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More legal trouble for Affordable Care Act
Los Angeles Times ^ | October 25, 2013 | By David G. Savage

Posted on 10/25/2013 6:42:44 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

If computer glitches are not enough of a problem, President Obama's healthcare law also has a legal glitch that critics say could cause it to unravel in more than half the nation.

Critics of Obama's healthcare plan are suing over a part of the law that offers tax credits through state exchanges. If they win, the program falls apart in 36 states.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: failure; obamacare; rinocare; socialism
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To: MrB
A minor detail. He never should've been in the car in the first place. He may not even have been qualified to drive (nobody knows for sure) (another symbolism) nor did he care.

But, okay, he didn't do it out of malice.

21 posted on 10/25/2013 7:07:25 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: brownsfan

If only we could nominate a ‘moderate’ candidate...someone like a McCain or a Romney, we’d win for sure because it would attract lots more moderates! /s


22 posted on 10/25/2013 7:08:38 AM PDT by tatown ("So a Hispanic shoots a black and is acquitted by women, but it's still white men's fault.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I like your posts, Oldeconomybuyer.

It all depends on how you interpret “an exchange established by the state.”

That’s the exact words of the stupid law. Republicans are reading it at face value. “The State” meaning like, Virginia. Looking at each state as a separate entity.

Democrats are reading it like “the state”, like “the government.” As in “an exchange from the state” is “an exchange by mother government” and therefore the law applies, and they should get their tax credits.

If the Supreme Court (where it ends up) is honest, they will admit that law says what it says to people who can read.

Or they’ll read it like Democrats, and interpret “a state” as “the state”. Like states have no individual standing, and a state line is just a geographical marker. “


23 posted on 10/25/2013 7:08:52 AM PDT by ToastedHead
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To: Texas Eagle

This thing is coming undone, people.

When the LA Slimes, NY Slimes, CNN, CBS News all start dumping on it...you know it’s in trouble.

They’re all flashing red warning signs to the Democrats.
Eject!!! Eject!!!


24 posted on 10/25/2013 7:13:49 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Starboard
That sure looks to be the case. Just yesterday Issa was on the afternoon Cavuto Show (Fox) and he said words to the effect that “we want to help make this work” (not exact quote but close). It really was an astonishing and self-destructive remark

Yeah...and he's about to introduce "immigration reform".....more astonishing and self-destructive work.

25 posted on 10/25/2013 7:14:40 AM PDT by spokeshave (While Zero plays silly card games like Spades - Putin plays for keeps.)
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To: tatown

“If only we could nominate a ‘moderate’ candidate...someone like a McCain or a Romney, we’d win for sure because it would attract lots more moderates! /s”

Here, let me type real slow so you can understand:

R - 20
I - 47
D - 30

Nominate all the conservatives you like. Piss of every single liberal and moderate. Then let me know how much better things get for you?

Being conservative and appealing to moderates isn’t mutually exclusive. Being hardline conservative and appealing to anyone but conservatives isn’t likely.


26 posted on 10/25/2013 7:18:08 AM PDT by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
This thing is coming undone, people. When the LA Slimes, NY Slimes, CNN, CBS News all start dumping on it...you know it’s in trouble.

We can't let Obama's Press Corpse do our dirty work for us.

We know Republicans won't.

Stay on 'em, boys!

27 posted on 10/25/2013 7:18:37 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: brownsfan

My point was that your math is irrelevant (and “moderates” do not equate to “independents”). It is the GOPe that continues to champion “moderates” as the primary target for campaigns. That is the teachings and strategy of Karl Rove (who in my opinion can drop of the face of the Earth straight into Hell at any time).

The so-called moderates aren’t interested in being convinced by conservatives. They vote (i) their emotions - how compassionate their view themselves and (ii) the market “pocket book” - redistribution that feeds their personal compassion/piety.

The best strategy is to get patriotic Americans back in a mood to vote. Moderates aren’t the target.

