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Kasich Repeats Refuted Obamacare Talking Points at Cleveland Clinic
Media Trackers ^ | October 18, 2013 | Jason Hart

Posted on 10/19/2013 11:45:08 AM PDT by george76

John Kasich repeated his well-worn routine of calling billions in new federal spending “our money” and insisting the Obamacare Medicaid expansion is “what the Lord wants” during a speech this morning at the Cleveland Clinic.

“It’s our money! This is not, like, somebody else’s money,” Gov. Kasich said of the Obamacare Medicaid expansion funding he seeks to spend in Ohio...

this — like other talking points the Republican governor has used to justify his flight from fiscal responsibility — is not true.

“Bringing our dollars back and helping these people to get their lives back is so right,” Kasich said later in his Cleveland Clinic speech. Over the course of approximately 20 minutes, Kasich made variations of this false claim a total of 5 times.

Robert Alt of The Buckeye Institute, Michael Cannon of Cato Institute, Matt Mayer of Opportunity Ohio, Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal, and even Dennis Smith, who served as director of the national Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) under President George W. Bush, have all refuted Kasich’s deceptive description of how the Obamacare Medicaid expansion works.

With billions per year in taxpayer money at stake, at no point during the 8-month fight over the Obamacare expansion has any member of Ohio’s legacy press acknowledged this.

After attesting to how easy his decision on Medicaid expansion was because of his religious faith, Kasich said that critics “don’t understand the problem” the Obamacare expansion will address.

“This is not a program designed to encourage dependency,” Gov. Kasich said defensively.

(Excerpt) Read more at mediatrackers.org ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: Ohio; US: Pennsylvania; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: abortion; clevelandclinic; deathpanels; exchanges; johnkasich; kasich; medicaid; medicaidexpansion; obamacare; ohio; zerocare

1 posted on 10/19/2013 11:45:08 AM PDT by george76
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To: george76

Hey Kasich — your spine called, in case you were looking for it.


2 posted on 10/19/2013 11:48:00 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: george76

What has happened to Kasich?


3 posted on 10/19/2013 11:48:00 AM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: george76

Sounds like a Big Government lovin’ e-GOPer’s philosophy.


4 posted on 10/19/2013 11:50:08 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Las Vegas Dave; neverdem; Clintonfatigued

John Kasich requested the Ohio Controlling Board appropriate Obamacare funds for Medicaid expansion, an attempt to circumvent the General Assembly for billions in new entitlement funding from DC.

In June, Kasich used a line-item veto to override the General Assembly’s clear intent.

His attempted end run around the legislature is the starkest evidence to date that John Kasich, who was elected in 2010 as a limited government conservative, is less interested in freedom than in “free” money.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3078133/posts


5 posted on 10/19/2013 11:51:16 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: ConjunctionJunction

Hmmm. Always been speculation as to which way he rolls......


6 posted on 10/19/2013 11:51:43 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: george76

I’ve heard Barry called “the messiah” before but this is the first time I’ve heard him referred to using the pre-Revolutionary War term, “lord”.


7 posted on 10/19/2013 11:52:08 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Hold on to your sombrero! Here comes amnesty! The GOP is on a roll!)
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To: george76

Well, it’s for damned sure not the government’s money. Socialism only works until you run out of other people’s money. There’s not enough money in the entire world to do what Obama wants to do. We’re all going to end up living in poverty (well, except for the ruling class elites of course).


8 posted on 10/19/2013 11:54:34 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: george76

Gingrich thought Kasich was just about the dumbest person he had in his caucus.


9 posted on 10/19/2013 11:54:41 AM PDT by allendale
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To: george76

Kasich is sooo done!


10 posted on 10/19/2013 11:59:23 AM PDT by griswold3 (Post-Christian America is living on borrowed moral heritage)
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To: george76
When the chips are down, Kasich can always be counted on to side with the left.

He craves the admiration of the popular kids.

11 posted on 10/19/2013 12:02:50 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: griswold3

And I believe you would rather see a Democrat running Ohio than Kasich.


12 posted on 10/19/2013 12:05:29 PM PDT by paul544
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To: paul544
And I believe you would rather see a Democrat running Ohio than Kasich.

What's the difference?

13 posted on 10/19/2013 12:05:52 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: george76

It is your state’s money when the federal Medicaid subsidy goes away in e few years.


14 posted on 10/19/2013 12:09:00 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: paul544

At least a Democrat wouldn’t be so sneaky about it. I’ve had my fill of ‘compassionate conservatives’ for a lifetime. There is no meat left on the bone.


15 posted on 10/19/2013 12:13:09 PM PDT by griswold3 (Post-Christian America is living on borrowed moral heritage)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks george76.
...insisting the Obamacare Medicaid expansion is “what the Lord wants... After attesting to how easy his decision on Medicaid expansion was because of his religious faith, Kasich said that critics "don't understand the problem" the Obamacare expansion will address. "This is not a program designed to encourage dependency,"...
...not designed ONLY to encourage dependency...


16 posted on 10/19/2013 12:13:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: Jim Robinson
We’re all going to end up living in poverty (well, except for the ruling class elites of course).

Followed by a rebirth of the guillotine? Although plain rope is cheaper and more readily available.

17 posted on 10/19/2013 12:15:01 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: george76; Servant of the Cross

SOTC: here’s a “Kasich’s testosterone bypass operation was a success” ping.....


18 posted on 10/19/2013 12:21:29 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: george76

It’s NOT our money.

It’s NOT the “government’s” money.

It’s “money” borrowed against our offsprings’ future.


