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Premiums for young healthy people will jump in 45 states under Obamacare
The Washington Examiner ^ | October 19, 2013 | Joel Gehrke

Posted on 10/19/2013 6:19:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Young people in 45 states will see their health insurance premiums increase under Obamacare because the law relies on the money they pay into the system to offset the cost of caring for older enrollees, according to a new study.

Virginia leads the pack, as individuals aged 27 and under will see their health insurance premiums jump by 252.5 percent -- $416.55 -- according to the Heritage Foundation's Center for Data Analysis.

Virginians under the age of 50 will see their premiums jump by an even greater percentage, rising from $228 to $991.03.

Such increases are not a surprise to the law's architects. “I have always said when looking at this bill, that if I were a young person, I can see elements of this bill that I wouldn't like in the short run,” Henry Aaron, vice chairman of the D.C. health exchange, told the Washington Examiner last November.

Heritage expects monthly premiums for young people to drop in Colorado, Ohio, New York, Rhode Island, and New Jersey, "because those states had already over-regulated insurance markets that led to sharply higher premiums through adverse selection," according to study author Drew Gonshorowski....

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: aca; exchanges; obama; obamacare; obamacareanecdote; obamacarechart; obamacarepremiums; obamacarerollout; socializedmedicine; youngadults
45 out of 57, what percentage is that?
1 posted on 10/19/2013 6:19:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Lets see if they think voting for messiah and his leftie ilk was such a good thing. Maybe they will believe this is Busch’s fault.


2 posted on 10/19/2013 6:22:59 PM PDT by MtnClimber (Up is down, wrong is right, 0bama care is cheap.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

NationalReport.net’s headline...

Democrats Confused: “I had no idea I’d be paying for Obamacare myself.”

http://nationalreport.net/


3 posted on 10/19/2013 6:25:24 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s not a premium, it’s a tax. If anyone actually believes based on the numbers we’re seeing that this has anything to do with healthcare rather than being the single biggest tax increase in history then they should seek medical attention.


4 posted on 10/19/2013 6:27:33 PM PDT by TheZMan (Buy more ammo.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Anyone who doesn’t think we’re living in Atlas Shrugged’es world of looters needs to share whatever he’s drinking.


5 posted on 10/19/2013 6:27:35 PM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be purchased and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They voted for change....they got it.....Enjoy!


6 posted on 10/19/2013 6:28:12 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
 


7 posted on 10/19/2013 6:29:02 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well 57, plus two or three he hadn’t been to... so that’s what, 47/60?


8 posted on 10/19/2013 6:30:26 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: RWB Patriot

18 yr old Glenlivet?

not that it keeps me from thinking this is communism, it just numbs me to it. a little


9 posted on 10/19/2013 6:33:53 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: RWB Patriot

I get grief from several when I mention AS or Ayn Rand. They think all is well in the Potemkin village.


10 posted on 10/19/2013 6:36:37 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No, it will jump in all 57 states.


11 posted on 10/19/2013 6:45:30 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Virginians under the age of 50 will see their premiums jump by an even greater percentage, rising from $228 to $991.03.

Sorry, but who can afford that? $12,000 per year. And then you have to pay the deductible before the insurance kicks in. This is robbery, pain and simple. And it will be turning the young people against the old folks.

12 posted on 10/19/2013 6:53:12 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh, it’s just money. It’s not like they wanted to buy appliances or houses or cars.

From each according to his paycheck. To each according to his position in the Democrat party.

Karl had it a little wrong.


13 posted on 10/19/2013 6:58:20 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: blueunicorn6

This is a test for who’s a coward and who’s not.

Ted Cruz may seem quixotic, but a coward he is not.


14 posted on 10/19/2013 6:59:33 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: dennisw

Don’t know about this chart. I’m in CO, over 50, and my family went from $1k/month to $1800 for less coverage.


15 posted on 10/19/2013 7:00:35 PM PDT by CA_soon_gone
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To: rawhide

I can’t believe how high the rates in Va are. That is astounding.


16 posted on 10/19/2013 7:08:23 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: rawhide
$228 was 4 times my first house payment.

$991 was my last house payment.

