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Satire Gone Too Far? The Onion Hurls Slurs At Redskins Owner
WCBS TV NYC ^ | October 22, 2013

Posted on 10/22/2013 5:22:46 PM PDT by Pharmboy

Edited on 10/22/2013 5:50:31 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Publication's Take On Team Nickname Debate Raises Many Eyebrows

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) – A satirical publication is making real news with its take on the debate surrounding the Washington Redskins nickname.

An article posted to The Onion’s website on Monday featured anti-Semitic slurs and stereotypes aimed at Redskins owner Daniel Snyder, who is Jewish.

Under the headline, “Redskins’ K— Owner Refuses To Change Team’s Offensive Name,” The Onion referred to Snyder as “hook-nosed” and “shifty-eyed.” The K-word was used three times, once in the headline and twice again in the story — and it wasn’t the only derogatory term used.

Snyder has insisted the team will continue to be called the Redskins despite growing opposition to the name. Those calling for a change include the Oneida Indian Nation, a tribe in upstate New York.

Veteran broadcaster Bob Costas called the team’s moniker “an insult” and “a slur” during a Sunday Night Football editorial earlier this month.

Did The Onion go too far with its satire? Reaction on Twitter ranged from applause to outrage.

“The Onion makes its point by crossing the line,” one person tweeted.

Another wrote that The Onion failed “in a big, pretty disgusting, way.”


TOPICS: Extended News; US: District of Columbia; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bobcostas; danielsnyder; districtofcolumbia; liberalmedia; newyork; oneidaindiannation; redskins; redskinsname; satire; theonion; twitter
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They did make their point...but is this what's going on? Is calling an Indian a Redskin as bad as calling a Jew a kike? Maybe it is...

The upstate NY Oneidas started this anti-Redskin movement most recently. They were the only tribe of the Iroquois Nation to fight on the Patriot side against the Brits. We owe them a good listen.

1 posted on 10/22/2013 5:22:46 PM PDT by Pharmboy
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Oops...please take the photo down. Just noticed it was Getty. Sorry.


2 posted on 10/22/2013 5:23:47 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: Pharmboy
I have no idea how the Baseball Indians get away with this. Makes even me cringe, a little bit:
3 posted on 10/22/2013 5:26:27 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Pharmboy
The upstate NY Oneidas started this anti-Redskin movement most recently. They were the only tribe of the Iroquois Nation to fight on the Patriot side against the Brits. We owe them a good listen.

Except the rabble-rouser who started it was exposed as not being an Oneida at all, but a fake, and Obama bundler.

4 posted on 10/22/2013 5:27:13 PM PDT by montag813 (NO AMNESTY * ENFORCE THE LAW * http://StandWithArizona.com)
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To: Pharmboy

5 posted on 10/22/2013 5:27:51 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Obama's favorite game is Pin the Fail on the Honkey!)
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To: Pharmboy

From what I understand, about 90-95% of Native Americans either like the nam or don’t care about the issue. I suspect the Oneida Tribe is getting paid off by someone like Soros. Snyder said that the name would not be changing and that sort of comment is a challenge to those who would take control of everything that they could in this once freer nation. I think the ‘K’ word is exponentially worse than the term Redskin.


6 posted on 10/22/2013 5:29:05 PM PDT by originalbuckeye (Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy)
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To: Pharmboy

Sure, Giants fans don’t like the Redskins, but they don’t care if short people, or tall people for that matter, are offended.

Cowboys fans don’t like the Redskins either.

So is “Celtics” racist? How about the 49ers? Do the Oakland Athletics show a prejudice against fat people? Perhaps the Oakland Raiders reveal a prejudice against Wall Street brokers? Are the Panthers opposed to a black supremacist political party?


7 posted on 10/22/2013 5:36:35 PM PDT by donmeaker (The lessons of Weimar will soon be repeated.)
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To: originalbuckeye

Interesting history of the word:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/02/AR2005100201139.html


8 posted on 10/22/2013 5:37:32 PM PDT by DManA
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Is calling an Indian a Redskin as bad as calling a Jew a kike?

It's my understanding that "kike" is on the level of "honky," "cracker," "Uncle Tom" or "Tío Taco"--almost always used with malice. "Redskin" is only used with malice by rival football fans.

9 posted on 10/22/2013 5:38:03 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Pharmboy
“They did make their point...but is this what's going on? Is calling an Indian a Redskin as bad as calling a Jew a kike? Maybe it is...
The upstate NY Oneidas started this anti-Redskin movement most recently. They were the only tribe of the Iroquois Nation to fight on the Patriot side against the Brits. We owe them a good listen.”

The people who started this are NOT the Oneida Indians. They are political activists.

90% of people are not offended and don't care. A few people in the MSM are stirring this up.

What about the Atlanta Braves, Cleveland Indians, Chicago Blackhawks etc.?

10 posted on 10/22/2013 5:42:48 PM PDT by detective
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To: Fiji Hill
Good point.

Interesting that no one so far addressed the issue of whether The Onion went too far.

