Posted on 10/25/2013 9:45:13 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike
Thanks for replying JediJones. Given the remote possibility that you, or other freepers, are not aware of the following concerning constitutionally indefensible Obamacare, you may find it both interesting and disturbing.
As a consequence of citizens not being taught about the Founding States' division of federal and state government powers, and also trusting what Obama guard dog Fx News says about Obamacare, activist justices got away with their argument that the federal government has the constitutional authority to establish a public healthcare program like Obamacare.
But the truth about the constitutionality of Obamacare is this. Previous generations of Constitution-respecting justices had officially clarified that the states have never delegated to Congress, via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate tax and spend for public healthcare purposes.
"State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress. (emphases added)" --Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.Therefore we need to win elections to repeal it."Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States." --Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
"Inspection laws, quarantine laws, health laws of every description (emphasis added), as well as laws for regulating the internal commerce of a state and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c., are component parts of this mass." --Justice Barbour, New York v. Miln, 1837.
“Direct control of medical practice in the states is obviously (emphasis added) beyond the power of Congress.” –Linder v. United States, 1925.
Regarding elections to repeal Obamacare, please note the following. If patriots and former Obama supporters can get organized in time for the 2014 elections, the following scenario may be possible. If patriots can elect 2/3 conservative majority control in each House of Congress in 2014 then Congress will be in the following position. Congress will have the power, under Clause 2 of Section 7 of Article I, to override presidential vetoes. This means that Congress will be able to repeal Obamacare without Obama's signature.
From what I've read some companies are keeping people on their current plans through the end of 2014. I think some might be ending them at the end of 2013. But I think all anyone's received in terms of cancellations this year is an advance notice, and no one is technically off their plan at this current date. So if this law somehow passed, all it would entail is the companies rescinding the cancellations.
Anyway, I haven't looked at his law yet. So I don't know if it's requiring companies to keep the old plans, or making that an option for them. I would prefer to make it optional...free market principles and all.
Okay, and I should add, I’m all for any ongoing and future lawsuits to repeal Obamacare on constitutional grounds as well. But I’m not going to rely on that given the Roberts decision. It sounds like he just doesn’t want to be “interventionist” enough to repeal it and will find any excuse not to do so.
No, and I didn't say that.
What I said is that since Obamacare has been passed, expenditures and implementation already done, will raise the cost of all healthcare premiums as a whole, and all preexisting plans will cost more no matter what is done about the status of Obamacare..
Good idea. Next, the good Senator should introduce a law prohibiting the tide from coming in or going out.
Ron Johnson exhibits the same level of ignorance Obastard does.
A conservative-controlled Congress will be able to impeach activist justices like Roberts.
Piven-Cloward can go both ways.
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