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It begins: Demsí number two in the House calls for more money for ObamaCare website
Hotair ^ | 10/23/2013 | AllahPundit

Posted on 10/23/2013 7:21:18 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The best part of this is that he admits he doesn’t know if the site actually needs more money or not. “Give them a little” is something he seems to say almost reflexively, I guess because when a government program is failing badly, that’s just what you do. For Hoyer, throwing another hundred million or two into this quicksand is really just a symbolic vote of confidence in it, I think, nothing more. When you’re $17 trillion in debt, it’s all Monopoly money at this point anyway.

I wonder if he knows that the site’s already three times over budget. I know he wouldn’t care if he did know, but does he know? I’m curious to see just how closely the Democratic leadership is following the growth of this precious little pony they gifted to America.

Asked Tuesday how Congress could help improve the system by which millions of Americans must buy insurance by the end of the year, the House minority whip and Maryland Democrat said, “We can give them a little money.”

“[Republicans have] been pretty much focused in the House of Representatives on undermining the implementation of the Affordable Care Act in every which way that we possibly could,” he said.

Hoyer admitted that he does not know whether the project, which has already cost more than $400 million, has faced funding problems. “I don’t think that’s the reason,” he said. “If I know that, I’ll blame it.”…

“I certainly believe it’s a bad performance,” Hoyer said. “Obviously this was not done the way it should have been done, and I’m sure if I was a Republican I would yell and scream about it as well.

Ace notes that that line about Republicans undermining implementation may signal a sly inchoate Democratic attempt to suggest, without clearly stating, that it’s the shutdown that caused Healthcare.gov’s problems, not Obama’s incompetence. That’s false, of course, but there are indeed people out there in this great big country of ours who believe it. Expect to hear more of it as “repairs” to the site drag on and on, and on. Meanwhile, Ben Domenech saw the “more money” gambit coming a few days ago:

4. With the White House’s blessing, a Gang of Insert Number Here with some vulnerable/moderate Dems (Manchin, Landrieu, Pryor, Begich, Heitkamp, Warner… maybe Baucus?) could press for a package of “fix the exchanges” legislation, which could conceivably offer Republicans a chance to pass delay while appropriating more funding for the exchanges – something like: delay the mandate, delay some of the goodies, and take the exchanges offline and give them more money to fix them.

Are there even six Republicans in the Senate willing to be part of a gang like that, though? The idea of any GOPer colluding with Democrats to fix the exchanges, even if they’re able to win a delay of the law in the process, seems unthinkable to me. They’d be accused of rescuing O’s boondoggle at a moment of supreme weakness; everything you heard after the shutdown ended about RINOs like Boehner and McConnell now “owning” O-Care because they couldn’t figure out a way to stop it would multiply by a hundred. On the other hand, if the caucus unites in opposition and vows not a penny more for “repairs,” they risk being perceived as endorsing the “let it burn” approach to O-Care. Even Ted Cruz has problems with LIB — for good reason, says Breitbart’s Joel Pollak:

It is tempting, now that President Barack Obama and the mainstream media are rubbing Republicans’ noses in the mess that was the government shutdown, to let them take the “credit” for Obamacare and force them to implement it as “settled law.” After all, they played their part in forcing the shutdown by resisting any change or delay at all to Obamacare. So let them take the “credit” for that supposedly triumphant stance.

The problem is that a member of Congress has to face his or her constituents and explain what he or she is doing to help them–not in 2017, when the only realistic possibility for repealing Obamacare will arise, but today. It would be unacceptable for Rubio or Cruz to tell their constituents that the voters have to be taught a lesson. So they have to take some kind of action to “fix” Obamacare, while still pressing for its repeal.

The only way to spare the public pain from ObamaCare, the “defunders” will say, was to defund it before it started. True, but Senate math being what it was, it wasn’t going to happen. And it didn’t happen, so what’s the Plan B to spare people now? Rubio proposes delaying the individual mandate to prevent them from suffering an unjust penalty, but if Democrats agreed to do that, it would wreak more immediate havoc on the insurance industry than fixing the website would. I’m not sure what Cruz’s Plan B is but no doubt we’ll find out in the next few days. This is why Domenech thinks the gang option is, although improbable, at least possible: You may get six purple-state Republicans who decide that the least bad option here between cutting O a blank check and declaring that not a penny of money will be spent to rescue ObamaCare no matter how many Biblical plagues its half-assed implementation unleashes upon the land is to give Obama the money he needs for the site in return for major concessions on the order of delaying the law for awhile. Can’t wait for that next round of RINO/true conservative throat-slitting.


