Skip to comments.Implementing ObamaCare: Price tag higher than earlier estimates (CGI Alone 290 million)
Posted on 10/24/2013 10:05:34 AM PDT by xzinsEdited on 10/24/2013 10:06:38 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
But under questioning Thursday, Campbell said her company, CGI’s, total contract was “about $290 million,” $112 million of which has already been paid.
Slavitt said QSSI received “just under $85 million” for the data hub, which covers much — but not all — of the firm’s work for CMS.
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Come to me when you're ready to launch.
Here it is, boss. "Have you tested it?" Yep.
Go test it one more time.
Hmmmm...from WaCommiePost...this should help this debacle/#trainwreck sink.
Remember the Government Spending rule of 10: Every project or program will cost 10 times as much as originally projected.
Obamacare was advertised to cost $1Trillion. $10Trillion seems much more likely
They don’t have a clue what ObamaCare will cost. What’s the cost of knocking millions out of their health coverage?
What’s the cost of taking the most excellent health care in human history and ruining it?
I doubt that anyone on earth could make such a calculation.
What that sort of money I’m surprised that any of these contractors are still around. I’d be enjoying life on a yacht somewhere in the Caribbean with no way to reach me.
SO much cheaper to do this like Priceline or Ebay
Imagine a website that matches your needs and wants to a product - where companies compete for your business....
Something like priceline, travelocity, hotels.com and what-not.
Of course, they did nothing like that.
this was designed to be hideously disfunctional.....aka a train wreck.
as the No Reasonable Expectation to privacy stated in CODE...was exposed during the house hearings this morning...things are bound to get interesting if THAT is followed up on...
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was this a no-bid contract?
Then again, as you said it was supposed to fail
I can go on Travelocity or some other travel site, and I can find for any given date air, car rental, hotel, and even incidentals with a few short clicks and in about a minute. I’ll get all the airlines, all the flights, all the departures times from every connection, for every possible flight from where I’m at to where I want to go, and even doing legs of a journey to that destination.
I’m working on a real estate software system I wrote over the last 5 years. Very sophisticated. Well over 50,000 lines of code if you include everything. It’s 99% complete.
But damn, that last 1% verification is a bitch. Keeps me from selling the system.
Magnify my problems times 100 and you have Obamacare.
Good luck buckos fixing that spaghetti code!
Someone at one of these companies should create a mock-up of what a real health insurance marketplace site would look like.
I’m betting Travelocity didn’t spend half a billion dollars on just its software.
I’m not a developer by any means, but I do a lot of administrative scripting. Can’t tell you how many times I’ve had to re-work somebody else’s scripts that tested fine using a trivial test set and spun up and froze when confronted with actual production data.
some one of the reps ,,at the end of the House Hearing this morning asked why no on had Apologized......for this utter fiasco.
no one had a reasonable answer.
one of the “lets not politicize this” chumps had to chime in that no one who “shutdown”....the government had yet apologized for being so mean to obama....and obamacare..
the facts are on the table and America isnt THAT stupid....
The republicans didnt write the stinking thing and that wont be overlooked when the chit really hits the fan.
Everybody test markets new products.
You’d think test marketing new software would involve trying to overload it with customers.
And you think you’d discover at that point that it wouldn’t take even ONE customer.
or say they needed 5 years of development and 2 years of testing.
Bernard Madoff and Allen Stanford must be dying of envy.
It's almost like the thought it would work in production because the computers wouldn't dare dissappoint The One.
But this CGI, for a $22k campaign donation, got a $290 million no-bid contract.
Not a bad ROI.
I need some investment tips like that.
I've seen firms advertise on the web that they'll do advanced software from scratch for your business with applications for customers, inventory, you name it, and be talking in the neighborhood of 300 grand.
The scandal is that's the way government works. This company had someone stuff their pockets with about 289 million dollars profit at a cost of 290 million dollars.
That is fraud.
