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Rally With Ken Cuccinelli And Special Guest Senator Rand Paul
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Posted on 10/21/2013 2:19:38 PM PDT by Maelstorm


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To: kabar

That is what he promised... and the republicans may lose bigtime in a mcawful sweep. I am sorry to say but I have no faith in the voters of Virginia. Great State... or it once was. I guess we will see.


21 posted on 10/21/2013 5:19:22 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

If he wins he should not serve. The punk the rats have up put exposes the whole state-not worthy of governing.


22 posted on 10/21/2013 5:42:34 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: Timber Rattler
Republican Party local chairmen in central and southwest Virginia, who have had ZERO coordination with Cucinelli's moribund organization.

Simply not true. Cuccinelli has been many times in central and southwest VA. He has hit the coal issue hard. FYI: Southwest VA is sparsely populated. Cuccinelli will win that area easily.

Republican candidate gubernatorial Ken Cuccinelli visits Southwest Virginia

You seem to forget that Ken has been the AG for four years. He has name recognition in every part of the state and has been everywhere in the state. Again, who exactly are you talking about? Give me some names.

Spare me the excuses. Cucinelli has ignored the rest of the state, and so there is NO enthusiasm for him, nor any motivation to get out and work for him. Moreover, his miserable campaign has left McCauliffe's nasty attack ads and smears almost completely unanswered. It's one of the worst state-level campaigns I have ever seen.

Are you a resident of VA or PA? Cuccinelli has not ignored the rest of the state. Turnout will be key. Ken needs his base to turn out like they did in 2009. McAwful has twice as much money as Cuccinelli.

FWIW: Learn how to spell Cuccinelli.

23 posted on 10/21/2013 7:18:39 PM PDT by kabar
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To: LibLieSlayer

Demography is destiny. VA is a purple state trending blue in much the same way as NV, CO, NM, FL, NC, AZ, etc. If we don’t reduce legal immigration, it is inevitable.


24 posted on 10/21/2013 7:21:59 PM PDT by kabar
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To: newnhdad

This is just not true. He is running counter ads and Terry McAuliffes negatives have been pushed up the only problem is people like you who want to talk rather than do anything about it. Two weeks is an eternity in politics and turn out is going to be down from 70% to 40% or less in this race. I believe its probably going to be lower because of the negative campaigning.


25 posted on 10/21/2013 7:35:47 PM PDT by Maelstorm (The political class love diversity and choice only when the its choices they approve of.)
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To: kabar

You are wrong. McDonnell won the state recently with over 60% of the vote. The GOP picked up and held the majority of House seats in Virginia. The problem in 2012 was Romney and a state GOP that managed to depress turnout and interest by making sure only Ron Paul and Romney were on the Virginia primary ballot. Sure NOVA is a problem but its not nearly as big of a problem when you actually have money to run ads and you really work to define the Democrat candidate. That is something that wasn’t done by Team Romney.

Cuccinelli has ran a solid campaign but he has been trying to re-run the McDonnell campaign against McAuliffe and McAuliffe is no mild mannered Creigh Deeds. We can win in VA but we have to work for it and that is something conservatives and GOP seem to have a problem with. They want things delivered on a platter with polls and media trimmings. We won big in the midterms of 2010 and we didn’t have the media on our side. If anything everyone was against us.

We won a seat in MA. The way we did it is everyone pitched in and helped win that seat. I had fundraising letters hitting me from nearly every conservative organization. Brown raised 12 million in under 2 weeks. I’ve never seen such a mobilization since then. Why not? If we can do it for one race in an off election why not a Governors race in Virginia? Virginia used to be a blue state with full Democrat control of the legislature not long ago. So these things do not always move one direction.


26 posted on 10/21/2013 7:44:13 PM PDT by Maelstorm (The political class love diversity and choice only when the its choices they approve of.)
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To: Maelstorm
You are wrong. McDonnell won the state recently with over 60% of the vote.

No, I am not wrong. McDonnell's victory was due in large part to an historic low Dem turnout coupled with unhappiness with Obama that was reflected in Christie winning in NJ and Brown in MA. McDonnell, Bolling, and Cuccinelli all won big.

