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Posted on 10/23/2013 6:03:31 PM PDT by markomalley
Two sheriffs deputies in Northern California shot and killed 13-year-old boy who they thought was carrying an assault rifle, only to find out that the gun the teen was holding was a toy, police and family members have said.
The officers, on patrol Tuesday in Sonoma County, reported seeing the boy carrying what appeared to be a black AK-47, reports the AP. A photo made public after the tragedy show a toy weapon with a black magazine cartridge and brown butt.
Sheriffs Lieutenant Dennis OLeary told reporters the deputies called for backup and repeatedly ordered the boy to drop the weapon before they both opened fire with their handguns. It was not clear whether the boy, later identified as Andy Lopez by his father Rodrigo, pointed the weapon at the officers.
Rodrigo Lopez told the Santa Rosa Press Democrat his son had been taking the toy to a friends house and also carried a pretend pistol in his waistband. The family said the gun was a toy but a police press statement described it as a replica Airsoft gun designed to look real while firing small plastic BBs.
I told him what I tell him every day, Mr. Lopez said of the last time he saw his son on Tuesday morning. Behave yourself.
Neighbor Brian Zastrow said the incident occurred in the afternoon when students were on the way home from school and many parents had left their jobs. The sudden eruption of gunfire echoed throughout the neighborhood.
First I heard a single siren and within seconds I heard seven shots go off, sounded like a nail gun, is what I thought it was, he said. After that I heard multiple sirens.
A video of the incident captured by another neighbor reportedly shows the two officers taking cover behind their patrol car with a body visible in the foreground.
The names of the officers involved have not been made public but both have been placed on administrative leave, a routine course of action after a shooting occurs.
Lopez was an eighth-grader at Lawrence Cook Middle School, where he played trumpet in the school band. The community adorned the site where he was shot with candles and other tributes, yet reports made it clear the shocking news had not yet sunk in for the Lopez family or the surrounding area.
Andy was a very loved student, a very popular, very handsome young man, very smart and capable, Lawrence Cook assistant principal Linsey Gannon told the Press Democrat newspaper. Our community has been rocked by his loss.
Approached by reporters upon returning home from identifying her son, Sujey Annel Cruz Cazarez wept as she was comforted by family and friends.
Why did they kill him? she said. Why?
You gotta love misplaced modifiers!
well, I am assuming the headline meant that the boy was holding the toy rifle (not the police, since theirs seemed to have worked)...?
but then again, I’m not an English teacher
The Police didn’t know how to shot him in the leg or in the Butt?
NEWS FOR THE ILLITERATES BY ILLITERATES!
We took care of your parenting problem. Here’s a bill for the bullets.
The ghost called “Not Me” is responsible for the senseless killing. Somebody, please exorcise that ghost and send it to hell permanently.
Well, you know...as long as the officers went home safe at the end of their shift, right?
LOL! I don’t care for that “brown butt” thingy either.
Sure they did.
and more locally The Socialist Party of America’s own Lynn Woolsey’s
The police are taught to shoot to kill rather than disable and accuse anyone who thinks that might sometimes be an option, that “this isn’t Hollywood”.
In this case assuming the police even should be shooting at all, I can see nothing wrong with shooting at the feet of a 13 year old. BTW, stabbing their opponent in the feet was a favorite trick of Scottish warriors.
Why were the police holding toy rifles?
Well, you know, sequester and all...
It’s a loss of the love of God. Easier to say than to remedy, of course.
Obama is giving local police departments military tanks so that it soon won’t matter what part of the kid’s anatomy the cops shoot at
We are told by many FReepers that there just is no room to bother learning to shoot with that precision, and that all gun instruction says “aim for the torso”, the biggest part and easiest.
I don’t know how many times I’ve said they should be shooting for arms and legs if there is no clear threat. Clear threats, sure, but a kid who hasn’t fired anything?
This is sad. Even if he was a bit flippant or non-chalant, he didn’t seem to perform any actual actions that deserved this.
What’s the parenting problem?
Police fatally shoot 13 year-old boy holding toy rifle.
Were he police called to this kid or was this purely a target of opportunity? This has come to be police recreation. And it doubles as range time.
If there is no clear threat they shouldn’t be shooting.
Firearms aren’t stun guns, they are deadly force and should only be used when deadly force is warranted.
After ordering Lopez to move away from the rifle, deputies approached the unresponsive teen as he lay on the ground and handcuffed him before administering first aid and calling for medical assistance, O’Leary said.
Lopez was later pronounced dead at the scene, while neither deputy was injured.
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Two more law enforcement overlords earn another paid vacation (aka administrative leave) and the responsible government and its local state controlled media do not release the names of these gallant officers. There is ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY NO EXCUSE for this. Shooting a 13 year old kid simply for carrying an air-soft gun? They are criminally negligent and should be charged with voluntary manslaughter (or the relevant charge in their jurisdiction) along with civil liability.