And it's the reason government costs so much. It's not a new idea. It's as old as county commissioners having Uncle Zeke's Blacktop Company pave roads at a double or triple the cost bid because of "quality". Everybody shares in splitting up the overpayment.
This is like Solyndra, huge payouts for naught
was this even a contract that got bidded on?
I’ve read that it was a no-bid contract, but the only reason the military could ever do a no-bid was if there was only a sole provider.
I’m betting there are hundreds of software firms in the country.
I have seen Priceline and Travelocity, why couldn’t they just do something like that? Find the company/policy you want and then click through to secure servers to sign up?
Wouldn’t that have been so much simpler?
There is nothing more complicated in what they wanted to do than Priceline and Travelocity. They could have bought their software and adapted it. And I bet for a whole lot less money....about 280 million less.
And my personal info is secure on those sites.
Like has been said, this was supposed to fail. All that money went to slush funds probably.
This is such an obvious huge failure that embarrasses the democrat brand that you've got to wonder if the Obama cronies aren't really this stupid. It's hard to believe they're that stupid, but it is a possibility.
If they intentionally wanted it to fail, then you've got to wonder why.
So they can push for single payer, it’s not exactly a secret that they want it
Single payer will never get past the House of Representatives. And it shouldn’t get past a Senate in which we have 46 Senators supposedly opposed to it.
The rats would have to win 60 seats in the Senate and take over the House in 2014 to turn this into single payer.
Wait until the GOPe passes amnesty and conservatives stay home in 2014.
For about 10 years I was an Online gaming beta tester (Tested everything from Everquest to Warcraft.)
One of the main tests I was part of in every game was stress testing the servers including the login server.
There is noway this bunch of clowns actually did a valid stress test and gave this turd the go ahead to go live.
Reports are that they did a stress test: It failed at a few hundred users and they turned it live anyways.
In the real world the guy that made "THAT" particular decision would be fired.
But sense we are talking about the Gub'ment and Gub'ment contractors he will probably get a bonus.
I think the only good test is a true “trial run” by a portion of the real end users, using real data. That’s how they test a movie. They screen it before a real audience of potential viewers. They should’ve paid 100 actual citizens to log in at the same time and try to complete the Barrycare process. Of course, load-testing with really high numbers is harder to do and has to be simulated. But, they also should’ve done the testing a year ago, not the last week before the roll-out. That part should’ve been obvious...
Why aren’t we pushing a constitutional amendment to ban single payer? We need amendments so that it’s not easy for the Dems to do this stuff if they happen to have one good election cycle. We could’ve had a pro-marriage amendment years ago to stop the judicial tyranny legalizing same-sex marriage everywhere, but we didn’t do that either.
Why don’t we have a constitutional amendment requiring a budget?
We used to argue over a “balanced budget” amendment. The truth is that there is NO constitutional requirement to have any kind of budget.
That should be fixed.
The government should not be permitted to operate and spend money on whim. Approve a trillion and then go spend it however. That should be a crime.
True, but Travelocity doesn’t allow you to input your tax return data so that the gubmint can calculate if you “deserve” a subsidy on your tickets.
Not precisely so, but you can input credits, and that would be the basis of a similar kind of feedback loop.
I do this kind of thing for a living.
That they tested this thing for a sum total of TWO WEEKS PRIOR TO LAUNCH is unfathomable.
An enterprise site like this should have been on code freeze in mid-spring, and they should’ve been running test cases on it and writing up bugs and fixes for it ever since.
The incompetence demonstrated here is truly mind-boggling.
I design online trading interactions for a living. Our business initiatives come to life via defined projects with budgets for each project. Approximately 30-40% of our total cost per project goes to QA. Our QA guys go bananas on our code for 2-3-4 months prior to launch, using tens of thousands of test cases and scripts; they write thousands of bugs, and right before release, for months, all we’re doing is bug fixes. If we get lucky, sometimes it’s only a month/six weeks.
They tested this ACA site for TWO WEEKS.
If your company were writing this software what would they charge for it for a normal customer (let’s assume they didn’t know it was the federal government)?