The GOP picked up and held the majority of House seats in Virginia

The House of Delegates was the only bright spot. A 20-20 Senate restrained what could be done even though Bolling held the deciding vote, which he self-limited.

The problem in 2012 was Romney and a state GOP that managed to depress turnout and interest by making sure only Ron Paul and Romney were on the Virginia primary ballot.

The Rep vote in VA was not depressed. We had a massive GOTV effort led not only by the GOP but also We are Virginia. In 2008 the Reps had 1,725,005 compared to 1,822,522 in 2012--an almost 100,000 vote increase compared to just a 12,000 vote increase for Obama. Obama still won by 150,000 in 2012. The 2012 vote for the Reps was the highest in its history.

Sure NOVA is a problem but its not nearly as big of a problem when you actually have money to run ads and you really work to define the Democrat candidate. That is something that wasn’t done by Team Romney.

It had nothing to do with money. It has to do with demographics and the changing nature of NoVA. Here in Fairfax County, where I have lived since 1979, the electoral balance has shifted. It started in 2004 when Kerry won Fairfax County, the first time that was done since 1964. Obama won Fairfax by 109,000 in 2012 and by 110,000 in 2008. The Reps increased their vote total in 2012 by 7,000 but still lost. 30% of the residents of Fairfax County are foreign-born compared to 15% in 1990. These have electoral implications along with the growth of the federal government.

Cuccinelli has ran a solid campaign but he has been trying to re-run the McDonnell campaign against McAuliffe and McAuliffe is no mild mannered Creigh Deeds.

McDonnell's scandal has hurt Cuccinelli along with his own acceptance of gifts, which he voluntarily disclosed. Ken is one of the best campaigners and grassroots politicians, but he is dealing with a new political reality. Also, EW Jackson on the ticket has been a drag. I was a delegate at the convention and it was a contentious fight/ Also, Bill Bolling has been a sore loser along with many of his supporters. When you have someone like Boyd Marcus endorsing McAwful, you know you have a problem within the GOP.

We can win in VA but we have to work for it and that is something conservatives and GOP seem to have a problem with. They want things delivered on a platter with polls and media trimmings. We won big in the midterms of 2010 and we didn’t have the media on our side. If anything everyone was against us.

You can't compare 2010 to today. Kaine was elected easily in 2012 getting even more votes than Obama. The only way Cuccinelli wins is to have a low Dem turnout and big GOP turnout. It is going to be tough. Here in NoVA, the Dems are energized. Cuccinelli is described as a right wing radical. Statewide Cuccinelli is trailing by 20% with women. Hillary and Bill have hit the campaign trail to support McAwful. And the government shutdown has helped stoke the fires of many federal employees.

And then there is the impact of folks like Cantor and Goodlatte supporting amnesty for the Dreamers that have turned a lot of conservatives off. Cuccinelli is being hurt by the GOP in-fighting.

We won a seat in MA. The way we did it is everyone pitched in and helped win that seat. I had fundraising letters hitting me from nearly every conservative organization. Brown raised 12 million in under 2 weeks. I’ve never seen such a mobilization since then. Why not? If we can do it for one race in an off election why not a Governors race in Virginia? Virginia used to be a blue state with full Democrat control of the legislature not long ago. So these things do not always move one direction.

The move now is to a solid blue state within the next decade. The demographics of the state have changed. Just as CA has moved to a solid blue state, so will VA. It is inevitable. NoVA will continue to dominate more and more statewide elections. We are being outnumbered. One of the reasons Cuccinelli ran for AG in 2009 is that he barely retained his NoVA state senate seat by a few hundred votes. Fairfax County, Arlington County, and Alexandria give the Dems a huge cushion. When you add the cities like Norfolk, Richmond, Hampton, and Roanoke where the Dems also ring up big numbers, it is getting harder and harder to win a statewide election. We have entered the era of tribal politics and the GOP is losing.

27 posted on 10/21/2013 9:50:50 PM PDT by kabar
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Yes he is a real pos... as bad as any clinton.


28 posted on 10/22/2013 3:57:51 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: kabar

You have got that right!


29 posted on 10/22/2013 4:03:09 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Maelstorm

We live in NoVa and all I see is outside ads claiming Cuch has horns, cloven hooves and wants to break into your house, steal your pills and rubbers and leave a mandatory gun behind.

