Skip to comments.High school cheerleader car wash violates environmental laws
Posted on 10/25/2013 10:10:17 AM PDT by markomalley
Its hard to wave your spirit fingers when the city shuts down the cheerleading squads fundraising car wash to protect the environment.
This is what happened to Lincoln High School cheerleaders trying to raise money to attend a national competition in April. The San Jose Mercury reports that local environmental officials warned the high school cheerleaders that their car wash violated the citys water discharge laws.
We had a visit from the city of San Jose Environmental Services Department who said that the car washes at Hoover [Middle School] are in violation of water discharge laws, therefore we had to cancel this and all future car washes, said an email that was sent out to neighborhood email lists on Oct. 18.
Anything that is not storm water or rain water is considered a pollutant, said Jennie Loft, acting communications manager for San Joses Environmental Services Department. If it goes into a storm drain, that pollutant will harm wildlife and habitats in the creeks. Water goes directly from the storm drains into our creeks.
The city intervened in response to two complaints received about the car wash events Lincoln High Schoolers had been holding at Hoover Middle School. City officials reached out to school and district staff to give them information on how to prevent pollutants from getting into storm drains.
The city also gave some tips on how they can have legally compliant cars washes.
The Mercury reports: Conduct car washing over gravel, grassy area, or other earthen areas if possible Ensure that wash water (soapy or not) does not run into a street, gutter, or storm drain Wash water from paved areas should be collected and diverted either into the sanitary sewer system or a landscaped area Use different methods to protect the storm drain system Ensure no soap stains remain on the ground.
These byzantine regulations dont just apply to high school sports teams struggling to raise money, but also to individuals who want to give their car a rinse.
What most people should do if washing their cars at home is park it on the lawn so the water is diverted into landscape, Loft said. Or go to a designated neighborhood car wash, so it doesnt go into the storm drain.
According to the Mercury, the Lincoln High School cheerleaders still need funds to get to their competition and are welcoming contributions by check to Lincoln Cheer 2013-2014, Lincoln High School, 555 Dana Ave., San Jose, 95126, attention Mrs. Phillips.
No bake sales, either.
How about a ‘calender’?................
I didn’t know these types of car washes were allowed anywhere anymore.
Besides the soap runoff problem - they also waste water. My city has banned these for many years now.
HS and other orgs still do it here, practically every weekend somewhere here in town some group is having a car wash.......
Must be that evil dihydrogen monoxide pollutant again.
and to think it will be mixed with soap (usually considered to be a fertilizer) and dirt ... terrible stuff.
Let’s see they have outlawed Phosphorus and every other chemical that actually works at getting something clean so what exactly is the problem this time?
The kids are learning a valuable lesson right there...
“I didnt know these types of car washes were allowed anywhere anymore.”
Really? Around here they’re extremely common.
Did the guy look like this?
If the car-washers were boys, Obamatollah would grant an exemption.
Especially during Ramadan.
Especially during gay pride week.
Is this true?
The Boys Sports teams should hold a Mass Wizz into the storm drains.
The mental image people generally have of totalitarian government is something like Aushwitz or Kolyma or the Killing Fields. Some time before that final solution stage is reached we get to “Simon Sez” government wherein you may do nothing without explicit permission.
Some of the oldest translated text was “he took abundance from abundance and there was still abundance” Today, the anti-hum crowd fears the abundance of earth and lives lives of unhappiness.
I know the architect of the universe would not allow this and the creator, that started this planet spinning in a perfect spot in the universe to create what we have would never care about 1 or a million car washes.
It is the hubris of man and governments to play a God they do not understand and believe that he created will be here long after these people have gone and not enjoyed their time here.
I live in Texas. We are in severe drought conditions. Every city has Stage 2 water restrictions. You can’t water your lawn except once a week. And it must be before 10:00am or after 6:00pm.
Stuff like that.
yes...it's true...this man has no dick.
That just makes sense drought, or no drought.
Besides the soap runoff problem - they also waste water. My city has banned these for many years now....Soooo..the city is getting a kickback from the car washes in the area, right? Or haven’t you looked into that? Somebody pays for the water, the the soap is, by regulation, biodegradable and what is the problem?
