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Pope Rejects Meeting with Bibi in Rome
INN ^ | 10/21/2013, 2:42 AM | Elad Benari

Posted on 10/21/2013 1:25:43 PM PDT by Olog-hai

Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu will not be meeting with Pope Francis during his visit to Rome on Wednesday, a diplomatic source told AFP on Sunday.

A statement last week from Netanyahu’s office had said he would be “meeting Pope Francis next Wednesday at the Vatican” and with U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry for updates on nuclear talks with Iran and negotiations with the Palestinian Authority.

A diplomatic source on Sunday told AFP, however, that no such meeting with Pope Francis will be taking place. The source noted that audiences with the Pope must be arranged sufficiently in advance. …

(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: meeting; netanyahu; popefrancis; vatican
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1 posted on 10/21/2013 1:25:43 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
This can't be.

The Pope rejects "ideological Christianity."

2 posted on 10/21/2013 1:29:49 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Seems to me —emphasis on “seems”— at this point to
be a slight to Netanyahu.

But that may be a false impression. Have to wait and see...


3 posted on 10/21/2013 1:30:43 PM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: Olog-hai
On Thursday, PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas met with the pope and invited him to the Middle East.

This has my attention. Overall I like the guy, but Israel is for me a litmus test. The pope did apparently meet with Shimon Peres.

4 posted on 10/21/2013 1:32:22 PM PDT by marron
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To: CondorFlight; metmom; Alex Murphy; HarleyD

**Have to wait and see...**

Seems to be a lot of that going around with this here new Pope.


5 posted on 10/21/2013 1:32:59 PM PDT by Gamecock (Many Atheists take the stand: "There is no God AND I hate Him.")
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To: CondorFlight
A world leader will be in town, publicly says he's going to meet with the Pope, and the Pope publicly says it ain't happening.

Sounds like a "slight" to me.

6 posted on 10/21/2013 1:36:21 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: marron

Why did Francis meet with the PA head terrorist and not the prime minister of Israel? This Catholic wants to know.

And none of this “Rome has to pussyfoot with the Muslims in an attempt to minimize persecution of Christians in Arab lands”.

Well, it’s now all-out jihad against Copts, Chaldeans, Melkites, & any other Christian remnant in any Muslim midst, so maybe it’s time to speak frankly, Your Holiness?


7 posted on 10/21/2013 1:40:24 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Please tell me this isn’t true. I’ve been lied to before and I’m hoping the Pope will soon meet with Bibi.


8 posted on 10/21/2013 1:41:19 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (I)
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To: Olog-hai

The Pope’s philo-semitic credentials are pretty bulletproof, so this can only be a case of his refusing to be manipulated by Bibi in the latter’s bid to gin up a war with Iran. I don’t Francis for refusing to sign on for a new middle eastern war, but IMHO he should have taken the meeting and told Bibi to his face. Couldn’t have hurt.

Don’t know how it was announced that the meeting was a done deal. Somebody screwed up.


9 posted on 10/21/2013 1:43:07 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: miss marmelstein

bttt


10 posted on 10/21/2013 1:43:15 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (In America, we don't do pin pricks. But sometimes we elect them.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
A world leader will be in town, publicly says he's going to meet with the Pope, and the Pope publicly says it ain't happening. Sounds like a "slight" to me.

A world leader publicly says he's going to meet with somebody, without first asking the somebody and confirming that he's able to meet with him, before opening his mouth. Sounds like a stupid mistake.

11 posted on 10/21/2013 1:43:44 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Olog-hai
"I don’t Francis" = "I don’t blame Francis "
12 posted on 10/21/2013 1:44:46 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: markomalley; Salvation; Olog-hai

IF this is true, I find it outrageous that Pope Francis can’t find a spare half hour or thereabout to meet with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu!


13 posted on 10/21/2013 1:45:13 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Romulus

Just why exactly would Netanyahu need the Vatican’s support for a war with Iran, which, frankly, is a war that the US should have fought and won already?


14 posted on 10/21/2013 1:45:47 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Gamecock

Not Catholic so FWIW...I am done waiting. Pope Francis is nothing like his predecessor(s). Very disappointing!


15 posted on 10/21/2013 1:46:12 PM PDT by prisoner6 ( FREEDOM!)
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To: Olog-hai

I am outraged. And to think my husband ( who is Jewish) and I pray after saying our grace before our meals, “And God bless momma and poppa, the United States of America, the intentions of the pope, and {my husband’s business), Amen.”

I may have to suspend this special reference to him.


