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Armed gun rights activists rally at the Alamo
MSN ^ | 10/19/13 | Christopher Sherman

Posted on 10/20/2013 4:31:23 AM PDT by Libloather

**SNIP**

Organizers had also hoped that seeing a large peaceful gathering of armed citizens in the downtown of the country's seventh largest city would be a step toward making people comfortable with the sight. There were people of all ages in the crowd, including young children. Some waved flags that read "Come and Take It," others dressed in period costumes, but most looked like anyone else one might encounter on the street, they just happened to be carrying rifles.

Men strolling through the streets with rifles isn't an image to which Hilary Rand thinks people should have to grow accustomed.

Rand, a regional manager for Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America, was at a counter-demonstration about a half mile away. Amid hula-hoops and face painting, Rand called the gun rights rally "bullying" and said it may serve opponents' interest as well.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alamo; armed; banglist; guncontrol; rally; secondamendment

1 posted on 10/20/2013 4:31:24 AM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Somewhere Jim Bowie is saying...Where the Hell were all you guy’s when I needed you!


2 posted on 10/20/2013 4:36:47 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: BigCinBigD

Who is Hillary Rand and why should anyone give a rats patoot what she thinks.

So she leads a small gang of gun grabbers. Screw her.


3 posted on 10/20/2013 4:40:21 AM PDT by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: Venturer

But, she does...Face painting!


4 posted on 10/20/2013 4:41:16 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: Libloather
Volunteers walked through the crowd placing red plastic straws in rifle chambers, a visible assurance they were not holding a round . . . Hilary Rand . . . said the threat of an accidental discharge was too great to justify gun rights advocates making their point.

Even by the standards of liberals, Hillary Rand is a moron. How often does she think that firearms with empty chambers have an accidental discharge? Even though the Second Amendment is not in the Penumbra like her favorite part of the Constitution, the right of the people to keep and bear arms is the supreme law of the land. Her brainless opinions are completely irrelevant when it comes to the law and our basic, God-given human rights.

5 posted on 10/20/2013 4:43:58 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Libloather
Mike Vanderboegh of Sipsey Street Irregulars spoke at the rally. Mike was a key figure in getting Fast and Furious into the public discourse. Here's a bit of his speech, One country? Or two?
My name is Mike Vanderboegh. I am from the great free state of Alabama and I am a Three Percenter. This is not the first time Alabamians have come to the aid of Texas in her time of need. There is an Alabama flag hanging in this sacred shrine of American liberty behind us, marking the sacrifice of the Alabamians who died here. But that was the least of my state's losses in your war of independence. After the surrender and massacre at Goliad, it is said that every single planter family in the Tennessee River valley of Alabama went into mourning, grieving for their lost sons squandered by COL Fannin. Alabamians have since been more than a little suspicious of Texas colonels, but as for myself I expect to make it back to Alabama in one piece after this, although I suppose that's up to the city leadership of San Antonio.

For those of you who don't know me, if you need to pigeonhole my politics I consider myself a Christian libertarian. I believe in God, free men, free markets, the rule of law under the Founder's Republic and that the Constitution extends to everyone regardless of race, creed, color or religion. I most especially believe in the right of the people to keep and bear arms as the ultimate guarantor of liberty.

I have also been called a "seditionist" by members of the current regime. If faithfully fulfilling my oath to the Founders' Republic and unrelenting hostility to those who would undermine and overthrow it makes me a "seditionist" then I cheerfully plead guilty. The Three Percent movement I founded has been denounced by that paragon of moral virtue Bill Clinton and I am a perennial "honorable mention" on the Southern Poverty Law Center's list of dangerous folks. I have even been the subject of an eighteen and a half minute rant by Rachel Madcow on MSNBC and the current Attorney General of the United States knows -- and despises – me by name because of the Fast and Furious scandal that, with my friend David Codrea, I broke the news of on the Internet. Eric Holder would not be surprised to know that the feeling is mutual.


6 posted on 10/20/2013 5:11:59 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Is John's moustache long enough YET?)
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To: Libloather

grarantee ya,
holder had his folks install facial recognition equipment around prior to this event and the nsa knows who each of these patriots are.
look for each to end up in re-education camps real soon.


7 posted on 10/20/2013 5:19:27 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) ( Hey Rubio, eat pooh pal))
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To: Libloather

grarantee ya,
holder had his folks install facial recognition equipment around prior to this event and the nsa knows who each of these patriots are.
look for each to end up in re-education camps real soon.


8 posted on 10/20/2013 5:20:08 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) ( Hey Rubio, eat pooh pal))
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To: Joe Boucher

Not if the guns actually shoot.