I really don’t like this new style of campaigning not to lose. It didn’t work in 2008 and 2012.


30 posted on 10/22/2013 4:43:38 AM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: kabar
Simply not true. Cuccinelli has been many times in central and southwest VA. He has hit the coal issue hard. FYI: Southwest VA is sparsely populated. Cuccinelli will win that area easily.

No he hasn't. Maybe a time or too, but that's about it. Since then he's had his butt stuck in either Richmond or Northern Virginia. And his debate with the sleazeball wasn't even advertised there. My dad, who's interested in the campaign, wanted to watch the debate but was shocked to learn that it had already happened. It ticked him off pretty good. And SWVA is NOT sparsely populated. There are enough folks there to turn the tide for him if they turn out, but so far, he has given them NO motivation to do so. It's the Romney strategy all over again---take the voters for granted and they will flock to the polls for you. It's not going to happen.

You seem to forget that Ken has been the AG for four years. He has name recognition in every part of the state and has been everywhere in the state. Again, who exactly are you talking about? Give me some names.

No, he doesn't despite what his yes men are telling him. I'm talking about the local Republican chairmen in Southwest and Central Virginia---I help run a Facebook page for Conservative political issues in SWVA, and the chairmen we've been in contact with are simply pulling their hair out over the incompetence of Cuccinelli's campaign and neglect of their areas. There is NO coordination with them, and the messaging has been tepid at best.

Are you a resident of VA or PA? Cuccinelli has not ignored the rest of the state. Turnout will be key. Ken needs his base to turn out like they did in 2009. McAwful has twice as much money as Cuccinelli.

I live in PA because of job but my family homestead is in SWVA---I own property and pay taxes to both Commonwealths. However, I'm involved a heckuva a lot more with my family in SWVA and the political issues that affect them, like Obama's war on coal. McAuliffe's handed the Cuccinelli campaign a veritable wealth of material with which to hit the Rats over the head, but the campaign has refused to use it, much to everyone's frustration and confusion. There's just been no fight there at all.

If you have a direct line to Cuccinelli, you need to get on the horn to him and tell him to get his butt out of Richmond and on the road, 24/7, between now and election day, or else, he's going to get blown out of the water.

31 posted on 10/22/2013 5:18:48 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Timber Rattler
And SWVA is NOT sparsely populated.

Compared to the rest of the state, it is. More than a third of the population lives in NoVA. Ken stumped Saturday with former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee near Liberty University in Lynchburg. He’s scheduled to appear with Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., on Oct. 28 in Virginia Beach, which is a GOP stronghold.

There are enough folks there to turn the tide for him if they turn out, but so far, he has given them NO motivation to do so.

In a very close election, perhaps. What county does your dad live in? Does he really need to see a debate, which is on the GOP website, to decide who to vote for? What is he doing to help Ken get elected? Cuccinelli is not an unknown candidate. He has been AG for four years. His conservative credentials are unquestioned. Isn't a McAwful governorship motivation enough? Does the coal industry support Cuccinelli? Does the NRA support Cuccinelli?

Cuccinelli touts education proposal during campaign visit to Roanoke Valley

No, he doesn't despite what his yes men are telling him. I'm talking about the local Republican chairmen in Southwest and Central Virginia---I help run a Facebook page for Conservative political issues in SWVA, and the chairmen we've been in contact with are simply pulling their hair out over the incompetence of Cuccinelli's campaign and neglect of their areas. There is NO coordination with them, and the messaging has been tepid at best.

What exactly are they doing in terms of contact with the Cuccinelli campaign? Get me some names of who they have been dealing with and who they are that are experiencing the problems. Send it to me privately.

Cuccinelli has been all over the state. You continue to make false claims that all he does is stay in Richmond and NoVA. That simply is not true. You also have to realize that SW VA is an area with relatively few voters. Ken must spend most of his time in areas where he can attract the most voters. It is up to the local county chairmen to GOTV. You can blame Ken all you want, but if the people in those areas are indifferent or not motivated to vote, then the real problem is with them. They will get the government they deserve.

