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Dutch Lady Recalls Travel in Cabin Neighboring the Oswalds Aboard S.S. Maasdam in June 1962
Google Groups ^ | December 10, 2010 | Perry Ver Meulen

Posted on 10/25/2013 10:31:33 AM PDT by Vigilanteman

As written by me earlier this month, I came in contact with a lady who travelled from Rotterdam to Hoboken, New Jersey on the ship Maasdam IV, thirteen days in june 1962. Just like the Oswalds did.

remarkable: never before was a passenger of the 1962-trip tracked down by anyone. remarkable: she was staying in cabin 471, the Oswalds slept in 473: they were neighbours. remarkable: she saw Oswald a lot, didn't talk to him. She never saw Marina and June.

She sent me two pictures: first time we see pictures of the ship during those days in june 1962.

http://www.perryvermeulen.nl/maasdam1962_1.jpg - Diner; neighbour of Oswald is second from left.

http://www.perryvermeulen.nl/maasdam1962_2.jpg - On deck; neighbour of Oswald is in the middle.

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TOPICS: Extended News; US: New Jersey; US: Texas; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: assassination; jfk; journey; oswald
With the 50th anniversary of JFK's assassination coming up in less than one month, I've been reading the Leperchaun's book Killing Kennedy.

Because I am so skeptical of so many JFK assassination theories, I still love checking out each one. O'Reilly may be full of himself, but he writes a damn good book here.

Cross checking his facts produced this interesting exchange and a couple of photos on the ship on which Lee Harvey Oswald returned to America with his Russian wife and daughter.

1 posted on 10/25/2013 10:31:33 AM PDT by Vigilanteman
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To: Vigilanteman
The photo links give 404 errors.

http://www.perryvermeulen.nl/maasdam1962_1.jpg

http://www.perryvermeulen.nl/maasdam1962_2.jpg

2 posted on 10/25/2013 10:36:15 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The photo links give 404 errors.
Hmmm, more fuel for the conspiracists?
3 posted on 10/25/2013 10:43:17 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Vigilanteman

Why does the author point to all those very plausible things and non-events as being “remarkable”? Someone who just happened to be in a room close to the Oswald’s and didn’t particularly attempt to communicate with them is “remarkable”? Oswald was described as somewhat anti-social and as a loner, so why is it remarkable that he didn’t interact very much with fellow passengers? And even if he had, so what?


4 posted on 10/25/2013 10:50:48 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Vigilanteman
"Because I am so skeptical of so many JFK assassination theories, I still love checking out each one."

There's a good reason to be skeptical of so many of them - even if one is right, all the others must be wrong.
5 posted on 10/25/2013 10:52:37 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Vigilanteman

Read Ion Pacepa’s books- best re assassination


6 posted on 10/25/2013 10:53:20 AM PDT by capt B
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To: Steve_Seattle

The guy’s website is full of interesting grist for the conspiracy mill if you read just a little Dutch. Between my meager knowledge of German (linguistically very similar to Dutch) and cut and paste into a site such as freetranslation.com, you have some fascinating stuff here.


7 posted on 10/25/2013 11:05:57 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Steve_Seattle
My favorite conspiracy theory about this event is detailed in the book ‘1963’ by Stephen King.

Oh wait, that was fiction?

8 posted on 10/25/2013 11:31:56 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: green iguana

The Zapruder film was tampered with; that is
a simple fact which demonstrates that the government
wanted to give the public a different version of events
than what actually happened.

One can go on from there...

(Mrs. Kennedy also believed that others were involved,
including one well-known political figure. And she
was in a position to know more than most.)


9 posted on 10/25/2013 11:40:25 AM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: Vigilanteman

The Commie did it, end of story.


10 posted on 10/25/2013 11:41:28 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Steve_Seattle

Let me comment on the word Remarkable I used three times back in 2010.

remarkable: never before was a passenger of the 1962-trip tracked down by anyone.
THIS IS REMARKABLE. Every passanger aboard the bus to Mexico was tracked down after the assassination, but never ever any passenger from the SS Maasdam came forward, let alone give a affavidit.

remarkable: she was staying in cabin 471, the Oswalds slept in 473: they were neighbours.
LET ME REPHRASE THIS: not remarkable, but noteworthy/ extremely coincidental

remarkable: she saw Oswald a lot, didn’t talk to him. She never saw Marina and June.
REMARKABLE IN THIS WAY: there are people on the internet that suggest Oswald did not take this ship. Here is some one who finally says, out of first hand: I saw him, he WAS on that ship.


11 posted on 10/25/2013 11:41:50 AM PDT by perry vermeulen
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

They don’t anymore.

http://www.perryvermeulen.nl/maasdam1962_1.jpg

http://www.perryvermeulen.nl/maasdam1962_2.jpg


12 posted on 10/25/2013 11:41:50 AM PDT by perry vermeulen
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To: Vigilanteman

Thanks Steve.
I was blogging on the assassination in Dutch several years ago; today I write in English on http://threeshotswerefired.com/.
All Dutch items will eventually be translated ordently on this new website.


13 posted on 10/25/2013 11:42:02 AM PDT by perry vermeulen
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To: perry vermeulen

I don’t see Lee Harvey anywhere?


14 posted on 10/25/2013 11:45:56 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: Vigilanteman

You are all wrong, Bush did it...


15 posted on 10/25/2013 11:49:33 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
she saw Oswald a lot, didn't talk to him. She never saw Marina and June.
16 posted on 10/25/2013 11:51:49 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: lonestar
I thought we were looking for Oswald. We're looking for his cruise neighbor.

http://www.perryvermeulen.nl/maasdam1962_1.jpg - Diner;
neighbour of Oswald is second from left.

http://www.perryvermeulen.nl/maasdam1962_2.jpg - On deck;
neighbour of Oswald is in the middle.

17 posted on 10/25/2013 11:55:36 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I’m sorry to dissapoint you, but I never wrote he was in the pictures... Only reason why I uploaded them in 2010 and again today, is because they give a good impression of the atmosphere on board...


18 posted on 10/25/2013 11:58:15 AM PDT by perry vermeulen
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To: perry vermeulen

Thanks so much for coming forward so quickly! I’m looking forward to reading more on your English blog. High school German is only of marginal use for reading Dutch.


19 posted on 10/25/2013 12:17:13 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: perry vermeulen

I wasn’t blaming you. I was blaming my reading comprehension deficit.


20 posted on 10/25/2013 12:30:03 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: green iguana
My favorite conspiracy theory about this event is detailed in the book ‘1963’ by Stephen King.
Oh wait, that was fiction?

You didn't like the fiction version co-written by that other King, Leslie King, Jr.?

21 posted on 10/25/2013 8:41:24 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Vigilanteman

Wrote a big part on the SS Maasdam IV,

http://threeshotswerefired.com/

I’ll dig up more in the future, have to look in my personal archives, I know there is more to tell. I’ll also write more in the future on the trip Minsk-Rotterdam, interesting days in june 1962.


22 posted on 10/29/2013 4:16:15 AM PDT by perry vermeulen
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