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Mark Steyn: No reason to believe GOP will ever repeal Obamacare
Daily Caller ^ | Tuesday Oct 22, 2013

Posted on 10/22/2013 3:58:13 PM PDT by Bigtigermike

“[I] mean, Mitch McConnell’s line is now, ‘Oh, just let — Obamacare is going to be so self-evidently destructive that when we win our spectacular victory in the Senate election and the next presidential election, we will be able to repeal it and roll it back.’ When do the Republicans ever do that?

Those Carter-era innovations like the entirely useless federal Department of Education, the federal Energy Department, even the National Endowment of the Arts — when for decades it has been mocked for giving public monies to crucifixes floating in urine, homoerotic photography involving bullwhips attractively positioned — none of those nickel and dime things have the Republican Party succeeded in rolling back. What are the odds that when this thing implodes, the Republicans are going to be making a tremendous case for genuine free choice in health care that Obamacare will be repealed?

“I don’t see that"

"I think the danger here, Joe, once it’s a disaster, is people will — the government for one always doubles down on, for start, always doubles down on disasters. If it’s a disaster, they’ll say we need more government interference,” he continued. “We need a tighter government system. We need more government control. We need government-owned hospitals. We need government-employed doctors. We need government-employed nurses.”

“Is it more likely that they say that, or that the Mitch McConnell line, ‘Well Obamacare has imploded, so we can set up a proper private health care system in the rubble,’ is going to work?” Steyn said. “I think that is way too complacent. Republicans have been complacent about the Department of Education, the National Endowment of the Arts and everything else for decades and that’s why they haven’t reversed any of them. I mean, Joe, where do you go on this?

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 113th; gop; obama; obamacare; steyn; wimps

1 posted on 10/22/2013 3:58:13 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Bigtigermike

damn undocumented sinister foreign national surrender monkey!

/sarc


2 posted on 10/22/2013 4:01:07 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Even when we are seventeen trillions dollars in debt and bankrupt, we have yet to close out a single useless department of government. Not one.

You’d think that the “government shutdown” in which “non-essential” departments are closed, would give us a hint as to the way forward. But Repubs are so busy wetting themselves in fear that they never proposed closing a single one.


3 posted on 10/22/2013 4:02:15 PM PDT by marron
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To: Bigtigermike

Mark Steyn is so on the money here.

What about the track records of the Surrender Monkey and Collaborator caucuses would ever lead a serious conservative, or even a mind-numbed pull-the-lever everytime GOP voter to believe that they would ever decrease the size of government?


4 posted on 10/22/2013 4:05:36 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Bigtigermike

Unless a majority of Dems and collectivist Pubbies are voted out of office in both the Senate and House.


5 posted on 10/22/2013 4:07:44 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Bigtigermike; GeronL; Revolting cat!

It’s on their big list of things to repeal along with:
Social Security
The Death Tax
Gun Registration (er.. background “checks”)


6 posted on 10/22/2013 4:09:04 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Bigtigermike; GeronL; Revolting cat!

And the “temporary” Income Tax (I knew there was another item I wanted to list when I clicked “Reply”).


7 posted on 10/22/2013 4:09:54 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: SoConPubbie

The symbiotic relationship between government and finance has existed since 1790 when Hamilton got his bank scheme pushed through. Every government agency of any size develops a clientele that is wealthy enough to prevent its destruction. Public Education, for instance, is a huge “industry “ that “feeds” hundreds of billions to companies all over the country.


8 posted on 10/22/2013 4:13:36 PM PDT by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: Bigtigermike

The GOP will never get past a RAT filibuster constituted as it is.


9 posted on 10/22/2013 4:21:36 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (ZeroCare: Make them pay; do not delay.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Actually I agree that Obamacare will never be “repealed”; because the Republicans would have to have 2/3rds majorities in both houses to do so. However that does not mean that we are stuck with it.

