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Heretic: NBC Reporter Asks Jay Carney Why Obama was So Wrong on Obamacare
Townhall.com ^ | October 22, 2013 | Michael Schaus

Posted on 10/22/2013 5:50:27 AM PDT by Kaslin

Chuck Todd, with NBC, did what few reporters seem to do in the White House Press Corp when he injected a moment of honest journalism into the Obama-groupie press corps. Asking Jay Carney a tough question is like playing a frame of “the Charleston” for Fred Astaire: Carney laces up his tap dancing shoes for a series of evasions, accusations, and distractions.

NBC’s Chuck Todd asked a simple question:

Five days before the launch, the president said it’s a website where you can compare and purchase affordable health care plans, the same way you shop for a plane ticket on Kayak. Who misled him? Who misled the president on this? Are you telling me five days before that somebody let the president go out to the American public to give this speech and say this and make this promise? In fact, the next line is: I promise you, this is a lot easier, it’s like booking a hotel or plane ticket. Who let him down? (Click here for the video)

The moment of journalism was accepted with reluctant babbling, and repetitive (and often un-related) talking points from the chief White House spokesperson. Todd’s presumption that the Chief Salesman for Obamacare (AKA: President Obama) was simply naive in his comparison, is a cute tactic to paint the Official White House Press-Jester into a corner. But it is off base.

The fact is, the President hasn’t the slightest clue what the private sector is actually like. To progressive liberals such as our campaigner in chief, the “private-sector” is a theoretical source of tax revenue.

Remember when Obama compared the Obamacare exchange “glitches” to a glitch in the newest batch of Apple operating software? The President actually suggested that the implementation of Obamacare was nothing different than predictable glitches in computer software.

Krauthammer Goes Off On Obama Comparing Obamacare Government Glitch To Apple -

Well. . . Aside from the obvious fact that citizens are not mandated by the Federal Government to purchase i-phones (well. . . Not yet. . . Apple should work on that) his ignorance of consumer demand is stunning. Businesses die every day for having failed the expectations or demands of its potential customer base.

As Sam Walton, founder of Walmart, once said, “There is only one boss. The customer. And he can fire everybody in the company from the chairman on down, simply by spending his money somewhere else.” A tech company that implemented a new product or service with Obamacare’s comical lack of competency would, no doubt, find itself at the mercy of a disgruntled and shunning public.

Of course, government has no need to worry about such market forces. They can simply siphon off more taxes from the Sam Waltons of the world.

And Obama’s ridiculous sale’s pitch to the American people – that signing up on an Obamacare exchange would be like booking a hotel room – is no different than his tortured and cartoonish analogy to Apple. Chuck Todd made an astoundingly unexpected moment of journalism amidst the beltway lapdogs reporters in the room: either the President was lying, or he’s terribly incompetent as a chief executive officer of the United States of America.

Because, when viewed through the lens of Todd’s question, our Pitch-Man-in-Chief either intentionally misled the American people on Obamacare’s eventual efficiency; or he himself was misled by a bunch of incompetent fools who wrote 5 million lines of untested, and obviously insufficient, code.

Don’t, however, expect Carney’s little dance session with the NBC reporter to make much of a difference in the public’s opinion of the process. Just this morning the President read a speech on the success of Obamacare from his teleprompter. Three of the fifteen human props behind him had actually enrolled in the exchanges. (Three. . . Out of 300 million US citizens, the Obamacare-defending Administration was able to track down three success stories. Also in attendance: A unicorn and Leprechaun.)

So while American citizens struggle with the new law that mandates the purchase of an increasingly expensive product, our Public-Sector-CEO will continue to spin tales about the success of the law’s Rube Goldberg implementation. Carney will continue to tap dance, Obama will continue to campaign, and a handful of outlying journalists will quietly stumble across moments of actual journalism.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: bho44; healthcaredotgov; miserablefailure; nbcnews

1 posted on 10/22/2013 5:50:27 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

When did the President realize he was wrong? When he saw it on CNN?


2 posted on 10/22/2013 5:51:35 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Kaslin

Translation: Art Carney, this is clearly not the President’s fault. He’s an innocent victim. Who did this?


3 posted on 10/22/2013 5:53:18 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: Kaslin

Did Carney say “I know you’re getting this out there for NBC, Chuck.” Did he stop his little feet and declare the Q&A was over?


4 posted on 10/22/2013 5:53:53 AM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: pepsionice

Are you kidding? He still doesn’t think he’s wrong


5 posted on 10/22/2013 5:55:10 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

"....it's good for everybody, if the president say's so"

6 posted on 10/22/2013 5:55:38 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Kaslin

I’ve got this theory. Barry and the ‘RATS thought they could come up with garbage like ObamaCare, throw it out there and Americans would make it work while the commie ‘RATS were making the rules. Americans are good at turning lemons into lemonade. Well, it looks to me as though America has “gone Galt” this time and left this mess up the communists to fix and figure out.