16 posted on 10/21/2013 1:46:31 PM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: Olog-hai

It seems to me that a pope who can have off-the-cuff interviews with atheists who write him letters, who can pop in to parish churches without notice, who can pay his own hotel bill, could find 10 minutes to meet with the leader of a democratic nation desirous to meet with him.


17 posted on 10/21/2013 1:46:54 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Olog-hai
"Bibi"?

Now might be time to recall that the last pope called for clemency for Asia Bibi or Asia Noreen, a Christian Pakistani woman held in prison under sentence of death. She is still in prison.

18 posted on 10/21/2013 1:49:28 PM PDT by x
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To: Olog-hai
A statement last week from Netanyahu’s office had said he would be “meeting Pope Francis next Wednesday at the Vatican” and with U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry for updates on nuclear talks with Iran and negotiations with the Palestinian Authority. A diplomatic source on Sunday told AFP, however, that no such meeting with Pope Francis will be taking place.

Ping for later

19 posted on 10/21/2013 1:50:01 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Just a common, ordinary, simple savior of America's destiny.)
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To: PapaBear3625

How do you know he didn’t ask?


20 posted on 10/21/2013 1:52:17 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: Olog-hai

You would have to ask Bibi. I doubt he wanted the meeting to ask what time Mass is.

And no, I am glad we are not going to fight that war. We have enough ME screwups on our hands, and enough blood, as it is.


21 posted on 10/21/2013 1:55:39 PM PDT by Romulus
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pfl


22 posted on 10/21/2013 1:57:16 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: Romulus

The only “ME screwup” “we” (i.e. the politicians that are supposed to represent us in DC) engage in is not actually fighting the war(s) to win and worrying about what the left will say about us.


23 posted on 10/21/2013 1:58:30 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Gamecock; metmom; HarleyD
Seems to be a lot of that ["wait and see] going around with this here new Pope.
"...when you go to see the doctor, you don't see the actual doctor first. You must wait in the Waiting Room. There's no chance of not waiting - that's the name of the room."
-- Jerry Seinfeld, I'm Telling You For The Last Time

24 posted on 10/21/2013 1:58:40 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Just a common, ordinary, simple savior of America's destiny.)
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To: Olog-hai; flaglady47; oswegodeee; ExTexasRedhead
I've been waiting in vain for the usual immediate-jumpers-on who always blame everything on "the translation" or on "unreliable" news sources.

This is it for me. Disrespect Bibi and you disrespect me by extension.

And don't believe for one moment that the Israeli government posted the announcement of the meeting before the Pope agreed to see him. Stuff like this doesn't happen in the big leagues.

I posted my suspicions right off the bat about this "social justice" new pope and I've been proven right time after time.

Believe, me, like many others here, this post is written totally in sorrow, not anger.

Leni

25 posted on 10/21/2013 2:04:25 PM PDT by MinuteGal (<p>)
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To: Olog-hai

What does it mean when the Pope ridicules Ideological Christianity but say’s nary a word about Islam?

Give me a break. All religions are ideological as well as all political philosophies. Even the absence of an ideology is an ideology.

I think they should have given the Pope an IQ test prior to election, or maybe that’s why he was elected?

So, either the Source of the story is lying, or somebody at the Vatican hung Israel out to dry because there is no way on this green earth that Israel announced an unarranged meeting with the Pope.


26 posted on 10/21/2013 2:11:52 PM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: MinuteGal

Fill us in on a somewhat detail opinion of the Pope. I agree with everything your thinking, but would like you to elaborate on the Pope.

I think this Pope is as strange as his ascension. Belittling Ideological Christianity was a low IQ move.

My inner imaginative self thinks that this Pope sounds too much like an American Liberal.

I also sense the death of Catholicism.


27 posted on 10/21/2013 2:19:06 PM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: Olog-hai

“JERUSALEM (JTA) — Israeli Prime Minister will not meet with Pope Francis during a visit to Rome this week, as his office had previously announced.

The Prime Minister’s office issued a statement last week saying that Netanyahu would meet with the pope at the Vatican on Wednesday and during the same trip meet with U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry in Rome to discuss the peace talks with the Palestinians, Iran, Syria, and other issues of mutual concern.

But the Vatican reportedly never was asked to schedule a meeting, and due to complex and conservative Vatican protocol cannot schedule a visit with one week’s notice, which is insulting, Haaretz reported.

On Sunday, the Vatican officially informed the Israeli ambassador to the Vatican, Zion Evrony, that a meeting could not be scheduled this week between Netanyahu and the pope.

Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas met earlier this month with the pope in Rome.

The pope has expressed an interest in visiting Israel”

Not exactly “reject” but hey, on FR anything anti catholic goes.


28 posted on 10/21/2013 2:22:30 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Olog-hai

Bibi Rebozo?


29 posted on 10/21/2013 2:22:49 PM PDT by subterfuge (CBS NBC ABC FOX AP-- all no different than Pravda.)
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To: stanne

JTA and Ha’aretz usually lean left, but since Bibi is one of the people here, they have to side against him.


30 posted on 10/21/2013 2:26:46 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Usagi_yo
I'm sorry I don't have time for writing a "detailed opinion of the Pope".

Reading threads about the Holy Father on FR will give you a fine variety of pro and con opinions on many details of his time in office. Then you can decide what YOUR opinion is as you will be nicely informed. I posted my opinion above...after months and months of my own reading and discussing "details". My best......

Leni

31 posted on 10/21/2013 2:29:45 PM PDT by MinuteGal (<p>)
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To: Olog-hai

so you want the US to get into another war in the Middle East.

What’s your estimate: How much will a US war with Iran cost, in tax dollars? Where will the money come from - more borrowing from China, or more taxes? How long will it last? How many troops need to be sent?

If you refuse to answer these questions, you’re like a Democrat who wants new social programs but doesn’t know - and doesn’’t care - what they’ll cost.


32 posted on 10/21/2013 2:32:44 PM PDT by WilliamIII
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To: MinuteGal

It is with much sadness that I admit I agree with your take on this pope. Something is just ‘off’ with him, maybe it’s behind the scenes handlers or maybe it’s just him. I hear from more Catholics that they are NOT at enchanted with him and are more disgusted than ever with the church.

Whatever he is doing, and all the supposed miscommunications floating around, the harm is evident and I wonder why THAT doesn’t seem to be addressed. It’s all rather baffling to me.


33 posted on 10/21/2013 2:33:56 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 ('Hey citizen, what's in YOUR closet?')
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To: MinuteGal

Whatever man. I really didn’t mean “detail” I meant specific. Because I’m thinking some of “I need to wait and see” might be actually holding back a negative review for fear of ridicule.

As for FR as a news source ? Hmmm, no. FR is great opinion site and great at pointing to news sources.


34 posted on 10/21/2013 2:38:57 PM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: Usagi_yo

“My inner imaginative self thinks that this Pope sounds to much like an American liberal”.

Sorry to disappoint you.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2013/09/25/pope-francis-excommunicates-priest-for-supporting-women-lgbt-people/


35 posted on 10/21/2013 2:39:54 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

I was listening to the Catholic radio station in CT yesterday. An unsettling indicator was the enthusiasm of the radio priest for the new Pope Francis, and his implied diminution of Benedict. It sounded as if he knew, or felt that the new Pope was with “his” party.
The radio priest quoted with approval Francis’ comment on the imminent collapse of the Church “like a deck of cards.”
I am tentatively very suspicious of this Pope. I am worried about some of his attitudes, as well as his Argentinian origins and the baggage that this implies.


36 posted on 10/21/2013 2:45:46 PM PDT by docbnj
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To: Olog-hai
The article must be read!

The Pope has a calendar and has commitments which are scheduled months to years in advance. Bibi is just like anyone else who must get on that calendar if he wishes to meet with him.

Every single reporter and electronic typesetter with an axe to grind can make anything look bad.

37 posted on 10/21/2013 2:46:23 PM PDT by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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To: Olog-hai
If the pope was an authentic Christian, the leader of Israel would be at the top of his list...

Gen_12:2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:
Gen_12:3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

38 posted on 10/21/2013 2:57:35 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Usagi_yo; flaglady47
I'm not a man, I'm a gal.

Since you feel that FR is an opinion source, not a news source, I suggest you type the Pope's name into your Yahoo or Google search engine and find whatever specific details you're looking for.

I charge $250 an hour to do research for people who are disinclined to do their own.

Leni/MinuteGAL

39 posted on 10/21/2013 2:57:41 PM PDT by MinuteGal (<p>)
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To: docbnj

Just found out that the ever faithful pig soros is dumping money into the evangelical churches to get them on board with all things socialist. Why does this not shock me?

