Posted on 10/23/2013 12:30:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Someone stumbled across this spreadsheet on the ObamaCare website last night and it’s been zapping around Twitter ever since. Is this information … supposed to be public? I thought the whole point of forcing people to register before showing them the prices is that they didn’t want you to see how expensive the plans are until you’d already been lured with the promise of subsidies.
It looks like there is other info you can view. I didn’t see any confidential medical files and financial info, but I’m not a hacker, so I’m not going any further.
I wouldn’t be surprised if hackers can get to it. I just don’t think they meant for all this info to be available. You can bet if the confidential info is available, hackers will get it. This site is lousy.
Brave New World.
This is a better site with more comprehensive information
http://www.valuepenguin.com/ppaca/exchanges
I had a heart attack. Premiums about FIVE TIMES what I pay now.
What an insane quagmire.
Single male age 27 making $13 an hour will pay $220 a month after subsidies for a bronze plan in my area. That’s a bit more than a cell phone bill.
“As for the ‘Navigator’ file, that’s 3,797 rows of data and contains all addresses and Email addresses of Navigators.”
That’s crazy! How can they keep this site open! They need to close it now.
I’m guessing the next march on Washington is going to be a 300 million man march and it will include the demwits this time.
If you already found the info about the navigators, I imagine it won’t be long before hackers find the confidential info. Or maybe they have already. No wonder the main stream press is finally upset.
I can’t remember the thread I recently copied this from. If the original poster sees this, my apology. But, if you are in Texas tbw2, you need to read this because Texas is one of the States that refused to set up exchanges:
States authorized by LAW to ignore ObamaCare mandates, rate hikes
BY DOUG BOOK, ON OCTOBER 23RD, 2013
If you live in a Red State which refused to build an ObamaCare exchange and you have been divested of your doctor and your healthcare plan, don’t get mad at ObamaCare or even Barack Hussein. The reason? Here is what former DC Insurance Commissioner Lawrence H. Mirel has to say about health insurance and the states:
The problem is that the federal government has no legal authority to regulate health insurance rates. Insurance, including health insurance, is regulated by the states. The McCarran-Ferguson Act, which preserves the principle of state regulation of insurance, was not amended by the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, the law under which the new rule on health insurance rates was issued. So what is going on here? With no regulatory authority at all, HHS is trying to bully or shame health insurers into reducing their rate increases. The whole effort is an incredible exercise in chutzpah.
In short, if the so called Blue States wish to embrace ObamaCare, its higher prices and monumentally screwed up Healthcare.gov computer system, all well and good. They have every right to do so. But some 34 states said NO to the Regime’s expectation that millions of state tax dollars would go towards establishing an ObamaCare exchange within their borders. A good first step, of course. And these states do NOT have to accept any HHS requirement that insurers meet Affordable Care Act demands! No resident in those states has to give up his current healthcare plan unless the state itself willingly relinquishes regulation of the insurance industry within its borders to the federal government!
And don’t think for one moment that Regime elders are not aware of this. Months after the passage of the affordable Care Act into law, Senator Patrick Leahy was STILL trying to have McCarran-Ferguson repealed. The stated reason–so insurers could not “price fix” premium rates. The REAL reason was because he KNEW that any Republican-run state could tell Barack Obama and HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius that ObamaCare-mandated premiums and regulations would NOT be welcome within the state’s borders.
McCarran-Ferguson is still in effect, in spite of the best efforts of more than 20 Democrat senators. After all, the Insurance Industry which ObamaCare was designed to destroy is still very profitable and holds great sway over DC politicians.
So if you’ve lost your doctor of 20 years and your new ObamaCare “approved” insurance premium is $1,100/month with a $10,000 deductible, don’t complain to Washington, at least not if you live in a conservative state. Ask your governor why he is not following a law passed 6 decades before Marxist heathcare was imposed upon unwilling public. You sure as Hell have the right to know.
Sources:
(1) http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Opinion/2011/0613/Uncle-Sam-s-meddling-in-health-insurance-rates-is-wrong-and-will-hurt-consumers
(2) http://www.taglaw.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1656:mccarran-ferguson-acts-antitrust-exemption-dodges-another-attempt-at-repeal&catid=78:competition-and-european-law&Itemid=100074
Additional reading:
http://washingtonexaminer.com/premiums-for-young-healthy-people-will-jump-in-45-states-under-obamacare/article/2537431
http://reason.com/blog/2011/06/01/new-york-states-highly-regulat
http://patriotwarrior.org/2012/03/26/the-insidiousness-secrets-of-obamacare
It does not contain any entries for Massachusetts, so it is clearly incomplete. Is this just states without state exchanges?
Massachusetts is exempt because of romneycare. Everyone in Mass is already required to have insurance.
Is that pronounced “oh-BIHD-ee-uht”?
The export button lets you download the database as an xls file, which means you can perform all kinds of interesting analysis on the data.
Correct.
I count 29 states. Maybe they don’t have it running for the other states. I heard that New York doesn’t have anyone enrolled. They are not on this list.
Also, Alaska, the first one listed has over 1,000 different plans. How in the world do they expect this to work.
Actually, this spreadsheet turns out to be the new “feature” just added to the obamacare.gov website to allow people to price “shop” for insurance without creating an account. A scathing cbs report points out the the database has only two price points: 27 years old and 50 years old, and applies the 27 years old price to anybody under 49 and the 50 year old price to anyone 50 or older, resulting in fantastically inaccurate prices, most being shown as 50% less than what they would actually cost in reality.
Hope you don’t have any records at Seton in Austin. Nothing is safe these days.
I especially like this line:”Services in excess of specified benefit maximums.”
And whose job is it to determine the specified benefit maximums? I suspect its Randy in some hidden basement eating his twinkies and saying over and over “eeny, meaney, miney, moe gotta check to make them go.”
Based on your likely voting patterns, I’m sure.
LOL...How many 27 year olds work full time? Very few...
Lets say the 27 year old works full time toby...
After taxes the 27 year old has what toby? about $1250?
Lets see toby, lets throw in rent, for 800 a month, clothing, 100, utilities 180. Car insurance 100....Oh yeah toby monthly food bill about 300. and gasoline there's 160 and that 220. for Obama care....
Lets calculate that toby...
Hmmmm. That comes to $1860.00.
The 27 year old is now about 5 or 600 bucks short each month.
Now this does not include car payments, furniture costs, tires, repairs, gifts, or any other expenses....Zip...Nothing...
How's that work toby?
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