7 posted on 10/22/2013 5:57:52 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Hold on to your burrito! Here comes amnesty!)
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To: Kaslin

Chuck Todd and journalist in the same sentence. Wow


8 posted on 10/22/2013 5:58:05 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (If global warming exists I hope it is strong enough to reverse the Big Government snowball)
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To: Kaslin
There is one simple unassailable reason why this website cannot work.

All the comparison websites, ones that actually work well like Amazon, EBay, et al where things are bought (and sold), have a common thread - efficient, quick service to a paying customer.

Obama’s website is tragically flawed because it has nothing to do with the above. It is a one-way data mining cumbersome crawler that intermingles with every known database to cross pollenate personal information. Only when its appetite for such is satisfied, it deigns to spurt out some half-assed limited government choice.

9 posted on 10/22/2013 5:58:07 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Kaslin
The title is very misleading. The Big Question: Who let him down? That's hardly a suggestion that Obastard himself was "wrong." It's a ready-made excuse to blame others, served up on a silver platter as we expect an NBC "reporter" to do.
10 posted on 10/22/2013 5:58:45 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (We're At That Awkward Stage: It's too late to vote them out, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: Kaslin

He wasn’t wrong about anything! He now owns you. What’s wrong with that?


11 posted on 10/22/2013 5:59:02 AM PDT by albie
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To: AppyPappy

“The president is focused like a laser beam on fixing this problem that someone else created.”


12 posted on 10/22/2013 5:59:29 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Kaslin
I am really uncomfortable with all this focus on the problems with some website. This frames the debate as an administrative problem with the implementation, rather than focusing on why the law is bad.

Similar to the post-Benghazi focus on the error in blaming the "spontaneous demonstration" on the video, when the real scandal was the lack of response and, even more, the original mission.

13 posted on 10/22/2013 6:02:15 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: Kaslin
He wasn't wrong. He lied.
14 posted on 10/22/2013 6:03:50 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (So Obama "inherited" a mess? Firemen "inherit" messes too. Ever see one put gasoline on it?)
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To: pepsionice; sickoflibs
When did the President realize he was wrong? When he saw it on CNN?

ROTFL---good one.

15 posted on 10/22/2013 6:04:04 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Has any lib been made to answer -

Did he know he was lying when he said we could keep our plan, our doctor, and reduce our premiums by $2500?
Or was he just ignorant?


16 posted on 10/22/2013 6:05:11 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin
Chuck Todd and journalist in the same sentence. Wow.

They just misspelled JournoList.

17 posted on 10/22/2013 6:05:42 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To win the country back, we need to be as mean as the Libs say we are.)
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To: Kaslin
Damn, a little Drive-by-Journalism from Chuck Todd.
Kinda reminds me of the golden age of journalism when reporters asked real policy questions.
Now I wonder if Todd will next be covering the Westminster Dog Show.
18 posted on 10/22/2013 6:06:10 AM PDT by Tupelo ( Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. An old Republican Tradition.)
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To: Kaslin

Chuck Todd is simply trying to save the president (small”p” intended) from going down with the USS Obamacare.


19 posted on 10/22/2013 6:06:48 AM PDT by teletech (Say NO to RINOS!)
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To: Kaslin
bama will continue to campaign, and a handful of outlying journalists will quietly stumble across moments of actual journalism.

Ha, yeah. Rush calls it, "random acts of journalism".

20 posted on 10/22/2013 6:08:26 AM PDT by corlorde (forWARD of the state)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

Everyone should face facts. Clown Prince nobama, is minions and his enablers are self-loathing idiots who crave Communism. They all should be in prison or deported. Some may feel this is an extreme view, but they are quislings. Free America is threatened by many enemies both from within and from outside. The Founding Fathers would have manned the barricades a long time ago. Sad, isn’t it?


21 posted on 10/22/2013 6:08:42 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Liz; pepsionice
RE :”When did the President realize he was wrong? When he saw it on CNN?.....
ROTFL-—good one.”

Like I said in another thread, watching NBC Chuck Todd beat up on Jay Carney on the above point was a joy.

But Chuck, a bigger issue and problem is millions of Americans who are losing their insurance under Obamacare only to find Obamacare policies expensive and crappy;. Start reporting on that.

22 posted on 10/22/2013 6:09:44 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: Kaslin
He still doesn’t think he’s wrong

"I didn't build that."

23 posted on 10/22/2013 6:10:28 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

I sort of agree with you, but I also see it as ...

...look at the amount of private information the government needs from YOU to administer this program....

they need SO MUCH that even a computer can’t collate and sort through the information and/or regulations to keep you from breaking some part of the 0bamacare law.


24 posted on 10/22/2013 6:14:13 AM PDT by EBH ( The Day of the Patriot has arrived.)
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To: teletech

Just call him resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave


25 posted on 10/22/2013 6:16:28 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

To qote Obama yesterday...”its really good”!


26 posted on 10/22/2013 6:17:38 AM PDT by R0CK3T
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To: Kaslin

Obamacare is the defining element of his presidency, he is the architect. Yet, he is distancing himself from Obamacare he had nothing to do with it other than try to implement someone else’s ideas and Chuck Todd is his enabler, “WHO LET HIM DOWN”.

