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Pot legalization effort moves eastward to Maine
FoxNews.com/AP ^ | 10/18/20163

Posted on 10/19/2013 6:46:59 PM PDT by RoosterRedux

Advocates of recreational marijuana use are looking to an upcoming vote in Maine as an indicator of whether the East Coast is ready to follow in the footsteps of Colorado and Washington by legalizing cannabis.

Voters in Portland are being asked whether they want to make it legal for adults 21 and over to possess -- but not purchase or sell -- up to 2.5 ounces of pot. The Nov. 5 vote is being eyed nationally as momentum grows in favor of legalizing marijuana use.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Maine
KEYWORDS: libertarians; maine; maybealittleblow; maybealittlemaryjane; medicalmarijuana
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I think pot is a waste of good brain power, but I also think it is a waste of money to make it illegal.
1 posted on 10/19/2013 6:46:59 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux
As a math major, I know that alcohol is poison (but I still love beer)...and pot would turn our world into mindless dullards if everyone smoked it.

But everyone won't...and social Darwinism will still reign.

Probably not a bad idea to make driving under the influence illegal tho.

2 posted on 10/19/2013 6:50:06 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: RoosterRedux
It's all about freedom of choice. Do you want a cup of coffee, tea, beer, or herb?

A large percent of our population has no clue about God's first gift. Even worse, they believe the lies of the accuser, and persecute their brother.

3 posted on 10/19/2013 6:50:31 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall ; / ?)
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To: RoosterRedux

A drunk will run a stop sign. A pothead stops and waits for it to turn green.


4 posted on 10/19/2013 6:51:22 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: rawcatslyentist
A large percent of our population has no clue about God's first gift. Even worse, they believe the lies of the accuser, and persecute their brother.

Well, you have to admit...life gets complicated when the freedom of choice is involved.

5 posted on 10/19/2013 6:52:47 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: RoosterRedux

America 2013, land of dopeheads, degenerates and faggots.

Less and less interest in preserving this decaying republic each and every day.


6 posted on 10/19/2013 6:58:09 PM PDT by greene66
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To: RoosterRedux
Well, you have to admit...life gets complicated when the freedom of choice is involved.

So are you chalking that up as a win for tyranny?

7 posted on 10/19/2013 7:05:52 PM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: greene66
There was once a time when the Republic was about personal freedoms (and with that came personal responsibility). You should re-evaluate your idea of a republic.

It may come as a surprise to you, but some of the founders smoked marijuana. You would probably be surprised who around you smoke that you haven't the first clue about. Not everyone that partakes of the plant is non-productive just like not everyone that drinks is a full blown alcoholic.

8 posted on 10/19/2013 7:06:44 PM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: greene66
God didn't outlaw sin...he gave it to humans as an alternative which had eternal (but negative) consequences.

If God didn't make it illegal (He permits it), why shouldn't we?

Murder? Yes. We should fight it.

But sins of self-indulgence? Shouldn't each man choose on his own whether or not to obey God.

9 posted on 10/19/2013 7:07:27 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: greene66
Less and less interest in preserving this decaying republic each and every day.

The interest will pick up when we hit bottom. Other nations will have a vested interest in sucking the life out of this country when it is in utter chaos.

10 posted on 10/19/2013 7:07:39 PM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: BipolarBob

Perhaps you should clarify (if you sincerely seek an answer).


11 posted on 10/19/2013 7:08:32 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: greene66

Hemp was never a threat to the republic. It’s prohibition was and is a sham.


12 posted on 10/19/2013 7:08:49 PM PDT by IDFbunny
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To: Ghost of SVR4
I agree with you in that the more we define the activities of man (as productive and non-productive), the more progress we will make.

Blind ignorance is never far behind us.

13 posted on 10/19/2013 7:11:17 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: IDFbunny

You’re right about that. It is a schedule 1 “drug” in the same category as heroin and opium. Those are derivatives (i.e., manufactured and refined) from another substance. Marijuana is just a plant and besides its use for altering reality, it has HEAVY industrial uses that could directly benefit the United States by creating jobs and industry.


14 posted on 10/19/2013 7:13:29 PM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: RoosterRedux

In fact let’s carry it on. What carries the spirit of the Lord and what carries the devil.

The stark fact is that INANIMATE OBJECTS can be used by LIVING HUMANS for EITHER purpose. A drug, a gun, a tool, or what have you. Stereotyping objects as evil only stultifies freedom.


15 posted on 10/19/2013 7:15:09 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Ghost of SVR4

There are low/no THC varieties of the stuff that are used for rope, etc. hemp today. Still. I’ve myself long stood for not stereotyping inanimate objects.


16 posted on 10/19/2013 7:16:10 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

No the legalization of the object is evil. Putting the stamp of approval of society on something like that is horrible.