9 posted on 10/20/2013 5:22:00 AM PDT by Flintlock ("The redcoats are coming" -- TO SEIZE OUR GUNS!!--Paul Revere)
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To: Libloather

“Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America,”

Where do they get these names and why do ‘Moms’ have more credibility than anyone else?


10 posted on 10/20/2013 5:26:51 AM PDT by dljordan (WhoVoltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: Paine in the Neck
Here is a picture of Moms demand some action or whatever: Notice that they are given plenty of attention. This is their "demonstration" that was going on the same time that the one at the Alamo was drawing thousands.
11 posted on 10/20/2013 5:27:19 AM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: Libloather

I wonder if there were any Mexican illegals protesting there


12 posted on 10/20/2013 5:40:13 AM PDT by grb
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To: BigCinBigD; All
“Somewhere Jim Bowie is saying...Where the Hell were all you guy’s when I needed you!”

I think he is smiling and saying: “So, there may be a few patriots left in Texas after all” “Keep it up boys, and they may back down.”

Barack ain't no Santa Anna.

13 posted on 10/20/2013 5:51:14 AM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: Paine in the Neck
a perennial "honorable mention" on the Southern Poverty Law Center's list of dangerous folks.

From what I have seen of their criteria, the SPLC thinks of anyone who's ever voted Republican as a hate crime waiting to happen.

14 posted on 10/20/2013 6:03:53 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (You can keep your doctor - if you lock him in your basement.)
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To: marktwain
Barack ain't no Santa Anna.

Actually, I think he's a lot like Santa Anna. Both are extra-constitutional tyrants, cruel megalomaniac narcissists who thought they knew more than they actually did. May Obama's comeuppance be as complete.

15 posted on 10/20/2013 6:12:32 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Is John's moustache long enough YET?)
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To: Paine in the Neck

Good job; you are correct.


16 posted on 10/20/2013 6:21:49 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: Paine in the Neck

No doubt he shares some characteristics of Santa Anna.

I just do not think he has the drive, ambition, and understanding of military reality that Santa Anna did... thank God.


17 posted on 10/20/2013 6:44:10 AM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: BigCinBigD

——Where the Hell were all you guy’s when I needed you!-—

Now ,now...... think on that a minute

If it were not for Jim Bowie et al in 1843, those gathered could not be there.

The Republic of Texas founding fathers should be the model for the new American Republic that is in the making.


18 posted on 10/20/2013 6:48:43 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: Paine in the Neck

Mike is quick to run down Col Fannin. Being a proud Texan and from Goliad I think Mike needs to brush up on his history.

Col Fannin and his troops fought a running battle against overwhelming forces for days and were finally captured in a creek bed and supposedly given quarter. Marched to Goliad where they were massacred and their bodies left to rot in the sun

Now I am sure Mike has led men before in battle so he would know what to do if faced with same situation.

Windbag......


19 posted on 10/20/2013 6:52:40 AM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: eartick
Mike is quick to run down Col Fannin.

Ya, that grated on me a bit but Vanderboegh is a good guy. I'm willing to take it as a 'Bama vs. Aggies kind of shot - good, hard ribbing, not meant with cruelty.

20 posted on 10/20/2013 6:59:43 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Is John's moustache long enough YET?)
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To: marktwain

You know, if they weren’t so agressively unappealing, maybe they could just stay at home and get a little action from Dad, instead of having to hold street rallies and demand action from strangers.


21 posted on 10/20/2013 7:00:27 AM PDT by jstaff
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To: Libloather

Oil up the six-gun, polish your boots, put on your best evening holster and go to the Ball.


22 posted on 10/20/2013 7:34:37 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: bert

You meant 1836, right?


23 posted on 10/20/2013 7:56:04 AM PDT by Nita Nupress ( Use your mind, not your emotions. Refuse to be manipulated by Marxists.)
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To: Venturer

‘Betch’ya she doesn’t even know about the Alamo either.

Bring your guns, boys.

REMEMBER THE ALAMO!


24 posted on 10/20/2013 7:57:23 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Nita Nupress

Well no... I meant 1843 but I was wrong : )


25 posted on 10/20/2013 8:08:20 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: Libloather

I had to laugh with some nominal Yaqui Indian complaining that it somehow defiled the Alamo that once had been a mission and that Yaquis might be buried there.

The Yaqui Indians in Mexico lived in the northwest, and were a very warrior tribe of Indians. When the Conquistadors arrived, the Yaqui did some calculations, then reached a quick agreement with the Catholic Jesuit Order to all convert to Christianity. Thus they were under the *protection* of the Jesuits, and were never actually conquered by the Spanish.