32 posted on 10/22/2013 7:08:55 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
Give me a break. You can stick your head in the sand and make excuses all you want. I'm raising the red flag, and if Cuccinelli's team doesn't know who the county GOP chairmen are past Lynchburg and Roanoke, then that speaks volumes about its competency.

You can blame Ken all you want, but if the people in those areas are indifferent or not motivated to vote, then the real problem is with them. They will get the government they deserve.

Yep, blaming the voters is always a winning strategy.

I rest my case.

33 posted on 10/22/2013 12:04:20 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Timber Rattler
You call them excuses, I call them facts. In addition to the changing demographics of VA, we have a divided GOP led by Bill Bolling who has decided to torpedo Ken. EW Jackson is a drag on the ticket. And when you have longtime political advisers like Boyd Marcus endorsing McAwful, you have a recipe for disaster. The bottom line is that the Reps won't win a statewide election for a long time to come, especially if the nominee is a real conservative.

Rasmussen poll gives McAuliffe a 17-point lead over Cuccinelli

Yep, blaming the voters is always a winning strategy. I rest my case.

I suspect you are probably part of the Tom Davis wing of the GOP. You haven't a clue about what is happening here. And you keep on evading questions I have posed to you about specific names or for that matter, what county your dad lives in. If McAwful is not enough to motivate GOP voters to go to the polls then they deserve the consequences.

34 posted on 10/22/2013 12:49:00 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
I suspect you are probably part of the Tom Davis wing of the GOP. You haven't a clue about what is happening here. And you keep on evading questions I have posed to you about specific names or for that matter, what county your dad lives in.

You know what...you can KMA you sanctimonious twit. You're going to deserve exactly what you get after McAuliffe finishes rolling over Cuccinelli. And poor Virginia is going to suffer because of Cuccinelli's incompetent Romneyite-style campaign.

Enjoy your four years of renewed Clintonism.

35 posted on 10/22/2013 8:45:48 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Timber Rattler
You know what...you can KMA you sanctimonious twit. You're going to deserve exactly what you get after McAuliffe finishes rolling over Cuccinelli. And poor Virginia is going to suffer because of Cuccinelli's incompetent Romneyite-style campaign.

As I said, you don't have a clue as to what is happening in VA. There was no way that Romney could have won VA any more than he could have won CA. Your arrogance is only exceeded by your ignorance.

The only way Cuccinelli wins is if the Dems have a low turnout. The Dems outnumber the Reps by a substantial margin and their numbers are increasing. You would rather blame Cuccinelli than the electoral reality in VA. I live here while you live in PA.

I have seen the shift demographically over the past 34 years in Fairfax County. In 1990 81% of the county was non-Hispanic white; today it is 62%. Over 30% of the population is foreign-born. Immigrants and minorities vote Democrat. And the three biggest employers in the county are the Fairfax County Public Schools (181,000 students with 32,000 receiving ESOL instruction), the federal government, and the Fairfax County government.

Enjoy your four years of renewed Clintonism.

Just four? It will be a long time before VA has a Rep senator or governor. We have reached the tipping point. I suggest you focus your efforts on turning PA red in the next Presidential election. The entire country will enjoy renewed Clintonism in 2016. Hillary is a lock if she runs--and she will.

36 posted on 10/22/2013 9:58:13 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
I live here while you live in PA.

What part of my managing my family substantial homestead and paying taxes in Virginia did you not understand?

I know exactly what's going on---Cuccinelli surrounded himself with former state-level Romney staffers and is running a mushy, ill-coordinated, sloppy, campaign, and is getting steamrolled by McAuliffe.

Everything that is wrong with Cuccinelli's campaign is summed up in these stories:

CURL: Wake up, Virginia! You’re about to suffer four horrible years

Cuccinelli pays the price for the GOP’s ‘truce strategy’ on abortion

Cuccinelli shuns Cruz limelight

Trailing McAuliffe, Cuccinelli changes staff, focus (Virginia)

And bub, having grown up and lived in the Commonwealth for over thirty years, and having traveled the U.S. 460 East-West/I-81 North-South corridors extensively, I know far more about it than you ever will. Have you even been out of Northern Virginia?

37 posted on 10/23/2013 3:27:56 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Timber Rattler
hat part of my managing my family substantial homestead and paying taxes in Virginia did you not understand?

