Skip to comments.Now available: Prices for every insurance plan offered on Healthcare.gov (GET IN HERE!)
Posted on 10/23/2013 12:30:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Someone stumbled across this spreadsheet on the ObamaCare website last night and its been zapping around Twitter ever since. Is this information
supposed to be public? I thought the whole point of forcing people to register before showing them the prices is that they didnt want you to see how expensive the plans are until youd already been lured with the promise of subsidies.
I’ll bet the Zerocare folks would love to patch that information hole, but it’s already too late. They can’t get the toothpaste back in the tube now.
Better cook up some more lies to explain it.
Step one: Compare prices to voter history. Are the premiums higher in Republican states?
Step two: Compare navigators to past democratic campaign contributions.
In case it disappears, here is a link to mine: https://app.box.com/s/ndznoq5reu1amr4v4voe
I didn’t see anything listed about the deductible for each plan. Are we to assume the deductible is zero?
My experience with renters over the past 8 years is that they have trouble having enough money to pay the rent and the utilities. Now these vary people are going to have their hours cut and another $700-1000 dollar bill to pay every month.
Do Holder’s people get a special subsidy, because they are going to be incredibly pissed to discover they owe money to the IRS instead of getting a nice fat earned income welfare check.
You can use the export button on the page to export the data to your computer. Thanks for sharing.
I have to leave or I would compare the prices on your list to those listed in this article: http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3082650/posts because Obamacare now has a low ball estimate showing when people surf the site (their cya response to complaints that you can’t see the costs until you sign up). By low ball estimate I mean that the estimates are too low, sometimes by 50 percent - it’s just window dressing. So I am wondering if you are getting the window dressing numbers or the real numbers because cost is dependent on age and an accurate table would have numerous costs for numerous age ranges per plan.
Export button ?
Does this also work for confidential medical files and financial info ?
One of hubby’s coworkers has had his past three renters, all with good credit and good references, stop paying rent, saying they don’t have to pay. It took him 90 days to evict them.
Look for this and other similar scenarios to skyrocket.
Only Muslims, Amish and Native Americans are exempted, as far as I know.
For a family like ours, in Texas, the plans average about $800/month, no subsidy. For the gold plan, it is close to $1,000 per month.
And those premiums wouldn’t even reduce our taxable income like our current health insurance.
Insurance premiums are now taxable under ObamaCare?
78,438 rows of data. That’s how long the ‘Individual Medical landscape’ Excel file is which contains policy rates. As for the ‘Navigator’ file, that’s 3,797 rows of data and contains all addresses and Email addresses of Navigators. IT’S SPAM TIME! LOL
I didnt see anything listed about the deductible for each plan. Are we to assume the deductible is zero?
If you copy and paste the plan name in Google, you can find the plan specifics.
example: I put Blue Cross Blue Shield Select 6350, a Multi-State Plan in Google and came up with this
"I am an Obamabot. I love Obama. Obama mmm mmm mmm. I am an Obamabot. I love Obama. Obama mmm mmm mmm. (Repeat)"
Interestingly, this woman was NOT enrolled in Obamacare at the time this photo was taken.
Are these monthly premiums?
These are expensive!
Obamabot is good. I prefer Obidiot.
You apply to be a navigator I bet they will certainly check your party affiliation.
Then again, they hired ACORN and Planned Parenthood to do this stuff, they aren’t political at all, right?
It looks like there is other info you can view. I didn’t see any confidential medical files and financial info, but I’m not a hacker, so I’m not going any further.
I wouldn’t be surprised if hackers can get to it. I just don’t think they meant for all this info to be available. You can bet if the confidential info is available, hackers will get it. This site is lousy.
Brave New World.
This is a better site with more comprehensive information
I had a heart attack. Premiums about FIVE TIMES what I pay now.
What an insane quagmire.
Single male age 27 making $13 an hour will pay $220 a month after subsidies for a bronze plan in my area. That’s a bit more than a cell phone bill.
“As for the Navigator file, thats 3,797 rows of data and contains all addresses and Email addresses of Navigators.”
That’s crazy! How can they keep this site open! They need to close it now.
I’m guessing the next march on Washington is going to be a 300 million man march and it will include the demwits this time.
If you already found the info about the navigators, I imagine it won’t be long before hackers find the confidential info. Or maybe they have already. No wonder the main stream press is finally upset.
I can’t remember the thread I recently copied this from. If the original poster sees this, my apology. But, if you are in Texas tbw2, you need to read this because Texas is one of the States that refused to set up exchanges:
States authorized by LAW to ignore ObamaCare mandates, rate hikes
BY DOUG BOOK, ON OCTOBER 23RD, 2013
If you live in a Red State which refused to build an ObamaCare exchange and you have been divested of your doctor and your healthcare plan, dont get mad at ObamaCare or even Barack Hussein. The reason? Here is what former DC Insurance Commissioner Lawrence H. Mirel has to say about health insurance and the states:
The problem is that the federal government has no legal authority to regulate health insurance rates. Insurance, including health insurance, is regulated by the states. The McCarran-Ferguson Act, which preserves the principle of state regulation of insurance, was not amended by the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, the law under which the new rule on health insurance rates was issued. So what is going on here? With no regulatory authority at all, HHS is trying to bully or shame health insurers into reducing their rate increases. The whole effort is an incredible exercise in chutzpah.
