Skip to comments.Feds Say Possession of “Large Amounts” of Weapons May Indicate Terrorist Activity
Posted on 10/24/2013 9:16:41 AM PDT by Joe Brower
Feds Say Possession of Large Amounts of Weapons May Indicate Terrorist Activity
A joint bulletin issued in early August by the Department of Homeland Security and FBI warns state and local law enforcement agencies to look out for people in possession of large amounts of weapons and ammunition, describing the discovery of unusual amounts of weapons as a potential indicator of criminal or terrorist activity.
Citing the example of Norwegian mass-murderer Anders Behring Breivik, who reportedly stockpiled approximately 12,000 pounds of precursors, weapons, and armor and hid them underground in remote, wooded locations, the bulletin instructs law enforcement to look for large amounts of weapons, ammunition, explosives, accelerants, or explosive precursor chemicals that could indicate pre-operational terrorist attack planning or criminal activity. Weapons do not have to be cached in remote locations to meet the standard for suspicious activity. According to the bulletin, weapons could be stored in an individuals home, storage facility, or vehicle and may include common firearms such as rifles, shotguns, pistols as well as military grade weapons. The illegal possession of large amounts of ammunition is also listed as a potential indicator of criminal weapons possession related to terrorism. While the bulletin never clarifies what constitutes a large or unusual quantity of weapons or ammunition, it does say that such a quantity would arouse suspicion in a reasonable person.
The joint DHS-FBI Roll Call Release distributed to police, first responders and private security throughout the U.S. is part of a series of bulletins describing activities reasonably indicative of criminal activity associated with terrorism. The suspicious activities described in the bulletins are derived from criteria in the Information Sharing Environment (ISE) Functional Standard for Suspicious Activity Reporting signed in 2009. The ISE Functional Standard governs the collection of information for the Nationwide Suspicious Activity Reporting Initiative (NSI), an interagency program to collect suspicious activity reports from law enforcement agencies around the country. Other bulletins in the series focus on everything from surveillance and theft to photography and even eliciting information, an activity described as questioning individuals at a level beyond mere curiosity.
Like other bulletins in the DHS-FBI series on suspicious activity reporting, the document notes that constitutional activities should not be reported unless the circumstances support the source agencys suspicion that the behavior observed is not innocent, but rather reasonably indicative of criminal activity associated with terrorism, including evidence of pre-operational planning related to terrorism. However, no guidance is provided on potential legal issues related to the reporting of constitutionally-protected activities.
Let's try it again...
Is there any weasel-word better than “may” to try and win an argument?
Meanwhile the current administration arms Mexican narcoterrorists and Syrian Islamic jihadists.
Homeland Security needs to investigate those with access to the White Hut.
So 1.6 rounds of ammo, flatbed mounted microwave heat ray guns, APCs, and far more weapons than the public would place them in that category, right?
By that definition, the feral government is involved in terrorist activity.
Did you want to proof that post and try again?
So 1.6 billion rounds of ammo, flatbed mounted microwave heat ray guns, APCs, and far more weapons than the public would place them in that category, right?
Yep missed one crucial word there...Lol
That would be one bullet, if they don’t like your point of view.
Here is the question: How are they gonna know who has a “large amount” of weapons or ammo?
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Hey, this is kind of fun!
We’ll were allies with Al Queda and the Muslim Bruthahood now.
Notice who gets to define “reasonable person”?
I find this bulletin to be terroristic in intent.
how does turbo pig define “Large Amounts” of Bad Computer Code?..ala ALinskyCare
Well, to be honest, I would be, too. ;-)
Flown in for the trial from New York, New York.
Or maybe from San Francisco, CA.
The feds see local LEOs as working at their behest, reaching down to the deputies (bypassing the Sheriff).
Just saw 40 rds of 22lr for $10 at Cabelas.
Check out the picture. Looks like what many of us probably take to the range on a typical day.
Well maybe a light day at the range, definitely not enough for a respectable weekend outing.
This isnt going to end well,, for either side.
They wont tone down the rhetoric and their attitude...
I know any number of folks who have the makings of multi-ton diesel-fertilizer truck bombs.
It ain’t hard.
Says no Federal law ever...
I'm tired of all their crap.
"Come at me bro'..."
Yep. I know what calibers, and how many ammo cans/shelves/loaded mags I have. Gives you a rough guestimate, but who has the time to inventory it all for an exact count?
I would point out that defining terrorists by amount of weapons possession, makes the Feds and American state government the world’s premier terrorist groups.
Completely agree. ;-)
Sorry but 5 rifles and 6 handguns is considered a light load amongst my friends.
Looks like I should liquidate some of my .22LR if that is what the market is ...
Unless your a New Black Panther or friend of O.
Yep - that’s a day at the range around here.
I’ve taken that much to the range before. Mostly when I’m trying to train up a newbie. Bring a variety and see what they like to shoot.
Four of the five rifles are BLACK! Therein lies the problem. I think the other one is an AK. A durned foreigner assault rifle. All 7 handguns are BLACK. I’m sure that’s where the problem is.
Nice starter kit.
Whenever I am presented with "may" in any discussion or argument, I throw it right back, verbatim, except I substitute "may not". My argument has exactly as much validity as my opponent's.
Or it could mean a collection...
You need some other overt act with that Feds.
“They are just jealous of my hoard of .22LR from 1998.”
Looking at that picture, you likely have too many weapons and too much ammo and likely most men on this forum have too many defensive/hunting weapons and ammo, too. All hunters and those who go to firing ranges are suspect as I look at that picture. I would be just a baby terrorist suspect since I don’t have exactly that much.
I have two ammo boxes but I think they would be exempt from suspicion since each has a big label that reads, “Zombie Ammo Can - Are You Ready?”
Are you kidding me? That’s a Noob’s collection, right?
I normally hate rap, but as NWA said...F-— the police.
I count five long guns and seven hand guns. I can’t clearly see how much ammo there is but that looks like a modest collection of firearms to me.
I need to buy a number of gallon bottles of vinegar to store - would that be suspect of something as I’d be buying more than most people have?
Natchez has 500 rounds of 22 rimfire on sale for $40.