11 posted on 10/22/2013 5:45:17 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: montag813

Yes...I did see something about that, but he says he has proof. I will look into that further. Thank you.


12 posted on 10/22/2013 5:46:11 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: detective

What makes you think they would stop at the Redskins?


13 posted on 10/22/2013 5:46:34 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: donmeaker

don’t forget the Pirates, the Patriots, the Vikings... Buccaneers... where does it end? and don’t get PETA started with all the animal names... sheesh...


14 posted on 10/22/2013 5:47:24 PM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: Fiji Hill

I always thought the word ‘kike’ was worse, but I am not Jewish. Maybe Snyder should go with ‘the tighty whiteys’.


15 posted on 10/22/2013 5:47:34 PM PDT by originalbuckeye (Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy)
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To: Pharmboy

Many moons ago tribe move west because Pilgrims ruin neighborhood. Tribe travel west, over country and mountains and wild streams, then come big day... tribe fall over cliff, that when Hekawi get name. Medicine man say to my ancestor, “I think we lost. Where the heck are we?”

no one really gives a chit about the indians. They are not protected class. Screw em they have gaming rights.


16 posted on 10/22/2013 5:47:48 PM PDT by Autonomous User (Pain Fades. Chicks Dig Scars. Glory, lasts forever.)
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To: DManA

Indians, Braves, Fl. St. Seminoles (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dvz-l9SGoW8 ) chant, KC Chiefs, SD State Aztecs,Blackhawks, the list is too long of “racist” names.

Lets ban them all( sarc off):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_sports_team_and_mascot_names


17 posted on 10/22/2013 5:48:50 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45 ( Americans, happy in tutelage by the reflection that they have chosen their own dictators.)
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To: donmeaker

funny how they don’t cry about the Yankees... why is that okay if Redskins is not? hypocrites!


18 posted on 10/22/2013 5:49:13 PM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: detective

I remember when the libtards raised a fuss about Florida State using the name Seminoles. The real Seminoles told the libtards to lighten up, besides, many of them were FSU fans.


19 posted on 10/22/2013 5:49:52 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: Pharmboy

I think it’s about radicalizing the natives as it was done the blacks.


20 posted on 10/22/2013 5:53:14 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Pharmboy
There's a big difference between Redskins and Kike. That's like saying black is the same as ni$$er. Call them the Thin-Skins and keep a symbol resembling something from the NY tribe that's complaining. Or he could change the name to the only unprotected group, The White-Skins.
21 posted on 10/22/2013 5:54:40 PM PDT by peeps36 (I'm Not A Racist, I Hate Douchebags of All Colors)
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To: latina4dubya

My college went from being the UL-Monroe Indians to being the Warhawks. I refuse to buy any caps or shirts that say Warhawk on it.


22 posted on 10/22/2013 5:54:59 PM PDT by gop4lyf (Are we no longer in that awkward time? Or is it still too early?)
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To: Pharmboy

My response to liberals when this comes up: how vigorously did you oppose Elizabeth Warren when she ran for the senate seat in Mass? I then point out (when they say they didn’t), that here was a case of a person fraudulently using programs designed to help native americans for her own selfish interests, and the fact that you were silent then, but only are heard on a purely symbolic issue, makes you a racist hypocrite.

It doesn’t win me any friends, but it does silence them rather effectively.


23 posted on 10/22/2013 5:56:30 PM PDT by jjsheridan5 (what would efren do?)
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To: DManA

They are phasing out Chief Wahoo slowly but surely. More of the uniform combinations have a script “Indians” or the letter C on their caps. The Chief has been relegated to the batting helmet and a small patch on their sleeve.


24 posted on 10/22/2013 5:58:39 PM PDT by Typelouder
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To: latina4dubya

PeTA actually came up with a position on the football team name. They suggested leaving the name alone and replace the mascot with a potato.


25 posted on 10/22/2013 6:03:15 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (We're At That Awkward Stage: It's too late to vote them out, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: gop4lyf

Yeah, something similar happened to my old high school. Redskins ==> Redhawks ==> No Sale.


26 posted on 10/22/2013 6:04:51 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (We're At That Awkward Stage: It's too late to vote them out, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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If indians didnt like the name, they shoulda said something when the team first formed. It shouldnt take 80 years to get offended


27 posted on 10/22/2013 6:06:39 PM PDT by ac-rep
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To: montag813

Who was it that started all of this BS about the Redskins ?


28 posted on 10/22/2013 6:11:24 PM PDT by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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I remember when I used to root for Stanford, "Go Indians!!".

"Go Redwood Trees" just doesn't have the ring to it, and Cardinal is a darker red color, so "Go Darkies" might cause problems nowadays, but "Go Reds" fits well.

29 posted on 10/22/2013 6:12:17 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Pharmboy

It’s over. The Redskins will be renamed before the 2014 pre-season opens, it’s only a question of how much the team will pay American Indian charities between now and then.


