I was told that the uptake model that HHS built (using CBO projections) to predict how the exchanges would work made a low-end estimate that just under half a million people would enroll nationwide by October 31st, and that enrollment would then accelerate dramatically between November 15 and December 30th. The October 31 target, which was thought to be modest, now looks essentially impossible to reach, but their bigger worry is that period in November and December.

The clown show ain't gonna work...

20 posted on 10/19/2013 6:48:30 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: bert

The government is full of psychopathic liars...especially those who make-up their “statistics”. I doubt if the real numbers are one tenth what they report. I’ll try to be positive: Maybe this time they aren’t lieing. Maybe today the sun will rise in the west. Maybe I’ll see a unicorn crapping flowers. Maybe...


21 posted on 10/19/2013 6:48:33 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: bert

Not neccessarily. AARP is in it for AARP.

Self perpetuation is their only concern. They choose not what’s best for their memebers but what’s best for themselves. If that happens to be a half a$$ed supplier that greases them the best then that’s who they’ll recommend.


22 posted on 10/19/2013 6:51:14 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: hal ogen

Pasting from my own post elsewhere:

Sally Satchelbottom (not her real name) works as a data analyst and compiler in a cubicle at the Bureau of Labor Statistics. She is a product of a full 17 years of our self-esteem ‘educational’ system, graduated with a degree in economics from State U where her professors revered Marx and thought Keynes was a right-winger. She couldn’t wait to get to the DC area and go to work (?) for Uncle Sam where she could ‘make a difference.’ She pays $2,000+/month for a 1,000 sq ft flat in a drab concrete high-rise built in the 60s. She regards any place west of Hagerstown MD and south of Richmond VA as Terra Incognita full of rednecks wearing criss-cross cartridge belts, armed to the teeth, listening to David Allen Coe, driving their pickup trucks to the cleaners to drop off their Klan robes after the weekly cross burning rally. Data she sees at work tells her these people have a wide variety of occupations but she believes it’s all a front for a secret highly organized militia movement.

Sally proudly drives a Prius with its COEXIST bumper sticker. She isn’t a lesbian (despite the few romantic advances that have come exclusively from hard-looking females) but has strongly considered adding a rainbow triangle sticker to show her solidarity with the gay movement. Sally didn’t date much in school (she’s pleasantly plump) so a photo of her nephews (who live in Indiana, Ohio or one of those other flyover states) in a school-project yarn frame hangs from her rearview mirror along with her Federal ID security badge which keeps those icky citizens out of the halls of government by the people, for the people and of the people. Security and all that, plus they might see what they’re getting in return for their taxes.

Sally is proud of the DC Metro and thinks that green public transport should be implemented everywhere especially in places she’s never been like Texas and Montana, which she hears are lawless, rebellious places that allow something called ‘freedom.’ But the Metro station is very crowded and noisy so she chooses to drive to work where she can sing along to Tori Amos, gridlocked on the Beltway along with thousands of kindred spirits who are committed to reducing emissions at all costs...in Iowa. She sees the empty HOV lane and swells with pride at 20% of the freeway lanes going unused. She shares a thumbs-up with a 400-lb man kissing his knees in a Smart car. Sally has contemplated stopping to get coffee and a bagel but the new staff don’t speak English at the place she used to visit and she can’t read the signs in Spanish and that scribbly Arabic. Still, she believes that diversity is strength and that America would be better off if our borders were thrown open. Needless to say, Sally voted for Obama. She’s contributed $100 to his campaign but hasn’t yet received her ‘O 2012’ reelection sticker but plans to get one from the pile on her coworker’s desk today. Finally, Sally reaches the office. She swipes her badge, sits at her desk and begins compiling Labor Statistics.

Now...what are the chances that Sally, her colleagues, and her like-minded bosses (appointed or elected) will produce numbers favorable to the Obama administration, no matter what manipulations of raw data and formulae are required? Why is government trusted for one single second to evaluate its own performance? It’s akin to giving an NFL head coach the scoreboard controls and telling him to ‘keep it close.’ Madness.


23 posted on 10/19/2013 7:11:35 AM PDT by relictele ("An elective despotism was not the government we fought for..." - James Madison)
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To: duckman

“Would bet a majority of those 2400 are either pre-existing conditions.”

Illinois citizens on the CHIP program have until mid December to sign up, because the program will be cancelled January 1.


24 posted on 10/19/2013 8:12:14 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I question the use of the word ‘bought’. I’d wager that most of those folks ended up in the expanded Medicaid program. No purchase required.


25 posted on 10/19/2013 10:26:02 AM PDT by pluvmantelo (The issue isn't the issue-power is the issue.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; Bigg Red; ...

So, did these people register to vote as Democrats while enrolling.

Oh, wait, this is Maryland, so they already are Democrats . . .

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


26 posted on 10/19/2013 1:10:02 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Major brain damage at UMES, but no property damage!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; Tolerance Sucks Rocks
How could that be since the system is down. H. L. Menken throwing up in his grave. Maybe old news, however, from the article:
"Maryland now has an estimated 800,000 uninsured residents, about 14 percent of the state’s 5.8 million residents. The state estimates about half of Maryland’s uninsured will have insurance by 2020."
Whay did the Maryland system cost to setup and run?
27 posted on 10/20/2013 4:42:06 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother (01-21-13, Obama declares war on The Constitution of the United States)
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