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Obamacare: Truth and Myths
ABC via Yahoo News ^ | Oct. 23, 2013 | Abby D. Phillip

Posted on 10/23/2013 8:48:34 AM PDT by Rennes Templar

These days, it can be hard to separate truth from myth when it comes to the Affordable Care Act. Opponents of the law have sought to discredit it by repeating statements that aren't backed by facts, while its proponents do their own stretching of the truth. Here, we demystify some of the most vexing questions surrounding the new health care law:

Myth: People are having difficulty signing up for health care everywhere.

It's been all over the news since the Affordable Care Act's marketplaces opened for business on Oct 1: delays, broken web pages and glitches galore. While there have been enormous difficulties for the ACA's health insurance exchanges, the problems have been largely confined to the 34 state marketplaces that the federal government runs. In 16 other states and the District of Columbia, the state-run exchanges seem to be working fine.

Some of them are actually doing pretty well -- at least when compared with the others. Kentucky has already enrolled 15,000 people in health insurance plans with few problems. And within two weeks, California said that 95,000 people had started applications for insurance.

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Baghdad Bob would be proud.
1 posted on 10/23/2013 8:48:34 AM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: Rennes Templar

Truth ,ROFL


2 posted on 10/23/2013 8:49:49 AM PDT by molson209 (Hillary Clinton)
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To: Rennes Templar

So anywhere the Feds go, trouble followed. Great endorsement and how about those great increases in costs?


3 posted on 10/23/2013 8:51:03 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Rennes Templar

Truth from ABC?

Bwahahahahahaha.

There is not a measurable IQ in the whole pile of worms.

My gawd, man, they’re ‘reporters’.


4 posted on 10/23/2013 8:52:35 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Rennes Templar

“Myth: Obamacare is leading to part-time jobs “

Looks like the ABCNews readers aren’t buying this propaganda piece from the comments below.


5 posted on 10/23/2013 8:54:16 AM PDT by MNDude
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To: Rennes Templar

In WV most of the people signed up for Obamacare through an agency went into Medicaid


6 posted on 10/23/2013 8:54:49 AM PDT by meatloaf
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To: Rennes Templar

All that tells me is that individual states which opted to build an exchange did a far better job of it than the Feds.

Which is yet another argument in favor of Federalism and NOT having a huge, overarching, all-powerful central government.


7 posted on 10/23/2013 8:55:10 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: meatloaf

In WV the only insurer who is even participating in the exchange is Highmark BC/BS out of Pittsburgh. Seems most of them knew something.


8 posted on 10/23/2013 8:55:51 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Rennes Templar

They need to be held to account for these statements:

“If you like your plan, you can keep your plan. Period.”
“If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. Period.”
“Average savings will be $2500 per year.”
“...cost less than your cell phone bill.”


9 posted on 10/23/2013 8:56:44 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Rennes Templar
the problems have been largely confined to the 34 state marketplaces that the federal government runs.

Yeah, confined to only 68% of the states. (Or did I make a math error? What's 34 divided by 57?) And that's all of the ones the feds are running.

The word confined is normally used to denote a small population of a much larger population, as in: "The meningitis outbreak was confined to only 6 people out of the 7 million living in New York." One would not say: "The deaths due to the bubonic plague were confined to 75 million of the 100 million people in western Europe."

10 posted on 10/23/2013 9:01:10 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree ( July 4, 1776: Declaration of Independence. Nov 6, 2012: Declaration of Dependence. R.I.P. America.)
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11 posted on 10/23/2013 9:02:27 AM PDT by Baynative (Give me coffee to change the things I can and wine to accept those that I can't.)
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To: MNDude
I don't think I've ever seen such a blatant spin piece. And this is a headline on the biggest online news site.

Like Bob Beckel reported yesterday, he said something negative on ACA on The View, and got a call from the White House.

12 posted on 10/23/2013 9:03:23 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (Seen any scandal headlines lately?)
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To: Rennes Templar

As we go forward the propaganda machine is all that matters.

Truth is what they say it is.

We are going to hear a lot more about the “millions of happy 0bamacare enrollees”. (don’t you want to join them?)

They are going to showcase both the sad stories of the new hope as a result of 0bamacare, as well as, the young healthy enrollee that wants to “do their part” for the greater good.

We are going to see a massive ad campaign featuring celebrities from film, television, music and sports.

I imagine their ad campaign was only delayed because of the website problems, but it is coming.


13 posted on 10/23/2013 9:04:25 AM PDT by Zeneta
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To: MNDude

ABC is working pretty hard in the office of propaganda, it seems.


14 posted on 10/23/2013 9:10:38 AM PDT by Baynative (Give me coffee to change the things I can and wine to accept those that I can't.)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree
Like saying MSM reporter's sycophantism is confined to their brains.
15 posted on 10/23/2013 9:11:24 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (Seen any scandal headlines lately?)
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To: MrB
"“Average savings will be $2500 per year.”"

I demand that the IRS send me my $2500 check, pronto.