Just because some freepers want to drag their kids to Potfest, jeesh


17 posted on 10/19/2013 7:16:19 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: RoosterRedux

I don’t think it is so much any of “us” defining the activities of man, I think it is the government acting in such as way that “classes” of man (and woman) are not held to consequence for the actions. When we can actually get back to personal responsibility (i.e., answering for bad decisions made) applied evenly across the board, problems tend to take care of themselves. All we are left with today is a government that coddles bad behavior and I can very well see why it pisses a LOT of people off; especially people who are doing everything right with no recognition.


18 posted on 10/19/2013 7:17:45 PM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: GeronL

I’m sorry, you have a completely unbiblical mindset.

What changed between 1900 and today.

We have scape goating on the inanimate, pure and simple. And you are so blinkered you cannot see it. This is the thinking of pussy cats. Not of lion hearts.


19 posted on 10/19/2013 7:18:35 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: GeronL

And I mean pussy cats. They are scared when no one even pursues, at any blowing leaf. (Looking up the verse is left for an exercise.)


20 posted on 10/19/2013 7:21:07 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Believe it or not, you and I have crossed threads when I was under a different screen name. I don’t disagree with you at all; I already know your stance. No objections from me.
As to the recreational side, there must be a 100 laws on the books already that could cover someone/anyone doing something wrong while under the influence of marijuana (or more importantly as you noted, THC). To me, it’s scheduled 1 to help keep a police state going these days. I don’t think it is good AT ALL for minors our young people (I believe it introduces arrested development) but to deny keeping it illegal only increases the black market and the pushing on our youth is crazy...My opinion only of course.


21 posted on 10/19/2013 7:22:16 PM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: GeronL

Well... actually I owe an apology to all members of the species Felis catus. They are not as cowardly.


22 posted on 10/19/2013 7:22:45 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: greene66

agree, this is what happens when the far left take power and it is high time the GOP understand that the far radical left inly cares about their social agenda


23 posted on 10/19/2013 7:24:13 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Ghost of SVR4

yea personal freedom , , what like public sex with animals.

The far left would love that but do you too?


24 posted on 10/19/2013 7:25:21 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Ghost of SVR4

It stultifies personal responsibility to try to keep people in rubber rooms in the long term.

The real energy of righteousness is not government, it is not even society. It is God. Always has been, always will be. God generates love. These other entities, at best, can pass it on. Love (in this fallen creation) is something like 10 parts no to 100 parts yes. Government is real good at the no. The yes is up to us — and any way you slice it, we have shirked. If your only tool is a hammer, everything will look like a nail.


25 posted on 10/19/2013 7:27:02 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Ghost of SVR4

yea weed is just a plant, and heroin is not so it is OK right, oh wait you smoke those drugs and with your answer is it alright for magic mushrooms, too?


26 posted on 10/19/2013 7:27:08 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: RoosterRedux

I wouldn’t mind so much if I didn’t end up supporting all the losers

of course, when you’re starring at CHRONIC 17% unemployment... the best thing to do is drop life expectations, get everyone stoned, and feed them cheap govt pizza

welcome to the democrat ‘plan’


27 posted on 10/19/2013 7:27:50 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: manc

And God reaches His hands to dignify you all day long and you refuse... you got everything backwards. You don’t ban a society into righteousness. You boost it.


28 posted on 10/19/2013 7:28:08 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Ghost of SVR4

what was your username before you were banned then?


29 posted on 10/19/2013 7:28:46 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: sten

And why are you sitting idle and not canvassing for God (aka evangelism)???


30 posted on 10/19/2013 7:29:27 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

some are against making drugs legal and giving druggies their open drug use because some might have seen what drugs do to those closets but also to others who were hurt in the process of drug use.


31 posted on 10/19/2013 7:30:26 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: manc

And these same people refuse to evangelize, the thing that will most likely result in people not WANTING to abuse themselves in such a fashion.

WHY IS AN EFFECTIVE GOD ONLY FOUND IN THE ROOMS OF 12 STEP GROUPS?!?!?

ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


32 posted on 10/19/2013 7:32:10 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: sten
get everyone stoned, and feed them cheap govt pizza

Based on this (and I believe this is true)...the democratic plan is gonna fail miserably.

33 posted on 10/19/2013 7:35:11 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I’ll even answer my own question! Because there are so many blasted stereotypes about what evangelizing is. If you don’t have the nerve to speak well to your neighbor about the Lord who has done so much for you, at least you can support other evangelists who DO. Evangelism is selling God, and it doesn’t have to be as blatant as a hellfire sell, though that is good in certain circumstances. God blesses, and if God has blessed you and you share that, people will want to be blessed as well. Really, God has gotten a lousy rap when He has made this entire creation. Argh, we are the silly ones.


34 posted on 10/19/2013 7:38:05 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: manc
what like public sex with animals.

Straw man.