What part of the fact that I LIVE IN VA NOW and have for the past 34 years do you not understand? I pay taxes in VA including property taxes, income taxes, sales taxes, etc.

I have been engaged in the political activity of the GOP in the Commonwealth for many years. I vote in every election. I am a member of the FCRC. I provide my time and money to elect Reps. I have been a Fairfax County delegate to several GOP conventions. I have been a poll watcher and election officer. I lobby in Richmond on immigration issues.

You have the temerity and hubris to pretend to know more than I do about what is happening in VA politically. You don't have a clue and instead Google a few articles that really don't explain why McAwful is winning. You don't accept the political reality of the changing demographics of VA and its electoral consequences. Beyond that, you don't seem to understand internal GOP politics in VA. Here are the basic reasons why Ken is losing and why the GOP is losing in the state:

Changing Demographics: The political center of gravity has shifted to NoVA where more than one-third of the voters live. And as Tom Davis says of NoVA, "“It votes more like New Jersey than the rest of Virginia....” The Dems have built a huge and effective political machine in NoVA to get out the vote. The Dems build up huge cushion of votes that more than offsets the Rep dominance in the southern part of the state. And add to that the fact that 20% of the population of the state is black. NoVA is the fastest growing part of the state.

Internal GOP division: Bill Bolling was supposed to be the heir-apparent to McDonnell. Bolling had stepped aside in 2009 to allow AG McDonnell to run. In return McDonnell endorsed Bolling for governor in 2013. When Cuccinelli entered the race, he started a food fight--first over whether we would have a primary or a convention to select the nominee. The Cuccinelli supporters controlled the Central Committee and the decision was made to go to a convention, which essentially assured Cuccinelli the nomination. I was a delegate who voted for him. Bolling has been a sore loser who at one point ruminated in public that he might run as an independent. Many of the Bolling supporters may stay home or not vote for Cuccinelli.

The convention also produced a surprise with EW Jackson winning the nomination for Lt Gov after many rounds of balloting. Without going into detail, Jackson is a poor candidate and a drag on the ticket. He has made some controversial statements about women, abortion, gays, and other things that have galvanized the opposition and caused Cuccinelli and Obanshain to distance themselves from Jackson. It is not the unified ticket of McDonnell, Bolling, and Cuccinelli of 2009.

Scandal: Bob McDonnell accepted gifts from a lobbyist that helped pay for his daughter's wedding. The scandal has spilled over to Cuccinelli who also admitted voluntarily that he also received some personal gifts from a lobbyist. It was investigated and Cuccinelli was found not guilty of wrongdoing (legally), but Cuccinelli is paying back what he received.

Social Issues: The Dems have used their standard playbook against Cuccinelli on abortion, gay rights, and women's issues to portray Cuccinelli as a right wing extremist along the lines of Todd Akin. The War on Women has been a main theme of the political ads, especially those showing in NoVA. This has galvanized the Dem women voters in very liberal NoVA and energized them to vote. This helps explain why Cuccinelli is trailing McAwful by 20 percent among women/

Other issues: Cuccinelli was against the tax increase that McDonnell brokered to pay for transportation, which is a major issue in NoVA. Ken also said he was not in favor of expanding the Silver Metro line to Dulles based on the costs. Ken is against Medicaid expansion under Obamacare. McAwful is for it and his populist appeal to the "poor" especially children will help get his supporters to the polls. Here in NoVA, expansion of Medicaid to an additional 400,000 people has become something of a Crusade.

Campaign Funding McAwful has a two to one edge in campaign funding. It has enabled him to run more ads. By the way, have you with your substantial property interests in VA contributed to Ken's campaign?

The bottom line is that Ken Cuccinelli is facing an uphill fight and deserves our support, not criticism. He is a tireless campaigner and a real conservative who has been with us in the Tea Party from the very beginning appearing at our events.

38 posted on 10/23/2013 7:43:17 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
Fairfax, eh? It figures.

Blah, blah, blah!

39 posted on 10/23/2013 7:44:31 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Timber Rattler

What a jerk. You haven’t a clue about what is happening in VA.


40 posted on 10/23/2013 7:57:16 AM PDT by kabar
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