16 posted on 10/23/2013 9:17:09 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Rennes Templar
Between August and September the economy has added 691,000 full-time jobs, while it has lost 594,000 part-time jobs, according to the September jobs report. While this is only one month's worth of data, it indicates that at least so far, the law hasn't pushed full-time employees into part-time work.

Does the rport track people dropping from fuill-time to part-time?

17 posted on 10/23/2013 9:24:39 AM PDT by Gamecock (Many Atheists take the stand: "There is no God AND I hate Him.")
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Between August and September the economy has added 691,000 full-time jobs, while it has lost 594,000 part-time jobs, according to the [modified] September jobs report.

The underlying data shows a loss of full time jobs, and a gain in part time jobs in similar but opposite numbers. It needs adjustment for seasonal events, but that seems excessive.


18 posted on 10/23/2013 9:37:41 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: meatloaf

“In WV most of the people signed up for Obamacare through an agency went into Medicaid.”

Same in Washington State: so far only 4,500 have signed up for individual plans, whereas 31,000 have signed up for Medicaid. And about 75%-85% of all enrollees will be wholly or mostly subsidized.


19 posted on 10/23/2013 9:40:24 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree
"Yeah, confined to only 68% of the states."

The same verbal abuse was used in a story in The Seattle Times, touting how wonderful the program is working. It said that so fare "more than 4,500" have signed up for individual insurance. It should have said "ONLY 4,500" because the 4,500 is only about 1% of the state's projected enrollee figure. The vast majority of the enrollees - 31, 000 - have signed up for Medicaid, and at least two-thirds of them will be totally subsidized.
20 posted on 10/23/2013 9:45:37 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Gamecock
"Between August and September the economy has added 691,000 full-time jobs, while it has lost 594,000 part-time jobs, according to the September jobs report."

Those aren't the figures I saw - I saw full-time drop by 560,000 and part-time rise by 702,000.
21 posted on 10/23/2013 9:48:21 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Rennes Templar

“Myth: People are having difficulty signing up for health care everywhere. “

People using the exchanges, including those who had private health insurance previously but were dropped due to the ACA, are having difficulty.

“Myth: The website’s’ biggest problem is the number of people seeking insurance. “

As noted, the website collapsed under the weight of only two thousand users.

Most of the “sign ups” documented so far are people moving from state-run Medicare programs to the federal one, not what is implied.

“Myth: Obamacare is leading to part-time jobs “

This effect has been obvious for most of the last year, accelerating over the summer. The article used only some very dubious numbers for September only.

“Myth: Employers aren’t changing the insurance they offer because of Obamacare. “

Millions have had their employer-provided plans dropped. Many more have had coverage/plans for their family dropped. Most have had their plans severely limited with available plans reduced or modified beyond recognition.

A major jump in price increases and plan attrition from the ACA have been occurring since 2010.


22 posted on 10/23/2013 9:52:35 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Rennes Templar

“Myth: People are having difficulty signing up for health care everywhere. “

People using the exchanges, including those who had private health insurance previously but were dropped due to the ACA, are having difficulty.

“Myth: The website’s’ biggest problem is the number of people seeking insurance. “

As noted, the website collapsed under the weight of only two thousand users.

Most of the “sign ups” documented so far are people moving from state-run Medicaid programs to the federal one, not what is implied. (early results show this at about 80%of all sign ups).

“Myth: Obamacare is leading to part-time jobs “

This effect has been obvious for most of the last year, accelerating over the summer. The article used only some very dubious numbers for September only.

“Myth: Employers aren’t changing the insurance they offer because of Obamacare. “

Millions have had their employer-provided plans dropped. Many more have had coverage/plans for their family dropped. Most have had their plans severely limited with available plans reduced or modified beyond recognition.

A major jump in price increases and plan attrition from the ACA have been occurring since 2010.


23 posted on 10/23/2013 9:57:30 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Rennes Templar

PRAVDA strikes again.


24 posted on 10/23/2013 10:13:27 AM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: Rennes Templar
This guy has it right.
25 posted on 10/23/2013 11:59:44 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (ZeroCare: Make them pay; do not delay.)
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To: Rennes Templar

Myth: the media is biased for liberal Democrats.

Fact: if you racist, sexist, homophobic Tea Baggers were smarter, you’d realize this isn’t true.

/sarc(???????)


26 posted on 10/23/2013 12:21:14 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: Rennes Templar

Sounds more like a summation of the defense. Folks of the jury just look at those puppy eyes-—how could a set of teeth like that actually have stolen your bone?


27 posted on 10/23/2013 1:01:40 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Rennes Templar

We are from Big Brother; we are here to help you.


28 posted on 10/23/2013 2:59:41 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Producing Talk Show Prep since 1998.)
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To: Rennes Templar
Sober up ABBY!

Only “hundreds” have been able to sign up for a health care plan at the Obamacare websites. The Wall Street Journal reported:

Okay now we will try the landline # 1-800-318-2596 listed above or 1-800-318-2596 = 1-800-FAU-CKYO.

Inspite of the Daily ObozoScamScare Trainwrecks, the ObozoScamScare Outhouse Band continues to play on:


29 posted on 10/24/2013 10:43:53 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( "With Obamascare you can die for your country without leaving home.")
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