Congress just stops funding it. It will have no offices, no employees, no enforcement, no reimbursements, and then congress passes new laws exempting everyone from belonging to it. If the IRS tries to enforce it, the IRS has its budget reduced.

Congress then deletes the government databases filled with health information about individuals, it repeals the vile HIPAA, and likely creates a lifetime waiver for any citizen who does not wish to contribute to or receive benefits from a federal healthcare plan, possibly social security and medicare, and other federal largess programs, strangling them for money.

Eventually they tear down LBJ’s Great Society, FDR’s New Deal, and take the country back to where it was before the Great Depression, with serious controls over banking, investment, insurance and liability.


10 posted on 10/22/2013 4:22:24 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Welfare is the new euphemism for Eugenics.)
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To: Bigtigermike

The GOP always surrenders


11 posted on 10/22/2013 4:23:36 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Bigtigermike

This seems like a good place to share a tidbit from the Mark Levin broadcast.

Mark played a clip of Chuck Schumer referred to applying the “McConnell Rule”:

It was Mitch “Kentucky Kickback” McConnell”s idea to cede all financial power to the president concerning debt ceilings, so he could raise the debt ceiling any time, on a whim, without having to consult congress.

I kid you not.

This is how corrupt the sacks of human waste have gotten, and how far gone the GOP is. I fear we are witnessing the last days of this once great nation.

Damn Mitch McConnell and every lowlife maggot traitor like him.


12 posted on 10/22/2013 4:36:47 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears ("There's always free cheese in a mousetrap." - Marine Col. Peter Martino)
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To: Bigtigermike

Obamacare will never be repealed. Please, someone tell me I am wrong.


13 posted on 10/22/2013 4:38:57 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Producing Talk Show Prep since 1998.)
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To: Bigtigermike

THEY LOVE RomneyCARE. It is the GOP/Romney/Soros Agenda
that agrees with, and protects, the Tyrant they put in.


14 posted on 10/22/2013 4:39:59 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: marron
Like Steyn pointed out, the GOP hasn't managed to stop a single dime going to fund crucifixes in urine and bullwhips up backsides passing as 'art' even when they've had control of the WH and congress.

They will not shrink government. Best start looking for other ways to get it done.

15 posted on 10/22/2013 4:41:49 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter

>> Like Steyn pointed out, the GOP hasn’t managed to stop a single dime

It placates the constituency while giving priority to Big Money.


16 posted on 10/22/2013 4:49:41 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric

GOP officeholders have the easiest jobs in the world - rail against the NEA and make small government & pro-life noises once every election - and sit on their arse collecting campaign donations the rest of the time.


17 posted on 10/22/2013 4:55:38 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: VRW Conspirator
Obamacare will never be repealed. Please, someone tell me I am wrong.

You're wrong.

It will likely be replaced by single payer sometime in the next few decades.

18 posted on 10/22/2013 5:01:16 PM PDT by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Bigtigermike

So, morally speaking, who is worse?

Your sworn enemy, whose goal to defeat and destroy you is clear, and clearly stated. Or...

or your own traitorous generals that are collaborating with the sworn enemy while they are claiming to be fighting for you even as they are plotting your enslavement?

Mitch McConnell is a traitor who is, at this very moment, selling us out. A Judas.


19 posted on 10/22/2013 5:03:42 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Kip Russell
It will likely be replaced by single payer sometime in the next few decades.

A lot sooner than that.

I got an email yesterday from a buddy in the UK (who lived in the states for some time). "ObamaCare is many times worse than the NHS".

From someone who really knows. This is no longer academic, it's the real thing.

20 posted on 10/22/2013 5:07:53 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

People in KY wouldn’t vote for Lincoln, but they seem to think McC represents them.


21 posted on 10/22/2013 5:11:29 PM PDT by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs have spoken: "It's Jebbie's turn!" to LOSE!)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Maybe we should blame AL for McC; that’s where he comes from but never mentions its.