AND THEIR NAMES SHOULD BE PUBLIC!!
Should have read "Boy holding toy gun shot by police."
Because the "tolerant" commie lib, DemocRAT extremists have turned America into a nation of "zero tolerance."
Crazy times, killer cops everywhere. I think people should throw away their black umbrellas, maybe get an orange or pink umbrella. Otherwise, cops will mistake that black umbrella for an AK-47. You won't have a chance to put it down or explain anything.
This is not a failure by the police.
I heard this story earlier today on the radio and found it interesting they used the term ‘replica.’
BUT the truth here is the boy was 13 years old. Old enough to understand basic orders from a police officer, teacher, principle, adult...
Second, the case being it appears the boy refused to comply leads back to a basic discipline problem with the PARENTS.
Flame away...but this child’s death rests with the parents.
I have a feeling you’re going to start seeing more police fatalities...much more. This will be an even more dangerous job than it is now.
Police should remember this.
Airsoft gunr are required by law (I believe federal law, but if not by CA law certainly) to have a “blaze-orange” tip.
Because they wanted to...
Consider yourself flamed. Fool. The kid was murdered.
You mean like how the man in Dallas lunged at the officers with a knife and they had to shoot him?
Oh, wait. We have video of that instance and he didn’t lunge at them with a knife.
So in this case the officers SAY that they gave him an order and he refused to comply.
But what if there is a video showing that they fired before he had a chance to respond to anything they might have yelled at him?
Will this child’s death rest with his parents then?
“This is not a failure by the police...
...Flame away...but this childs death rests with the parents.”
I wondered how long it would be before the first leather worshiper, police apologist would show up.
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Police start yelling at a kid. He does not understand half of what they say and is extremely nervous. Cops just open fire because he doesn’t immediately do what they say?
Cops know he is a kid and if they have any sense at all they know it is probably a toy gun. Those toy replicas look like the real thing only at a long distance. They are so lite that most people could tell just be the way they hold them that they are plastic.
If the cops are behind cover, they should not shoot unless he points at them and fires. Even then they can see he is a kid and should shoot for his feet.
Since he could not have possibly fired at them, then they should not have fired unless they were close to him and he pointed the gun at them.
I think they saw the gun and opened fire. I doubt the kids had any inkling ofwhat was happening and died wonderi g what happened.
This is murder. That cop needs the death penalty. Anyone who tries to defend him should be shot too
A sad affair. The 13 year ‘investment’ of the parents; gone.
The long standing assumption that police are first of all here to protect and serve the citizen; almost gone. Maybe the training has changed after 9/11, maybe that’s when the attitude shifted dramatically in the majority of cases. There have always been cops with a quick finger, but it seems a lot more common today. Watch your children and your dogs. In my case, the hardest thing to do when yelled at (through a megaphone) by the police is to stay calm, and not make any sudden movements. I’ve only had this experience with traffic pullovers, nothing as serious as open carrying of what looks like a weapon.
Nice weapon. But I said umbrellas. Heck, nowadays cops will confuse a bottle of ketchup for an AK-47. They’re automatons trained to pull the trigger on any situation, without having to resort to common sense. I think there was a case in SF not to many years ago. They shot and killed a boy with a toy gun, after yelling at him. Turned out he was hard of hearing. These insane killings by cops are getting commonplace.
It is the bootlickers that protect bad cops and worsen the problems.
“Flame away...but this childs death rests with the parents.”
Then they should also be shot, right?
I didn't mean my remark about black umbrellas to be completely facetious. Cops are trigger-happy, and don't take enough care to evaluate their target. People using water pistol-grip sprayers on garden hoses are being killed in their yards by cops hiding behind barriers (true, you can look it up). It isn't just toy guns that draw their fire, it's commonplace items that have no resemblance to an actual firearm. People need to be afraid of what cops have become; cold-blooded killers.
If they can't justify using deadly force they have no business using a deadly weapon.
BTW, stabbing their opponent in the feet was a favorite trick of Scottish warriors.
Yeah, the same is true throughout medieval Europe, as a way of putting an -armed- opponent on the ground for the deadly stroke.
The comments about shooting in the arm or leg are ridiculous. Police are trained to shoot to stop aggressive action. People who have been shot in the chest can still function for a good 45 seconds...how many shots can be fired in that time? I am sure I would feel wonderful if I shot a dude with a gun in the leg, and he turned and shot an innocent bystander.... As well, if someone is standing at your door with a toy gun that obviously looks real, how many of you would take the chance on it being a toy? My 2 cents
I get that this was a horribly awful thing to happen. So in the future if you’re the chief of police what guidance do you give to your officers when they see some kid on the street with a rifle?