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KEYWORDS: hoyer; obamacare; obamacarewebsite; obamadoesntcare
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s the ObamaDoesntCare website...


41 posted on 10/23/2013 9:56:34 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Aevery_Freeman; PghBaldy
RE :”He will point out the needless complexity of multiple insurance companies with a plethora of products.”

Thats great.
Let him tell us how crappy Obamacare is,
Its OBAMA-CARE. He called it that. He owns it.
Let him crap on his own OBAMA-CARE to try to convince voters that his ideas are good. I look forward to it.

Rush is wrong most of the time, when Dems win his business does the best.

42 posted on 10/23/2013 9:56:36 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe the democrats can pitch in some of the kick back money they made on this sweetheart deal?.


43 posted on 10/23/2013 9:58:10 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: SeekAndFind

Number two is right.


44 posted on 10/23/2013 10:08:25 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Obama: A dark spot in this country's history.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Every Democrat is number two, if you know what I mean.
45 posted on 10/23/2013 10:20:09 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: PghBaldy
Exactly.

Why go after taxpayers as a first resort to pick up the tab rather than CGI who screwed the pooch because they caved to pressure they were too cowardly and greedy to resist as they plowed forward to produce what they knew would result in a miscarriage?

The Dems should make the contract public and let us see what its terms were.

Were progress reports and documentation required at various phases? If so, let's see them and any misrepresentations they may contain.

Or was money thrown at them willy-nilly just because they asked for it with no documentation required at all?

Throw accountants and lawyers at it and let's see what the snake pit heaves up.

46 posted on 10/23/2013 10:25:18 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: SeekAndFind
The best part of this is that he admits he doesn’t know if the site actually needs more money or not.

If the only tool you have is a hammer, the entire world looks like a nail.

47 posted on 10/23/2013 10:58:00 AM PDT by Gamecock (Many Atheists take the stand: "There is no God AND I hate Him.")
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To: PghBaldy

And the Republicans are way behind the curve in talking about the dangers of single payer and doing anything to stop the Dems from manipulating us down that road.


48 posted on 10/23/2013 11:07:29 AM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: SeekAndFind

My late father used to say, “Don’t throw good money after bad.”


49 posted on 10/23/2013 1:31:22 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (The Second Amendment makes all the other amendments possible)
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To: SeekAndFind
As Nancy Reagan said on the stopping drugs campaign:

Just say no to ObamaCare!!!

50 posted on 10/23/2013 1:59:05 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- which have been proven over time.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hoyer is so dumb that only his bullshitting abilities get him anything. He’s the House equivalent of Dickie Durbin, which shows you how low he is on the feed chain.

Talks a good game but when you analysis what he says, you just go “Barf.”

By the way, he was a major mover in the late 1980’s/early 90’s to open up our visa system for more immigration, including terrorism supporters. Barney Frank was another in this effort (he needed more boyfriends, I guess).

If you dissect what the leading Democrats say on any issue, you find almost no realistic substance, lies, distortions, disinformation, plain ignorance and deceit unparalleled in the history of the Congress.

Other than that, they’re all fine fellows.


51 posted on 10/23/2013 4:44:02 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: pepsionice
Only a suggestion here...but since this is fresh new money for something we already paid for...I’d suggest to invent a new tax on software development companies and just pass the buck on down the line. Make it a nineteen percent tax for one year...just like that fancy medical appliance tax they invented...and shower the IT industry with the same pains as everyone else.

Yeah...and its the fault of Google, Amazon, Yahoo, Facebook, Linkdin etc....who are clogging up the internet so preventing customers from signing up for Obamacare...

Just whack a big tax on those guys...including W. Buffet.

52 posted on 10/23/2013 9:31:25 PM PDT by spokeshave (While Zero plays silly card games like Spades - Putin plays for keeps.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Dems’ number two in the House calls for more money for ObamaCare website”

Yes, thrown more money down a sh**hole.

Government’s answer to everything.


53 posted on 10/23/2013 10:14:40 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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