The “Reagan Democrats” weren’t “moderates”, they believed in a prosperous USA and Reagan delivered.


28 posted on 10/25/2013 7:19:17 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: brownsfan
- We needed health reform,

Why?, what exactly is wrong with our "health care" ? just curious

29 posted on 10/25/2013 7:21:13 AM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Like law matters to these people.

The only way to get rid of this monstrosity will come through the ballot box. Trusting this regime to obey a court order it won’t like is folly.


30 posted on 10/25/2013 7:22:50 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

We need a breakdown for how many people are signing up for private insurance and how many people have signed up for medicade.


31 posted on 10/25/2013 7:22:52 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Texas Eagle

Oh, the absurdity of having a philosophical discussion about “Fast Times at Ridgemont High”...


32 posted on 10/25/2013 7:25:05 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: brownsfan

Correction. We can’t win elections WITH moderates. Any compromise with communism is surrender.


33 posted on 10/25/2013 7:26:02 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

“The best strategy is to get patriotic Americans back in a mood to vote. Moderates aren’t the target.”

The moderates I know have voted, and will vote Republican when it’s reasonable. Many didn’t vote Obama in 2012, they either voted 3rd party, or simply didn’t have a presidential selection on their ballot.

The patriotic Americans stepping forward is unlikely. We have about 3 generations of kids who have been indoctrinated to believe in all this Marxist crap.

There are two paths to take. One is to be hardline, hold to what’s near and dear, and don’t negotiate. Take no prisoners as you fade into irrelevance. It’s simple math.

The other is to tread water. Win the elections we can, draw in moderates, attempt to educate them, and make them see conservatism doesn’t mean starving kids, fouling the environment and making slaves of people. While winning those elections, if we don’t take back the schools, we’re doomed no matter what we do.


34 posted on 10/25/2013 7:27:44 AM PDT by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: Paladin2

I’ve heard that they rigged up registered voting via this platform as well...so if you live in some state this month, and move over to another next month...it’d seem like you’d have to redo your health package, and possibly register to vote in yet another state. Seems like insurance fraud, voter fraud, and such...would go up drastically.


35 posted on 10/25/2013 7:29:09 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: NativeSon

“Why?, what exactly is wrong with our “health care” ? just curious”

For me, nothing.

Cost especially and access secondarily. Remember many moderates buy into the healthcare as a right meme.


36 posted on 10/25/2013 7:30:58 AM PDT by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: MrB

Sheeeyit. Discoursing on “Fast Times At Ridgemont High” is an intellectual smorgasbord compared to the world we live in.


37 posted on 10/25/2013 7:31:52 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
“Moderates” are simply liberals (socialists) who can’t bring themselves to admit it.

Useful idiots is my best description.

The unspoken behavior amomgst the true Reds is that the "usefully idiots" are put up against the wall and shot right along side the conservative resistance. Just like Central America in the 1980s.

38 posted on 10/25/2013 7:34:35 AM PDT by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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To: brownsfan

The R, I, and D ratios you keep posting are completely meaningless. For example, the I’s have grown and the R’s have shrunk because conservatives are leaving the R category by the droves. I would have thought you would have known that before spewing your ‘we need to be more moderate’ garbage.

Using your own words ‘let me type this real slow so you can understand’, let’s see how your formula works in the real world:

2008
Obama - 365 electoral votes
McCain (moderate) - 173 electoral votes

2012
Obama - 332 elector votes
Romney (moderate) - 206 electoral votes

You’ve had two moderates in a row get their collective doors blown off. I would suggest we try a different type of candidate next time around....maybe someone not quite as moderate.


39 posted on 10/25/2013 7:35:07 AM PDT by tatown ("So a Hispanic shoots a black and is acquitted by women, but it's still white men's fault.")
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To: brownsfan

Your friends aren’t moderates. They are socialists.


40 posted on 10/25/2013 7:37:01 AM PDT by impimp
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