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Ohio just became the fourth GOP-controlled state to approve Medicaid expansion under Obamacare
The Washington Post ^ | 10/21/2013 | Niraj Chokshi

Posted on 10/23/2013 10:03:31 AM PDT by LonelyCon

Ohio just pushed the country past a symbolic threshold: it’s become the 25th state to pursue expanding Medicaid under the president’s health-care law, making the nation’s states evenly split on the issue for the first time. As of the start of the month, 24 states had opted to forge ahead with the expansion and 26 had not, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation, a health policy news and analysis nonprofit. Ohio was among those that were not expanding health care to more low-income adults, though Republican Gov. John Kasich wanted it. But a seven-member board that considered his request got its fourth pro-expansion member, Rep. Ross McGregor (R), on Monday morning and had voted 5 to 2 to forge ahead by the afternoon, according to local reports. Some are considering suing the state, according to The Columbus Dispatch. Many oppose the expansion on principle, as it also represents an expansion of the size of government.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; gopestablishment; medicaid; medicaidexpansion; obamacare; ohio; rinos; zerocare
Aargh! What just happened in Ohio? Seriously, anyone from there with more info? I thought the GOP controlled the legislature and that Kasich was a conservative. Am I mistaking Kasich with someone else?
1 posted on 10/23/2013 10:03:32 AM PDT by LonelyCon
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To: LonelyCon

That’s going to be expensive...


2 posted on 10/23/2013 10:04:54 AM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: LonelyCon

People in OH haven’t voted for anybody good since the late Robert A. Taft, Sr., and he too sometimes strayed from the conservative position.


3 posted on 10/23/2013 10:06:50 AM PDT by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs have spoken: "It's Jebbie's turn!" to LOSE!)
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To: LonelyCon

Kasich forced it through by using an obscure legal authority called the ‘Controlling Board’, neatly sidestepping the legislature.


4 posted on 10/23/2013 10:07:40 AM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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To: LonelyCon
Its called free health care that Ohio residents are taxed for either way.

How many seniors turn down free parts of medicare after paying a lifetime of medicare payroll taxes because they hate the concept of socialized medicine?

called human nature.

At least few states are setting up the exchanges.

5 posted on 10/23/2013 10:08:16 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: LonelyCon

LOL...just in time to make Ohio residents eligible to pay the penalties for not buying government-subsidized ObamaCare. They must be so proud.


6 posted on 10/23/2013 10:08:21 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Theodore R.
People in OH haven’t voted for anybody good since the late Robert A. Taft, Sr.

BTTT

(former resident of the Buckeye State)

7 posted on 10/23/2013 10:08:33 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: LonelyCon

Ohio, from whence Boehner cometh? They’re as RINO-populated as New Jersey, and Kasich the big sales-tax expander is their anything-but-conservative leader. (Only the liberal media calls Kasich “conservative”.)


8 posted on 10/23/2013 10:10:26 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: LonelyCon

Kasich SAID he was a conservative, but turned out to be a brainwashed Christian who thinks it’s biblical to take from some people and give to others...he’s wrong!

He’s a loser, too.

By doing what he did, he violates:

* Romans via Paul says governments are installed by God...so Kasich violated that

* Unintended consequences of 0bummercare/Medicaid expansion causes tax payers to have money TAKEN, e.g., stolen from them and given to others...I doubt the Lord thinks that was ok

* This expansion also gives rise and reward to those already cheating the government

* This expansion assists illegal aliens - can of worms, so Kasich must be ok with amnesty, which also causes people to violate the Romans’ principle aforementioned and hurts businesses and taxpayers, e.g., steals from them

* It is also biblical to work...all of this violates that as well

Good reasoning, Kasich...


9 posted on 10/23/2013 10:12:55 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (“Life is hard, but it’s harder when you’re stupid.” John Wayne)
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To: sickoflibs
At least with exchanges they have to pay something. If the GOP were serious;y worried about 'socialized medicine', why'd they pass Medicare Part D .
10 posted on 10/23/2013 10:15:27 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: LonelyCon

Virginia is not one of the states that I know of and it is making health care VERY expensive for me.