22 posted on 10/22/2013 5:12:30 PM PDT by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs have spoken: "It's Jebbie's turn!" to LOSE!)
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To: VRW Conspirator

-——Obamacare will never be repealed. Please, someone tell me I am wrong.-——

Here is your answer....name one, just one federal program this massive that has been repealed or even defunded in the last 50 years...


23 posted on 10/22/2013 5:13:07 PM PDT by Popman (Liberal wars are about killing people for humanitarian reasons...)
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To: SoConPubbie
Mark Steyn is so on the money here.

The totally wrong people get elected to office.

24 posted on 10/22/2013 5:18:02 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Bigtigermike

I really don’t want the GOP to pick my next president.
I believe they will make sure Hillary wins.


25 posted on 10/22/2013 5:28:27 PM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll eventually get what you deserve)
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To: Popman; Kip Russell
Here is your answer....name one, just one federal program this massive that has been repealed or even defunded in the last 50 years...

You're wrong. It will likely be replaced by single payer sometime in the next few decades.

(holding ears)La, la, la, la, la...

26 posted on 10/22/2013 5:52:58 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Producing Talk Show Prep since 1998.)
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To: Bigtigermike
Mark, Mark, Mark! You're such an ingenue ....

Or maybe you honestly think the American People would implode if they knew how vicious, how coldly self-seeking and cynical their leadership is -- and here I specifically reference the E-GOP.

They sold out back in 2007 on health care because S&P 500 CEO's were on their backs day and night, raving and caving about their employee healthcare premiums.

Obamacare is the FIX, not the "problem". Of course the E-GOP isn't going to fix the FIX !

27 posted on 10/22/2013 5:58:55 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Bigtigermike

“No reason to believe GOP will ever repeal Obamacare”

Yup. Pretty much the same thing on the balanced budget. You might remember when the gop was out of power way back when, they talked a lot about a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution. Then they ended up in power. Both houses of Congress and the Presidency.

And so ended gop talk of a balanced budget amendment.


28 posted on 10/22/2013 6:01:15 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: Bigtigermike
No reason to believe GOP

- A more apt title

29 posted on 10/22/2013 6:06:45 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

Gee, Chucky Schumer told a nasty tale about someone he hates and now YOU choose to believe schmucky Chucky?

But, hey, you’re not alone.

Anthony Weiner trusted Schumer, too.

Sometimes I wonder what the Obama-kiddies will do once they figure out that Obama (and Schumer) “bought” their votes with money stolen from those kids’ own futures...

It could be a GOP landslide in 2016!


30 posted on 10/22/2013 6:30:09 PM PDT by pfony1 (Add just 6 GOP Senators and we "bury" Harry)
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To: marron
True, and what's ironic about the shutdown is that the GOP have no plans to do anything
once Zerocare is actually fixed. They've accepted it and are just bitching and whining
for show to their voter base. Cruz has a plan but he's slowly being shut out of the MSM reports.
Expect to hear less about him as he ramps it up. Hope I'm wrong.
31 posted on 10/22/2013 6:36:37 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: Bigtigermike
Mark Steyn: No reason to believe GOP will ever repeal Obamacare

Well gee, Mark, then what can be done? Is there any alternative left? Is there anything you can do, in particular, with your bully pulpit, to change things for the better? Any information you can get out to the public, since you love America so much?

Think hard.

32 posted on 10/22/2013 6:38:51 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: pfony1

Stick it up your Obama. If you didn’t hear the show (and Mark Levin certainly is ripping McConnell, and rightly so) and you don’t think McConnell is a sellout, you are not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

But hey, keep believing the McCains and McConnells, the Lindsey Grahams and the Karl Roves.

Or you can wake up like the rest of us.