If that’s the case, there needs to be a disclaimer on all his statements.

“This is a dramatization and can not be relied on as truth. The persons/person in this commercial are paid actors and not responsible for any inaccuracies.”


27 posted on 10/22/2013 6:18:14 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: MrB

He lied. He lies. He’ll keep on lying.


28 posted on 10/22/2013 6:21:24 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (So Obama "inherited" a mess? Firemen "inherit" messes too. Ever see one put gasoline on it?)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

I think a lot of rats would be more willing to say he lied (for a good cause) than that he was intellectually deficient.

There is very little reason to BE a “liberal” than to [falsely] feel morally and intellectually superior.


29 posted on 10/22/2013 6:24:05 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Kaslin

The fastest way to single payer is to destroy the current system.

Mission accomplished.

To Obama, this is an unqualified success.


30 posted on 10/22/2013 6:46:33 AM PDT by IncPen (When you start talking about what we 'should' have, you've made the case for the Second Amendment)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

As a mental exercise, just imagine if President Bush had proposed such a plan, and implemented it as poorly as Obama’s administration. Every Republican would be tied to it for the next several generations, and there would be one-party rule by Democrats across all branches and levels of our government.


31 posted on 10/22/2013 6:53:26 AM PDT by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: TangoLimaSierra

Make that urinalist.


32 posted on 10/22/2013 7:01:21 AM PDT by MisterArtery
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To: TangoLimaSierra

It is one thing to ask the question. If it is not answered, it should be followed up. If Todd can’t get a followup question in, the next reporter recognized should simply say: “Can we get an answer to Chuck Todd’s question?”


33 posted on 10/22/2013 7:08:30 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: Trailerpark Badass

Here’s my view on the website problems: 30 million uninsured. $300 million just for the website. I am not great at math, but couldn’t that money have been given to the 30 million uninsured at $10 million per person? I bet you could buy a pretty good health insurance plan for that.


34 posted on 10/22/2013 7:09:09 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: Kaslin

Wrong Optics... Chuck Todd was applying a new coat of Teflon to BO & gave Barkey a chance to blame an underling...

The bigger question is what would have been asked of a Republican Admin (ie Katrina)...


35 posted on 10/22/2013 7:09:11 AM PDT by bfh333 ("Hope"... "Change"... You better HOPE you have some CHANGE after the next 4 years!)
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To: bfh333

“Wrong Optics... Chuck Todd was applying a new coat of Teflon to BO & gave Barkey a chance to blame an underling...

Bingo!


36 posted on 10/22/2013 7:16:12 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: pepsionice

Maybe a beer summit instead of a tech surge will make it all better...


37 posted on 10/22/2013 7:22:34 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: NCLaw441

$300M / 10M people =? $10/person


38 posted on 10/22/2013 7:31:19 AM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

Clearly, with a budget of $300M or whatever, a properly functioning website was not a significant objective. Perhaps it could be better named Manchurian healthcare...


39 posted on 10/22/2013 7:34:06 AM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: SteveH

Yeah, as is obvious, I stink at math, especially when I REALLY wanted to make a point. Sorry to all.


40 posted on 10/22/2013 7:39:03 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: SteveH

Unfortunately, we’ll probably get to a number that makes me right after all....


41 posted on 10/22/2013 7:40:00 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: Kaslin

Nobody had to mislead Obama. Obama just thinks that when he makes a fancy speech about something, then everything will just fall into line. So the computers will do what he says, and that’s that.

But computers don’t respond to spin and BS - they just know zero or one, on or off - and if your logic is faulty or you misunderstand physical constraints, you’re dead.

So Obama can talk and talk and spin and spin, but the computer won’t be bludgeoned. Obama has met his nemesis.


42 posted on 10/22/2013 7:43:28 AM PDT by BusterBear
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To: Kaslin
How many times have we since this since 2007? It's simple,folks, Obama lies when it will serve his purpose. He has never been held accountable.
43 posted on 10/22/2013 7:50:34 AM PDT by ratzoe (damn, I miss Barbara Olson)
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To: ratzoe

And with his butt kissing lame stream media he will never be held accountable


44 posted on 10/22/2013 8:02:33 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

Collectivism, in the end, is only efficient at killing people. Tens of millions of people.

Everything else it tries? Well, picture Larry Moe and Curly running the government.


45 posted on 10/22/2013 8:12:07 AM PDT by lurk
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To: Doogle
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46 posted on 10/22/2013 8:30:32 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: Kaslin

The image of the old phone at the top of this piece is waaayyy to sophisticated for what’s going on.

I’m thinking two Dixie Cups and some string!


47 posted on 10/22/2013 8:51:25 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: NCLaw441

Not only are you not “great” at math, you’re downright horrible. It’s ten bucks a head.


48 posted on 10/22/2013 2:09:38 PM PDT by newbie 10-21-00
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To: newbie 10-21-00

For my next trick I will rewrite the ACA website code.


49 posted on 10/23/2013 4:59:16 PM PDT by NCLaw441
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