That is a very disturbing thing you shared, makes me very queasy. To date, my prayers include some much needed comfort and perhaps a bit of wisdom along the way. I do not understand what this pope says 1/2 the time. I do know that the Lord ultimately is in control, so I wait to see what the deal is with all this. I have no home in the church currently, they make so little sense to me these days. The path they are trying to take us down is so foreign to that which I was taught all my life. Can you tell I’m confused?! lol


40 posted on 10/21/2013 3:11:24 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 ('Hey citizen, what's in YOUR closet?')
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To: Iscool

Rubbish. You’re abusing Holy Scripture for a political purpose.


41 posted on 10/21/2013 3:45:23 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: elcid1970

“This Catholic wants to know.”

Good luck with that


42 posted on 10/21/2013 4:02:25 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: MinuteGal

U mad bro?

I’ll see your strawman and raise you an invective.


43 posted on 10/21/2013 4:14:01 PM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: NKP_Vet

... American Liberal *CATHOLIC* ... I left off the Catholic part.


44 posted on 10/21/2013 4:15:05 PM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: Usagi_yo
You're childish...and a provocateur.

Flit off.

Leni

45 posted on 10/21/2013 4:21:30 PM PDT by MinuteGal (<p>)
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To: Usagi_yo

So once again, tell how “liberal” Francis is.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2013/09/25/pope-francis-excommunicates-priest-for-supporting-women-lgbt-people/


46 posted on 10/21/2013 4:32:29 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: onyx; Salvation; Olog-hai
From Haaretz (an admittedly left-wing Israeli news source, but, nonetheless, different than Arutz Shiva:

…Senior officials in Jerusalem said that when the Prime Minister's Office made the announcement last Wednesday of the supposed meeting, no actual meeting had been set.

The Vatican found out from media outlets about Netanyahu's arrival in Rome and that an apparent meeting was scheduled. In recent days the PMO has scrambled to avoid the embarrassment and somehow find a way to make the meeting to take place.

The issue even reached National Security Adviser Yaakov Amidror, who exerted heavy pressure on foreign minister director general Raphael Barak and Israel's ambassador to the Vatican Zion Evrony.

Netanyahu's office even tried to go around the foreign ministry and Evrony and reach the Vatican another route, but to no avail. On Sunday, the Vatican officially informed the Israeli ambassador that Netanyahu would not meet with the Pope.

The Italian press, including the Catholic Press, is not saying much at all. For example, from Corriere Della Sera:

E' stato rinviato l'incontro fra Papa Francesco e Benyamin Netanyahu, che doveva avvenire durante la visita a Roma del premier israeliano. Lo hanno detto all'ANSA fonti politiche in Israele. Le fonti hanno precisato che l'incontro con il Pontefice avra' comunque luogo 'in un'altra data'. Sulle motivazioni del rinvio non sono state fornite per ora spiegazioni. Confermati invece gli incontri di a Roma con Enrico Letta, martedi', e con il segretario di Stato Usa John Kerry, mercoledi'.

Quick and dirty summary: sources say the meeting was postponed but will be scheduled at some (undetermined) date in the future.

What does O'Malley think? It could have been a snub, but that isn't his style. And you can't reasonably attribute some anti-Semitic rationale to this, as Begoglio has ALWAYS had a good relationship with the Jewish people in Buenos Aires...and, so far, in Rome.

But, hey, if you want to be offended, by all means have at it. There is too little information here for me to render any kind of a judgement one way or the other. The source that lines up with Likud is reporting that Netanyahu is offended..and states that as a fact. The source that lines up with Labor is reporting that Netanyahu made a huge faux pas. Big surprise there. The Vatican isn't going to say anything about it, particularly if Bibi was responsible...as they wouldn't want to embarrass him. The secular Italian press is treating it as a non-event (and, believe me, some of the Italian papers would love nothing better than to embarrass the Vatican).

So, you decide.

47 posted on 10/21/2013 4:38:45 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley
The source that lines up with Likud is reporting that Netanyahu is offended..and states that as a fact.

Thanks very much for your detailed reply, markomalley.
God bless and keep you.

48 posted on 10/21/2013 4:43:25 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: MinuteGal

I knew a Leni from Philadelphia, PA. He was a poker dealer.

You’re probably not him, but just in case.

o7 Leni


49 posted on 10/21/2013 4:43:43 PM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
Middle East and terrorism, occasional political and Jewish issues Ping List. High Volume

If you’d like to be on or off, please FR mail me.

..................

A brouha about nothing.

50 posted on 10/21/2013 4:55:40 PM PDT by SJackson (As a black man, you know, Barack could get shot going to the gas station, Michelle on Chicago)
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