This entente lasted until the Mexicans drove out the Spanish, and then:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaqui_people#Yaqui_Wars_and_the_D.C3.ADaz_enslavement

Ultraviolence, enslavement, internal deportation, etc. At one point, under the Yaqui leader Cajemé, they can close to conquering Mexico.

In any event, a lot of Yaqui had to flee to the US, where many still remain. But the idea that Yaqui Indians would be opposed to guns, AT ALL, is just hilarious. In many ways they were a lot like the Apache Indians, except there were a lot more Yaqui than Apache.


26 posted on 10/20/2013 8:39:30 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Welfare is the new euphemism for Eugenics.)
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To: Paine in the Neck
.Actually, I think he's a lot like Santa Anna. Both are extra-constitutional tyrants, cruel megalomaniac narcissists who thought they knew more than they actually did.

and santa anna was a drug addict too (opium)

27 posted on 10/20/2013 3:28:32 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (We should not fear our government. Our government should fear us.)
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To: Paine in the Neck
he's a lot like Santa Anna. Both are extra-constitutional tyrants, cruel megalomaniac narcissists who thought they knew more than they actually did.

Hey! We wouldn't had chiclets chewing gum if it wasn't for Santa Anna!

28 posted on 10/20/2013 6:37:03 PM PDT by no-s (when democracy is displaced by tyranny, the armed citizen still gets to vote)
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To: bert

Well, your punishment is a “Today in Texas history” lesson!

http://www.tshaonline.org/day-by-day/30637

Oct 22, 1836
On this day in 1836, the ad interim Texas government ended when Sam Houston was inaugurated as President of the Republic of Texas. The Convention of 1836 had declared independence and framed a Texas Constitution, but the advance of the Mexican army made immediate ratification and establishment of constitutional government impossible.

More specifically, the last act of the Convention before it disbanded to flee the advancing Mexican Army had been the selection of an ad interim government on March 16. (The Alamo had fallen on March 6th). This temporary government, without any legislative or judicial departments, fled with the people in the Runaway Scrape, and was located successively at Washington-on-the­Brazos, Harrisburg, Galveston Island, Velasco, and Columbia. Santa Anna was defeated on April 21, 1936 at the Battle of San Jacinto.

Thank you for the Tennessee folks who helped us free ourselves from tyranny. :-)


29 posted on 10/22/2013 8:18:40 PM PDT by Nita Nupress ( Use your mind, not your emotions. Refuse to be manipulated by Marxists.)
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To: Nita Nupress
------Santa Anna was defeated on April 21, 1936 at the Battle of San Jacinto.------

Aahmm.......... the 18 minutes in question wherein the valiant Texans charged up the field and drove the army of the distracted Santa Anna into the marsh where it was annihilated actually took place in 1836. We have been told that Texas was saved by a stunningly beautiful Yellow Rose that was in the tent of Santa Anna in the early afternoon of the battle .

Back in '09, We spent a month wandering around Texas. We visited the room on the river bluff in Laredo where one of the Texas Republics was hatched. We of course visited the Alamo site of the gallant stand. We traveled back to the East to Goliad and La Bahia, site of the massacre of Col Fannon and others. We went to Houston where I have several clients and Boarded the battleship Texas and then up to the monument and battlefield of San Jacinto.

I immersed my self in the early history of Texas and am convinced that after the revolution, Texas should be the model for our new government. I made my wife read all of Mitchner's TEXAS that was sort of a guide. We traveled as far west as Alpine/Marfa and Great Bend.

In 2012 we followed the Butterfield Trail, route of the Overland Mail, the first transcontinental mail contract route from Memphis to San Francisco. It was routed through Texas to avoid winter weather in the western mountains. The route is 900 miles long in Texas and pretty much sticks to small towns. The route later became the way west for the Army and a string of forts was built all across the state as people flowed west. Texas celebrates it as the Forts Trail but the locals know it was the Butterfield and celebrate it as well. The Butterfield is under study by the National Park Service as a National Historic Trail and will likely achieve that designation. This trip took us again to El Paso and the Hueco Tanks and of course the Guadalupe Mountains National park.

Lest I be accused of omission, we also pretty much proved beyond doubt that the second best Bar B Que in the world is cooked in Llano Texas at Cooper's. There is almost no equal. It is bettered only by that produced nearby at The Ridges Bar B Que that just happens to be on the National Historic Trail followed by the Overmountain Men of East Tennessee as they journeyed to fight the Battle of King's Mountain, the turning point in the Revolution.


30 posted on 10/23/2013 4:47:15 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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