Health insurance should be $12 per month, gasoline should be $0.25 per gallon and cigarettes should be $0.25 per pack.

That's more than what the providers make. The rest is stolen by government.

17 posted on 10/19/2013 7:10:54 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: TheZMan

It’s a tax, and it is a wealth transfer. Do not doubt that was the primary motivation from the beginning.


18 posted on 10/19/2013 7:10:55 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Premiums for young healthy people will jump in 45 states under Obamacare..."

....... That's a pretty good talking point .... that is that Premiums "Will Jump" ... in 2014!!

.... a more powerful talking point is that not only will these premiums JUMP in 2014 ..... THEY WILL ALSO BE MANDATORY!!!! This fact is not being driven home enough by the warriors fighting against the propagandized and deceptively named Affordable Healthcare Act. Most of the population still think this monolithic insurance monstrosity Will be FREE! Heck .... most of the electorate doesn't even realize yet that it will hit the majority of them and us in the pocket book. They absolutely need to know that those of us that are fighting against the so called Obamacare .... are actually fighting for their own financial well being and to save them all from the coming financial monthly expenditure that they currently don't pay.

... Never forget that .... "People have a tendency to vote with their pocket book."

.... Remember the massive outrage against the small ATM tax that was about to be levied by the banks a few years ago? This will be a thousand times worse for most.

19 posted on 10/19/2013 7:19:21 PM PDT by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The youngsters got their “revenge” on the geezers by voting for Barry. Now Barry is taking his “revenge” out on them. Karma.


20 posted on 10/19/2013 7:20:04 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Hold on to your sombrero! Here comes amnesty! The GOP is on a roll!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
the law relies on the money they pay into the system to offset the cost of caring for older enrollees

From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.

21 posted on 10/19/2013 7:25:09 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The important thing is that those 5 states got a good deal..
The other 45 don't count.
22 posted on 10/19/2013 7:52:12 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My 22 year old daughter was paying $114 a month with a $2800 deductible. Meds were at no cost.

She just learned that by keeping her payment the same she will have a $4000 deductible and meds are not covered.

She is pretty pissed.

Oh, just for the record she thinks 0bama is a crook and thinks Cruz rocks.


23 posted on 10/19/2013 8:00:18 PM PDT by Gamecock (Many Atheists take the stand: "There is no God AND I hate Him.")
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To: MtnClimber

They will be told it’s the fault of greedy insurance companies that “their president” is trying to reign in. And they will still believe!


24 posted on 10/19/2013 8:03:33 PM PDT by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs have spoken: "It's Jebbie's turn!" to LOSE!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Yes, but their intellect is too underdeveloped to understand what is happening.


25 posted on 10/19/2013 8:04:34 PM PDT by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs have spoken: "It's Jebbie's turn!" to LOSE!)
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To: USNBandit

VA people think high taxes are the price of “good government”.


26 posted on 10/19/2013 8:05:22 PM PDT by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs have spoken: "It's Jebbie's turn!" to LOSE!)
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To: rawhide

The young people are too undereducated to figure out much of anything.


27 posted on 10/19/2013 8:05:57 PM PDT by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs have spoken: "It's Jebbie's turn!" to LOSE!)
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To: driftdiver

It is humorous to see young communists find out about communism, but they were too blind to see what is happening.


28 posted on 10/19/2013 8:06:57 PM PDT by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs have spoken: "It's Jebbie's turn!" to LOSE!)
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To: TheZMan

You’d be surprised how many of the American truly think the administration is looking after people “like me.”


29 posted on 10/19/2013 8:08:15 PM PDT by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs have spoken: "It's Jebbie's turn!" to LOSE!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good. Let them get a piece of the action. They wanted a Black president. Let them enjoy him. The only fly in the ointment is that he is not Black.


30 posted on 10/19/2013 8:09:30 PM PDT by sport
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To: sport

He’s not even as black as George Zimmerman, of all people.


31 posted on 10/19/2013 8:13:18 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Obama's favorite game is Pin the Fail on the Honkey!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama Care will have most Americans deciding between buying health-care and food.


32 posted on 10/19/2013 8:58:12 PM PDT by Cruz_West_Paul2016
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To: rawhide

“...turn the young people against the old folks...”