In short, if the so called Blue States wish to embrace ObamaCare, its higher prices and monumentally screwed up Healthcare.gov computer system, all well and good. They have every right to do so. But some 34 states said NO to the Regimes expectation that millions of state tax dollars would go towards establishing an ObamaCare exchange within their borders. A good first step, of course. And these states do NOT have to accept any HHS requirement that insurers meet Affordable Care Act demands! No resident in those states has to give up his current healthcare plan unless the state itself willingly relinquishes regulation of the insurance industry within its borders to the federal government!
And dont think for one moment that Regime elders are not aware of this. Months after the passage of the affordable Care Act into law, Senator Patrick Leahy was STILL trying to have McCarran-Ferguson repealed. The stated reasonso insurers could not price fix premium rates. The REAL reason was because he KNEW that any Republican-run state could tell Barack Obama and HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius that ObamaCare-mandated premiums and regulations would NOT be welcome within the states borders.
McCarran-Ferguson is still in effect, in spite of the best efforts of more than 20 Democrat senators. After all, the Insurance Industry which ObamaCare was designed to destroy is still very profitable and holds great sway over DC politicians.
So if youve lost your doctor of 20 years and your new ObamaCare approved insurance premium is $1,100/month with a $10,000 deductible, dont complain to Washington, at least not if you live in a conservative state. Ask your governor why he is not following a law passed 6 decades before Marxist heathcare was imposed upon unwilling public. You sure as Hell have the right to know.
It does not contain any entries for Massachusetts, so it is clearly incomplete. Is this just states without state exchanges?
Massachusetts is exempt because of romneycare. Everyone in Mass is already required to have insurance.
Is that pronounced “oh-BIHD-ee-uht”?
The export button lets you download the database as an xls file, which means you can perform all kinds of interesting analysis on the data.
I count 29 states. Maybe they don’t have it running for the other states. I heard that New York doesn’t have anyone enrolled. They are not on this list.
Also, Alaska, the first one listed has over 1,000 different plans. How in the world do they expect this to work.
Actually, this spreadsheet turns out to be the new “feature” just added to the obamacare.gov website to allow people to price “shop” for insurance without creating an account. A scathing cbs report points out the the database has only two price points: 27 years old and 50 years old, and applies the 27 years old price to anybody under 49 and the 50 year old price to anyone 50 or older, resulting in fantastically inaccurate prices, most being shown as 50% less than what they would actually cost in reality.
Hope you don’t have any records at Seton in Austin. Nothing is safe these days.
I especially like this line:”Services in excess of specified benefit maximums.”
And whose job is it to determine the specified benefit maximums? I suspect its Randy in some hidden basement eating his twinkies and saying over and over “eeny, meaney, miney, moe gotta check to make them go.”
Based on your likely voting patterns, I’m sure.
LOL...How many 27 year olds work full time? Very few...
Lets say the 27 year old works full time toby...
After taxes the 27 year old has what toby? about $1250?
Lets see toby, lets throw in rent, for 800 a month, clothing, 100, utilities 180. Car insurance 100....Oh yeah toby monthly food bill about 300. and gasoline there's 160 and that 220. for Obama care....
Lets calculate that toby...
Hmmmm. That comes to $1860.00.
The 27 year old is now about 5 or 600 bucks short each month.
Now this does not include car payments, furniture costs, tires, repairs, gifts, or any other expenses....Zip...Nothing...
How's that work toby?
Thanks for the info about it being a new feature. This spreadsheet must be where they are getting the info for the new feature, but I don’t think they meant to make this data view public. It has all the states and all the plans.
Someone said they could see the Navigators info. That would have to be a mistake.
I meant it has 29 states, not all the states.
Actually more like $6-10,000 from what I’m seeing.
Survived that and entered the business world. I found that we can all be successful in anything you choose (within reason), provided that we are willing to fight for the most important freedom of all: We are all free to fall on our backsides, get up, dust ourselves off, and keep on going even if it means going in a different direction. Its the American way, and that is the freedom that is being taken from us.
BTW, I have never voted Democrat...ever.
The lowball is coming from these numbers. The insurance guy said the lowball comes from Barrycare only showing numbers for two ages, age 27 and 50. That is how these fields are labeled here for the individual insurance. So this form is likely the same “lowball” numbers people are seeing elsewhere. Unless you’re on the dot age 27 and 50, these may not even be close to accurate for you.