30 posted on 10/22/2013 6:17:00 PM PDT by only1percent
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To: peeps36

Good post. Thanks.


31 posted on 10/22/2013 6:20:33 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: donmeaker
The activists who oppose the name "Redskins" also oppose names such as "Eagles," "Cardinals" and a variety of other names they deem to be the property of the so-called "Native Americans." Almost 50 years ago I graduated from a high school whose team name was "Indians." The school closed in the early 80's due to population movement within the county.

Several years ago, the population moved back in and the school reopened. Now the team is named the "Gladiators."

So I guess it's not appropriate to have a team named after an ethnic group, but it's perfectly fine to name a team after a class of enslaved captives who are required to combat each other with deadly weapons and dispatch each other for the entertainment of a decadent class of Patricians.



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32 posted on 10/22/2013 6:23:21 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN - 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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If Snyder were a black instead of a Jew would the Onion have used the “N” word each place it used the “K” word?

No Way.

Therefore, it’s not equivalence that they’re driving for. They’re not courageous....they simply outed themselves as ZwiebelNazis.


33 posted on 10/22/2013 6:32:25 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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...but it's perfectly fine to name a team after a class of enslaved captives who are required to combat each other with deadly weapons and dispatch each other for the entertainment of a decadent class of Patricians.

Excellent point, as the current media is nothing more than the Praetorian Guard.

34 posted on 10/22/2013 6:34:16 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Jonty30

Perhaps we need a Humor Czar to regulate parody? I nominate Gilbert Gottfried.


35 posted on 10/22/2013 6:41:14 PM PDT by bfkirk
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"Is calling an Indian a Redskin as bad as calling a Jew a kike?"

Nope.

"They were the only tribe of the Iroquois Nation to fight on the Patriot side against the Brits. We owe them a good listen."

Oh puh-lease. We? Speak for yourself. I owe them approximately jack-squat. Because their ancestors determined that scalping Brits was more profitable than scalping Yankees, we should take their whining about the name of a sports team seriously?

36 posted on 10/22/2013 6:42:19 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12----No king but Christ! Don't tread on me!)
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The Onion goes too far every day though, so what's the point of getting outraged? You'll just end up on Literally Unbelievable.
37 posted on 10/22/2013 6:52:56 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: xzins

Excellent point. Thank you.


38 posted on 10/22/2013 6:56:00 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

You don’t know your history.

When I said “we” I absolutely didn’t mean you. Sorry...I should have been clearer.


39 posted on 10/22/2013 6:59:23 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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Yep, someplace in the front of their minds is a little place that says, “It’s OK to attack Jews.”


40 posted on 10/22/2013 7:01:37 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Pharmboy

Thanks, but no listen. Redskins, Go Redskins! And, I am not a fan!


41 posted on 10/22/2013 7:05:01 PM PDT by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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I'd hazard I a guess that I know and understand more history than most.

But to the main issue here -- I'm dog-tired of listening to people whine. Every democrat-voting demographic is offended by something that normal Americans recognize as harmless. Not a day passes without another round of whining, complaining, griping, bitching moaning from the left about perfectly harmless things.

It would not be possible, for me to care any less about their whining. I've had it.

42 posted on 10/22/2013 7:07:06 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12----No king but Christ! Don't tread on me!)
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To: Pharmboy

If Mr. Snyder changes the name of his team to ANYNAME other than REDSKINS, I move that we strike all “Indian” names from use. No more states, rivers, towns, counties, lakes will be called what they are called today. NO MORE INDIAN NAMES, PERIOD!

Take that you PC Assholes. (not that I feel strongly about this matter)


43 posted on 10/22/2013 7:12:42 PM PDT by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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To: DManA

I like it. It’s real, it’s funny, and it’s fun.


44 posted on 10/22/2013 7:23:53 PM PDT by slouper (LWRC M6A2)
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To: detective

I just want to know what Bob Kostas (Greek?) thinks, then I’ll make a decision.


45 posted on 10/22/2013 7:26:43 PM PDT by slouper (LWRC M6A2)
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To: Cyber Liberty

and then we will have the vegetarians harping on the POTATOES...


46 posted on 10/22/2013 7:31:50 PM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: Pharmboy

I remember an Indian baseball team in B.C.’s Chilcotin back in the ‘70s who called themselves the “Wagon-Burners”.

Natives have a great sense of humor, generally.


47 posted on 10/22/2013 7:35:41 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: latina4dubya

I know. Who could pick on a po lil’ spud???


48 posted on 10/22/2013 7:37:33 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (We're At That Awkward Stage: It's too late to vote them out, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: Pharmboy

I thought that the indians lost the war....why do they get to make the rules?? The entire concept of “Indian Nations” within this country is asinine at best....cut off the welfare, mainline them, like everyone else, and get the hell out of the 18th century.


49 posted on 10/22/2013 7:58:02 PM PDT by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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and don’t get PETA started with all the animal names

what do you think that the Packers pack????????????meat

50 posted on 10/22/2013 7:59:58 PM PDT by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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