That’s the idea.

Keep us segmented and fighting with one another.

No one notices that the 1%’ers are vampires, sucking the life out of the nation.


33 posted on 10/19/2013 9:13:56 PM PDT by warchild9
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
individuals aged 27 and under will see their health insurance premiums jump by 252.5 percent -- $416.55 -

My 52 year old single daughter was notified last week by her insurance agency that her medical insurance premium will increase by $100 per month in December. That's on top of the $50 increase that she was hit with a couple of months ago, but I haven't found any information on the web as to whether or not that $50 increase was due to Obamacare.

And to make the Obamacare disaster even worse, I fully expect many more increases as Obamacare goes into full swing. I also expect that medical insurance will become more expensive every following year until Obamacare crashes and burns as planned. Then it will be replaced by all-out socialized medicine, and I believe that's the ultimate outcome that Obama's gang of radical leftists planned for all along. After that happens I wonder where wealthy Canadians and Europeans will go for their serious medical procedures, Saudi Arabia? Israel? Dubai perhaps? One thing I'm pretty sure of, they won't come here because our fully socialized health care system will be even more overloaded and understaffed than theirs.

34 posted on 10/19/2013 9:35:59 PM PDT by epow
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Is it my imagination that the states that voted for him have lower to none increases!


35 posted on 10/20/2013 7:49:34 AM PDT by Die_Hard Conservative Lady (When all the working class leave California what will be left?)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

You do realize that nationalreport.com is a satire site, right?


36 posted on 10/20/2013 8:18:27 AM PDT by Bob
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Virginia leads the pack, as individuals aged 27 and under will see their health insurance premiums jump by 252.5 percent -- $416.55 -- according to the Heritage Foundation's Center for Data Analysis. Virginians under the age of 50 will see their premiums jump by an even greater percentage, rising from $228 to $991.03.

"I don't see the problem. Obama said that people would save $2500/year, and that you could keep your own doctor.

And yes, I would love to sign up for Obamacare if I could."

--Jay Carney

37 posted on 10/20/2013 8:21:08 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Die_Hard Conservative Lady

The states that have the lowest increases are liberal cesspits whose insurance rates had already been pushed up by government at the stste level. They were pre-screwed so Obamacare increases are just more of the same.


38 posted on 10/20/2013 8:25:42 AM PDT by Bob
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To: R_Kangel
Good points all.

The Republicans' inability to formulate a simple message is breathtaking. This is a slam-dunk, using a 10 ft. ladder.

39 posted on 10/20/2013 8:28:21 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Die_Hard Conservative Lady
Is it my imagination that the states that voted for him have lower to none increases!

And guess what? The entire state of Nevada, Gollum's state, is EXEMPT.

40 posted on 10/20/2013 8:32:50 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There was an insurance guy on a show the other night (don’t remember which one) who said what he is seeing is 1 out of 10 people see premiums drop. The other 9....increased premiums.


41 posted on 10/20/2013 8:40:08 AM PDT by sheana
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To: Bob

Yep!


42 posted on 10/20/2013 9:40:18 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: dennisw

What are the changes to Deductibles and Co-pays?

Me thinks that Chart in and of itself is a bit misleading.


43 posted on 10/20/2013 9:43:31 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Good news, Federal Funding for my Tagline has been restored. Crisis averted.)
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To: Die_Hard Conservative Lady

Dunno but it would seem to make sense. The Democrats’ first priority is to keep their constituents well sopped. Because worldly bribes are all they have to offer. As far as true godly good is concerned, they bat a zero.


44 posted on 10/20/2013 11:37:34 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Bob

Have you seen this one?

http://accredited-times.com/

Hilarious!


45 posted on 10/20/2013 1:41:09 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Thanks for the link. That site looks hilarious.


46 posted on 10/20/2013 2:14:08 PM PDT by Bob
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To: Bob
Don't forget to post this pic when it is appropriate on some other thread.


47 posted on 10/20/2013 2:21:47 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: CA_soon_gone

I definitely am not believing those CO numbers.


48 posted on 10/20/2013 2:41:36 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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