What's wrong with you that your mind swayed immediately to bestiality? Sick. I'll illustrate one a little bit better than you. What if you like bench pressing 400lbs. Your personal decision, right? What if a bunch of people got together and restricted your access to the weights so you could not bench 400? Let's call it a public safety concern. Can't have you running around potentially able to harm others because of your personal choice so from here on out, weights are illegal. Think its too far outside the realm of possibility? Okay, you have a 500hp vehicle. That can definitely do some damage if you choose to open it up. Let's outlaw those engines. My point is, we have strayed from personal responsibility. You don't like a plant, your choice. Don't get all liberal and tell others what they can and should do; you want the "state" to impose your views on others while you ridicule liberals of doing exactly of what you advocate, state control of another human being.

35 posted on 10/19/2013 7:40:19 PM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Marijuana = gateway drug


36 posted on 10/19/2013 7:43:25 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: Ghost of SVR4

And... strayed from the God to whom we are responsible.

We assume society will run itself if we just manage to ban what needs to be banned.

NOT!!!!

God is the fuel, the energy, the power. God is love and this is no wimpy smooching this is the heart of the Lion of Judah! Keeping the whole creation going!

Everyone has their head so crammed into NO that they can’t see the YES.


37 posted on 10/19/2013 7:44:04 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: cloudmountain

cloudmountain = clueless about what it actually is to receive the love of God.


38 posted on 10/19/2013 7:44:33 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Ghost of SVR4

yea yea, straw man, funny how you liberals avoid such issues .

Again before you were banned on here what was your username and why keep coming back after you;ve been banned.?


39 posted on 10/19/2013 7:47:09 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: manc
yea weed is just a plant, and heroin is not so it is OK right, oh wait you smoke those drugs and with your answer is it alright for magic mushrooms, too?

May come as a shock to you, but I don't smoke marijuana. I did at one time and decided it was not right for me so I quit. End of story (that little personal responsibility thing I mentioned earlier).
Psilocybin is again up to the individual and as marijuana is not physically addictive. 151 proof alcohol is cool to sell to a wet behind the ears 21 year old though, right? You're cool with that? It can kill the individual (even first time user) with more effectiveness than a plant or fungi.

40 posted on 10/19/2013 7:47:39 PM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: manc

Yeah, we liberals actually dare to refer to the love of God shed liberally abroad (I much more explicitly than Ghost, but still even Ghost is at least aware of what you cannot see past your nose).


41 posted on 10/19/2013 7:49:33 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Ghost of SVR4

you seem lost.

Now I pointed out to you about magic mushrooms as you said weed is just a plant but you can’t equate the two because of what YOU WANT.

When I say lost I mean you were banned on here, you come back as another name and still think this is a liberal website, sorry in your case a liberaltarian site.


42 posted on 10/19/2013 7:50:42 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
HiTech RedNeck:
1. I would REALLY be worried if you agreed with me. Thank you. Nothing HiTech about you except your ability to make NASTY on the web.

2. Also you have the unmitigated GALL to judge ME about receiveing the love of God. Who are YOU to judge how, when, where and why God gives His love to me? Wow, you have put some of those seven deadly ones to full use, I think. Lol. Imagine YOU assuming that I don't know God's love.

43 posted on 10/19/2013 7:51:03 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

I merely point out that you display all the signs of refusing the love. God is shining His love at you right now. YOU are saying no to it.


44 posted on 10/19/2013 7:51:43 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: RoosterRedux
As a math major, I know that alcohol is poison (but I still love beer)...and pot would turn our world into mindless dullards if everyone smoked it. But everyone won't...and social Darwinism will still reign.
Probably not a bad idea to make driving under the influence illegal tho.

Well put.

45 posted on 10/19/2013 7:51:58 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

You would have recognized the nature of sex sin at once if you really knew that love any more than nominally skin deep. What change has Jesus made in YOUR life? I dare you. He rescued me from deep, deep sin.


46 posted on 10/19/2013 7:52:44 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Repeat Offender
A drunk will run a stop sign. A pothead stops and waits for it to turn green.

Hahaha! Thanks for the laugh. SO true!

47 posted on 10/19/2013 7:52:48 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: sten

You bring up the point that breaks most of my beliefs. With a government coddling the bad decision makers (at the behest of damn near gun-point against the tax payers), none of us can actually be free. The best I can tell at this point is it will take a complete collapse of government so personal liberties can be restored. Other than that everyone is going to want their own personal interest imposed by? (dingdingding) government and the cycle keeps repeating.


48 posted on 10/19/2013 7:53:34 PM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: cloudmountain

I dare you... tell me where God has given you beauty for ashes! That can actually be seen, not that just you fancy!


49 posted on 10/19/2013 7:54:03 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: cloudmountain

And you talk about judging?


50 posted on 10/19/2013 7:54:29 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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