33 posted on 10/22/2013 7:10:47 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears ("There's always free cheese in a mousetrap." - Marine Col. Peter Martino)
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To: pfony1
>>Gee, Chucky Schumer told a nasty tale about someone he hates and now YOU choose to believe schmucky Chucky?<<

Chucky Schmucky wasn't lying. See for yourself. Or do your own research. McConnell is a sellout.

"Senate minority leader Mitch McConnell has floated a proposal for a couple years now as a last-chance way to avert a crisis and allow the president to raise the debt ceiling without congressional approval, with Congress having the ability to strip that authority with a two-thirds veto — and that’s sort of what the bill to be voted on tonight provides for (see pages 24 ff. of the bill)."

LINK

34 posted on 10/22/2013 7:15:33 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears ("There's always free cheese in a mousetrap." - Marine Col. Peter Martino)
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To: Popman

Your timeline is too short.


35 posted on 10/22/2013 7:16:02 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: pfony1

The sooner you realize the GOP is selling us out, the better off you will be.


36 posted on 10/22/2013 7:16:46 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears ("There's always free cheese in a mousetrap." - Marine Col. Peter Martino)
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To: Talisker; All

In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled Mark Steyn: No reason to believe GOP will ever repeal Obamacare , Talisker wrote:
Mark Steyn: No reason to believe GOP will ever repeal Obamacare
Well gee, Mark, then what can be done? Is there any alternative left? Is there anything you can do, in particular, with your bully pulpit, to change things for the better? Any information you can get out to the public, since you love America so much?

Think hard.

“Not with a bang but a whimper”
In 7th grade in a Catholic grammar school in the 40’s this nun reflected on GK Chesterton’s observation. Her comment went over my head at the time and she had as much of a chance or the means to make the changes needed as Stein does. All they can do is make you aware of the reality. Nothing gets changed by whimpering.


37 posted on 10/22/2013 9:29:55 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: Bigtigermike

He’s right.

If they wanted to stop it, they would.


38 posted on 10/22/2013 11:43:43 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Congress then deletes the government databases filled with health information about individuals,

Dream on they will want to use this information for the same reasons they used captured NAZI and Japanese doctors that practiced the most evil of medical experiments.

Mark is right on except he seems to be under the illusion that the GOPe was ever opposed to government control of health care.

39 posted on 10/22/2013 11:48:33 PM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: VRW Conspirator
Obamacare will never be repealed. Please, someone tell me I am wrong.

Nope, can't do that, wouldn't be prudent.

40 posted on 10/22/2013 11:49:53 PM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: marron

Republicans are no worse than the average voter.


41 posted on 10/23/2013 1:25:33 AM PDT by x_plus_one
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To: Bigtigermike

The GOP response toward democrat determination to burn down the country has been to bring marshmallows.


42 posted on 10/23/2013 1:49:01 AM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: VRW Conspirator

YOU’RE WRONG!...no...well...actually...all we can hope is that the libs will change the subject and forget about it!


43 posted on 10/23/2013 5:24:04 AM PDT by gr8eman (Ron Swanson for President!)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

So, are you saying that the President DOES get to name the “debt ceiling” he wants — now and forever?

No?

So, aren’t you saying that the “sell-out” you referenced was NOT a “sell-out”, in fact?

Gee, maybe that non-existant “sell-out” explains why SCHUMER was so angry at McConnell that he was willing to lie about McConnell. (OK... OK... Schmucky is ALWAYS willing to lie.)

But why would anyone with an IQ above a Weiner’s IQ BELIEVE Chucky’s self-serving lies?

I suppose that the fairy-tale of a McConnell “sell-out” polled well among the Daily Kos types employed by the Spite House, so I suppose they will try to use that fairy-tale to snatch a safe Republican Senate seat for the Democrats.

Please don’t bother telling me that MSNBC shares your “interpretation”... I’m sure they do.


44 posted on 10/23/2013 6:35:56 AM PDT by pfony1 (Add just 6 GOP Senators and we "bury" Harry)
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