BTW, who is that? :)
Are tears also covered?
What a goofy f’n world.
I hope those students affected see what has happened.
He’s the EPA inspector who tried to shut down the Ghostbusters’ operation.
Nekkid is OK, but no clothing or body paint displaying the American Flag.
My town limits watering to once every 2 weeks.
and its rained a lot lately.
My local Stage 2 Water restrictions.
I live in Texas and I see several fundraising car washes every weekend from the start of the school year until it gets too cold.
We have them all the time. Ain’t no way in hell the people of Oklahoma would let the Gestapo tell us we couldn’t have a car wash! The soap run-off problem....really???
Just curious, when it happens to rain on those 500,000 dirty San Jose vehicles where does all that filthy water go?
The city is taking care of that problem as well i imagine, or maybe they should fine or ban god while they are at it.
I HATE Leftists.
San Antonio is not that wevere. Yet. And we had a good wet summer too. My St. Augustine was (and still is) green.
wevere = severe.
Many people are surprised by all this crap. I’m not. I know how they think. They are communists and want to control everything.
I’m about 40 miles from San Antonio
Nope it is not the water that is the pollutant, it’s the soap and the runoff from impervious surfaces going into the storm drain system. I live in an area where two major river systems are under serious threats because of urban and agricultural runoff. Diverting runoff into retention ponds or following other practices that minimize or eliminate it all together are not draconian. Now I should mention the main threat our rivers face is because of Army Corps of Engineer’s policy on discharging water from Lake Okeechobee. They of course never have to show the same concern for valuable natural resources as us common folk.
The city in this instance explained how to avoid violating policy and the changes needed are not that drastic, don’t wash cars on the pavement, divert it to a retention area. This is not a case of nonsense rules made to oppress innocent citizens and well intentioned students.
Yup—our water shortage in my area (Austin) is really severe.
I’m looking out my window at Lake Travis. I’ve never seen it down this low. We have gotten a few inches of rain in the last week or so, and it’s helped a bit, but our water usage is still restricted.
I just wish we could get enough rain to refill Medina Lake. Have you seen that place lately?
Paul Wevere was a weaver who wanted a waiver where-ever he went.
Look up “run off” and figure out how it is a source of pollutants to rivers, and creeks, and why that might possible harm valuable wildlife and impact the local economy.
My name is Peck
At least you have water. My place at Medina Lake is dry.
At last report that lake was about 5 percent full.
Weawwy? (Elmer Fudd speak)
Between that and Die Hard, I think the guy was just a bit typecast.
No, but Canyon Lake doesn’t look all that bad, IMO...
You would think with all the rain the level would go up more.
I heard about that Lake Medina. That is so sad.
The rains will come in due time—unless the desert is trying to take a huge part of the Lone Star State back.........
I am pretty much almost all enviro regulations, but this isn’t one of them in a densely populated area.
I didnt know these types of car washes were allowed anywhere anymore.”
One of the local high schools in the Houston suburbs had one last weekend which took place in the Sonic parking lot. I don’t buy from Sonic any more but did patronize them. Good way for kids to raise money - at least in parts of Texas kids are still allowed to do kid things which lets them be involved.
“All is well. You did not come here to fix a broken world. The world is not broken. You came here to live a wonderful life. And if you can learn to relax a little and let it all in, you will begin to see the universe present you with all that you have asked for.” - Abraham Hicks
Boat Ramp in my community leading to Medina Lake.
soap is bad. Who knew?
must suck to live in the city.
I don’t know why so many here are raging about sensible rules to keep lakes, rivers, and creeks clean. Our local economy has been severely impacted by our two major rivers being slowly killed by urban,and agricultural runoff, and ACE discharges from Lake Okeechobee. Fishing has in the past been a big business here. When major algae blooms and fish kills start happening because of changes to the water due to the runoff it matters. It is not just a “liberal” cause.
Caring about where you live and the resources that are a source of income for many is not being a Communist. It is caring about stewardship and the responsibility God gave us to care for and respect His creation.