19 posted on 10/19/2013 12:24:20 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (-)
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To: griswold3

So vote for a Democrat then.


20 posted on 10/19/2013 12:31:45 PM PDT by paul544
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To: george76; All
Before constitutionally clueless Kasich speaks on the Lord's behalf, he needs to wise up to what the Constitution that the Lord blessed this nation with actually indicates about "government" power to address healthcare issues.

Given the remote possibility that some freepers aren't aware of this, not only did Justice John Marshall officially clarify that the states have never delegated to Congress, via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate public healthcare, healthcare a 10th Amendment-protected state power issue, but also that Congress is prohibited from laying taxes in the name of state power issues.

"State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress. (emphases added)" --Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States." --Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

So although Kasich is right about Obamacare funds being "our money," he is evidently clueless to the idea that "our money" should never have left the state in the first place. Given Justice Marshall's words, Kasich should be arguing that, by accepting Obamacare funding, he is recovering state revenues which corrupt Congress stole from Ohio citizens in the form of unconstitutional federal taxes.

21 posted on 10/19/2013 12:45:56 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: george76
The "deflation" that the liberal economists have feared, they will now get with the ObamaCare for which they voted, as the cost of health care leaps and takes away the opportunity to buy a house.

Congratulations all the way around the greedy blood-sucking limousine liberal fantasy "land."

The $200 to $1,000+ that prospective home buyers would otherwise have for monthly payments - *particularly in California* - will go to pay for 0-care, The New Money Pit.

22 posted on 10/19/2013 12:47:54 PM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: george76
Funny neither party wants to do appearances at the Surgery Center of Oklahoma.

Got to defend that cartel pricing at all costs - campaign contributions depend on it.

23 posted on 10/19/2013 12:51:20 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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24 posted on 10/19/2013 12:52:59 PM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: ConjunctionJunction
What has happened to Kasich?

Blackmail? Details never came out (that I recall), but didn't it come out during the Chandra Levy thing that Kasich hung -- socially -- with Gary Condit and with a pretty dodgy bunch. There were rumblings of rumors, but then the 9/11 attacks came, and everything else pretty much dropped off the radar.

25 posted on 10/19/2013 1:00:50 PM PDT by maryz
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To: george76

There was a time I thought this guy had big political ambitions (although eyebrows always go up when some “rising star” suddenly ups and quits congress). Clearly, Kasich is stopping right where he is. Like other spineless Republican governors who took the bait of temporary medicaid money from the feds, Kasich will be long gone when the money runs out and the next guy has to worry about big cuts (or big taxes, if the next guy is a rat).


26 posted on 10/19/2013 1:02:59 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: george76

I am glad to know that the fourth and fifth generation of lifelong welfare recipients in Georgia will now be moving to Ohio to stay connected to the gravy train. Good riddance.


27 posted on 10/19/2013 1:33:55 PM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: george76
The federal teat keeps the state in line.

Imho, the 16th and 17th amendments doomed us at their ratification.

5.56mm

28 posted on 10/19/2013 1:42:27 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: george76

One of the purposes of Obamacare/RINOcare is to expand Medicaid. After all, folks like the Gov think it’s “free” money.


29 posted on 10/19/2013 1:59:35 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: ConjunctionJunction

“What has happened to Kasich?”

Retaining power in a State headed towards a Blue population


30 posted on 10/19/2013 2:14:02 PM PDT by DAC21
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To: DAC21

Yeah...because the liberals who like this garbage are going to vote for Kasich over the Dem. Now conservatives will bail on him and liberals will flock to the Dem.

He’s an idiot.


31 posted on 10/19/2013 2:34:28 PM PDT by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: All

Those states who had the sense to say “no” to Medicaid expansion will come out as the smart ones.

When folks sign up and see the “sticker shock” they’ll soon be relieved to be amazingly qualified for Medicaid. Medicaid rolls will expand big time.

Those states who accepted Medicaid expansion will soon find their 90/10 obligation skyrocket. When the feds back out of the deal (which they will) those states will be left holding the bag.

Suckers!!!!


32 posted on 10/19/2013 3:29:57 PM PDT by Kolath
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To: martin_fierro

“Hey Kasich — your spine called, in case you were looking for it.”

Not to mention, In Ohio we passed a citizen voted Constitutional Amendment barring any compliance with Obamacare.

[...Issue 3 adds an amendment to the Ohio state constitution stating that “no law or rule shall compel, directly or indirectly, any person, employer, or health care provider to participate in a health care system.”

Quit pimping the state for a place at the federal teet Kasich!


33 posted on 10/19/2013 3:46:49 PM PDT by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: ConjunctionJunction

When someone tells you something that GOD wants and it is not in the Bible... well GOD told us what to do... read the Bible and do it. Get the from me kasich!


34 posted on 10/19/2013 4:33:33 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Oh Lord preserve us!

My governor is a moron, a useful idiot, or a RINO.

Enjoy your kool-aid, governor, and watch your state burn without jobs or coal.


35 posted on 10/19/2013 6:41:18 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: TheOldLady

Dittos!!!


36 posted on 10/20/2013 6:36:23 AM PDT by Las Vegas Dave (The Democratic party preys on the ignorant..!)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

That was a vote I wish I could take back.


37 posted on 10/20/2013 7:08:56 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: george76

Money for the poor taken at gunpoint is NOT equivalent to the Biblical teaching on charity.


38 posted on 10/20/2013 11:30:05 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: ConjunctionJunction
"Social Justice"= "We're telling you to do what we say Jesus said and having the government make sure you do it"

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39 posted on 10/23/2013 4:19:05 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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