11 posted on 10/23/2013 10:15:33 AM PDT by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: CincyRichieRich

Kasich sounds like a Huckaphoney.

“Social Justice”:”We’re telling you to do what we say Jesus said and having the government make sure you do it”


12 posted on 10/23/2013 10:16:31 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: LonelyCon

GOP controlled? Kasich ran in 2010 as anti-Obamacare, but by 2012 he became one of the most maniacally pro-Obamacare governors, it’s not even funny. He should just switch parties. He’s probably one of Obama’s favorite governors.


13 posted on 10/23/2013 10:16:56 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: LonelyCon

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2011/11/09/ohio-voters-amend-their-constitution-to-outlaw-obamacare-mandates/

Ohio voted against Obamacare. Like a whopping 66% against Obamacare.
Kasich is acting like Obama - Dictator Wannabe

I’m really discouraged about this. Discouraged to the point where I feel like there is just no use in voting for anything or anyone - anymore.


14 posted on 10/23/2013 10:26:33 AM PDT by OhioBuckeye ("Here sir, the people govern." - Alexander Hamilton)
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To: LonelyCon

oops...forgot the other link:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/23/us-usa-healthcare-ohio-idUSBRE99M0TM20131023

Six Ohio lawmakers are trying their best.....


15 posted on 10/23/2013 10:29:27 AM PDT by OhioBuckeye ("Here sir, the people govern." - Alexander Hamilton)
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To: TurboZamboni; LonelyCon
RE :”At least with exchanges they have to pay something”

That is why its unattractive.

But with the Medicaid expansion a governor has to tell his voters :”Sorry, I know that allowing you to have medicaid would cost our state nothing, but I am against it. You always have the emergency room if you get real sick, Just throw away the hospital bills for that if you cant afford them”

In bright red states its no problem to say that, on AM radio too.
In Blue or purple states like VA it doesnt go over very well.

16 posted on 10/23/2013 10:29:43 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: Corporate Democrat

Wonder why Kasich went rino and how much did he get for it?.


17 posted on 10/23/2013 10:35:23 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: LonelyCon
Aargh! What just happened in Ohio? Seriously, anyone from there with more info? I thought the GOP controlled the legislature and that Kasich was a conservative. Am I mistaking Kasich with someone else?

Your answer is in your statement. I'll give you a hint, and it involves the letters G,O and P.

18 posted on 10/23/2013 10:39:18 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: TurboZamboni

Kasich sounds like a Huckaphoney.

“Social Justice”:”We’re telling you to do what we say Jesus said and having the government make sure you do it”


I’m borrowing that; great line!


19 posted on 10/23/2013 10:41:16 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (“Life is hard, but it’s harder when you’re stupid.” John Wayne)
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To: CincyRichieRich

Since the Federal Gov’t is (for now) going to reimburse 100% of the cost for Medicaid expansion to the States Kasich is taking money from citizens of other States.
California is really going to rake it in. I saw that they enrolled 600,000 in Medicaid already!


20 posted on 10/23/2013 10:43:11 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Corporate Democrat
Kasich forced it through by using an obscure legal authority called the ‘Controlling Board’, neatly sidestepping the legislature.

Yep. And it is why he's getting sued by Ohio opponents of Medicaid expansion.

21 posted on 10/23/2013 10:48:32 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Vaduz

Hospital lobbyists. They want to be able to bill their charity cases to SOMEBODY.


22 posted on 10/23/2013 11:30:34 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: OhioBuckeye; ADemocratNoMore; Akron Al; arbee4bush; agrace; ATOMIC_PUNK; Badeye; Bikers4Bush; ...

Ohio Ping
See many posts on the thread.

The decision to go to the controlling board undermines the integrity of elections as well as undermining the legislature’s decision to reject federal dollars which always have strings attached.

Press release
http://www.ohiolibertycoalition.org/wp-content/uploads/1851-Center-Press-Release.pdf

Lawsuit filed
http://www.sconet.state.oh.us/pdf_viewer/pdf_viewer.aspx?pdf=735427.pdf


23 posted on 10/23/2013 12:06:43 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: LonelyCon

C’mon down to Texas!

I left Ohio for low tax Texas and love it.

No income tax, water and electricity are half the price of Ashtabula.

(Still root for the Brownies though)


24 posted on 10/23/2013 12:16:00 PM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President.)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Let’s hope it gets traction!! Cannot believe Kasich went through the Controlling Board to do this.


25 posted on 10/23/2013 12:37:21 PM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (Be the Enemy Within the Enemy Within...)
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To: sickoflibs
Sorry, I know that allowing you to have medicaid would cost our state nothing

Medicaid is a state/federal plan. It most definitely costs the state.
26 posted on 10/23/2013 12:54:14 PM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (Be the Enemy Within the Enemy Within...)
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To: Eagle of Liberty
RE :”Medicaid is a state/federal plan. It most definitely costs the state. “

Its the 100% Federal funding they are being told to turn down.

27 posted on 10/23/2013 12:58:48 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: sickoflibs

As if the people of Ohio don’t help fund the federal government. They are paying for it whether its paid by federal or state dollars.


28 posted on 10/23/2013 1:00:07 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: sickoflibs

You are correct....WOW!!! As stated in Post #20, those states that expanded Medicaid will receive 100% reimbursement for people earning between 100 and 138 percent of the Federal Poverty Level.

As if we weren’t saying this all throughout the ACA debate, what a horrible mess!


29 posted on 10/23/2013 1:01:33 PM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (Be the Enemy Within the Enemy Within...)
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To: LonelyCon

Wow, what a sick scumbag Kasich turned out to be. I remember when he was a “rising star” in the GOP House, but then he suddenly up and quit. I always figured somebody has some pretty filthy dirt on him. Now I’m sure of it.


30 posted on 10/23/2013 1:06:05 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: GeronL
RE :”As if the people of Ohio don’t help fund the federal government. They are paying for it whether its paid by federal or state dollars.”

Well they in Ohio can pay the Obamacare taxes for it, turn down the funding then pay EVEN more state taxes to take care of those people's emergency room hospital visits,

or they can pay the same Obamacare taxes regardless but let the federal government pay for their voters health care in Medicaid .

Ohio isnt Texas. They want the better deal for themselves.

How many seniors (loyal GOP voters) turn down medicare after paying all those taxes?

31 posted on 10/23/2013 1:06:32 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: Eagle of Liberty; GeronL
RE :”You are correct....WOW!!! As stated in Post #20, those states that expanded Medicaid will receive 100% reimbursement for people earning between 100 and 138 percent of the Federal Poverty Level.”

I would say nationally this is a pretty popular thing by itself.

Free stuff, compassion, heal the sick, Santa Claus, compassion, everyone happy, cute puppy .....

GOP will never repeal this one for real, never, I would love to bet.

32 posted on 10/23/2013 1:12:30 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: Eagle of Liberty
I just missed you, please see #31
33 posted on 10/23/2013 1:14:10 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: Vaduz; Lancey Howard
Maybe President Jarrett helped persuade Governor Kasich?


34 posted on 10/23/2013 4:19:16 PM PDT by Hetuck ("We will Barry you" - Nikita Khrushchev)
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To: Hetuck

I think Kasich is filthy dirty. **Somebody** has something on him.


35 posted on 10/23/2013 4:27:35 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: LonelyCon

I’ve been trying to tell people here how much of an asshole kasich is for some time. He was the deciding vote in clinton’s gun ban after lying about being pro gun owner rights to get elected. And ask anyone clerk, server or flight attendant how he treats his lessors. To top that off, he championed a new law in ohio that subjects you to felony charges if the used car you bought has some manner of “hidden compartment” in it. I’ll be voting for whatever 3rd party is on the ballot against him.


36 posted on 10/23/2013 5:25:13 PM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Hetuck

Indeed she’s like a cockroach she’s every where.


37 posted on 10/24/2013 9:40:58 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Sounds true.


38 posted on 10/24/2013 9:41:56 AM PDT by Vaduz
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