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Delaying the individual mandate is a bad idea
Washington Post ^ | October 25, 2013 | Editorial Board

Posted on 10/25/2013 4:31:50 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Despite the intolerable failure of the Obama administration to warn the country that HealthCare.gov would not work at launch, there is still plenty of time for the government to make the required fixes.

Even if it takes some weeks more to get the site in reasonable order, insurance buyers will probably have plenty of time to obtain coverage before running afoul of the penalty.

The penalty against individuals lacking health-care coverage is a crucial tool in the effort to drive people into the new system. Delay it, and you’ll get fewer people signing up in the first part of next year, and insurance companies will demand, with good reason, to renege on the rates they are offering for next year’s coverage.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: failure; individualmandate; journalism; obamacare; obamacaredefrauds; obamacarelies; rinocare
The Editorial Board of the ComPost could write for the North Korean Times. They love "penalties" that "drive people into a system" they don't want.
1 posted on 10/25/2013 4:31:50 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
“Delaying the individual mandate is a bad idea” say the members of the Washington Post Editorial Board,all of whom,I'll wager,are exempt from its provisions.
2 posted on 10/25/2013 4:34:58 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The $95 penalty-tax is a miniscule part of the problem. These people are nuts (imo). Delaying a miniscule part of the problem or not delaying it won’t do squat.


3 posted on 10/25/2013 4:36:45 PM PDT by MulberryDraw (That which cannot be paid, won't be paid.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The penalty against individuals lacking health-care coverage is a crucial tool in the effort to drive people into the new system.

Your papers, please.

4 posted on 10/25/2013 4:36:53 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The Fascist Post


5 posted on 10/25/2013 4:37:45 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"The penalty against individuals lacking health-care coverage is a crucial tool in the effort to drive people into the new system. Delay it, and you’ll get fewer people signing up in the first part of next year, and insurance companies will demand, with good reason, to renege on the rates they are offering for next year’s coverage."

Justice Roberts, are you listening? No "tax" here. . . . just a "crucial tool" for "driving" the youth of America to buy a product they don't want, in order to "redistribute" their hard-earned dollars to another set of voters.

Sounds like the Washington Post Editorial Board has pretty well summed up what those radical "Tea Partiers" were saying from the beginning!

6 posted on 10/25/2013 4:38:29 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: MulberryDraw

It’s not a $95 penalty unless you make $9500 a year, above that it is 1% of your income, in 2015 I think its 2% and after that 2.5%


7 posted on 10/25/2013 4:38:48 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Editorial Board, you idiots, the issue is not the penalty. The issue is lack of coverage as of January 1


8 posted on 10/25/2013 4:39:51 PM PDT by kushnejz
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To: loveliberty2

Marxists love mandates.


9 posted on 10/25/2013 4:43:17 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
While marching over the cliff is a good idea.

Paging Lemmingcare. Sorry, I can't afford the package that includes the 200 foot drop but I can afford the 100 foot drop. Yes, I know there is slight chance I may survive the 100 foot drop but I'm sure that will add to the excitement on the way down.

10 posted on 10/25/2013 4:44:13 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Yes, yes...by all means ignore the 20 Dem senators calling for the mandate to be delayed.

We may end up picking up 10 of those seats.

11 posted on 10/25/2013 4:44:20 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“in the effort to *drive* people into the new system”

Sheep are driven. Blow me Barry.


12 posted on 10/25/2013 4:47:08 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

13 posted on 10/25/2013 4:50:36 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: GeronL

Thanks. I’m wrong. I thought the $95 was the upper limit. This penalty-tax really does suck.


14 posted on 10/25/2013 4:53:52 PM PDT by MulberryDraw (That which cannot be paid, won't be paid.)
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To: MulberryDraw

wait until the Obamatons find out!


15 posted on 10/25/2013 4:56:41 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: MulberryDraw
The $95 penalty-tax is a miniscule part of the problem.

I keep hearing about this $95 penalty. Is this per month? Or per year?

16 posted on 10/25/2013 5:01:14 PM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: umgud

It’s only $95 (month/year or whatever) if you make less than $9,500 for anything above that it is 1% of your income


17 posted on 10/25/2013 5:03:10 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

My comment. “Like” it and cause much despair among the communist libtards.

Comrades, is impossible to delay implementation of glorious National Socialist healthcare rationing system. If Kulaks and other diehard running dog capitalists are not held to strict letter of law (as redefined daily by Dear Leader Obama) then entire system will collapse, because, comrades, let’s face it, system is built on fear of glorious State Security Services! Once National Socialist healthcare rationing system is running tip-top like Novosibirsk Rocket Factory, then commissars working day to night in NSA-IRS-ACA data hubs will be able to liquidate health rationing for last capitalist stooges, and soon these running dogs will be thrown on ash heap of history. But now is most risky time for plan to implement National Socialist “single payer” system, as laid out by Dear Leader in speech to unions of 2003. First is required to liquidate remaining so-called “free market” medical corporations, by forcing them to pay for even sickest comrades with “pre-existing conditions.” Once old capitalist corporations are dead and buried in graveyard of history, then on to first-class “single payer” National Socialist health care rationing for all good comrades! By next five-year plan, Dear Leader’s dream will be realized, and all good comrades will enjoy first-class health rationing system like enjoyed by comrades in Democratic Republic Korea, and Worker’s Paradise Cuba!


18 posted on 10/25/2013 5:14:46 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Even if it takes some weeks more to get the site in reasonable order...

Could they be any more clueless?

19 posted on 10/25/2013 5:15:31 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The Post is pointing out the fragility of the ACA house of cards. Any delay of the mandate will reduce enrollments of young healthy people while the chronically ill continue to sign up. The insurers’ business formula is based on the timetable in the law and on the penalties. Once Congress starts tinkering it will be at the expense of the insurers who would then be justified in raising rates or pulling out of the program. The White House most likely has a single payer amendment, already written, to replace the private insurance component of the law. Maybe it’s hidden in the 20,000 pages of regulations.


20 posted on 10/25/2013 5:17:42 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Travis McGee

Done, great job!


21 posted on 10/25/2013 5:21:46 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Travis McGee

That’s a keeper.


22 posted on 10/25/2013 5:23:30 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“buyers will probably have plenty of time to obtain coverage before running afoul of the penalty”

PROBABLY?????

Great. Let’s base policy, taxes and penalties on unwarranted optimism. After all, practically every technically knowledgeable person who’s been invited on any media outlet to comment on the fixability of oBamKare.gov have declared the whole thing a disaster of near biblical proportions and very likely simply unfixable, as least for several months and maybe years.

After all, CNN and others have been citing an article that says 96% of all government IT projects with bid prices over $10,000,000 fail, while ESP solutions says it’s 70%: http://www.espsolutionsgroup.com/espweb/assets/files/ESP_QPM_ORG_revised.pdf

Only die-hard Obammunist supporters (like WaPo) are pretending like all is well in oBamaKare land, so let’s just keep plunging the rest of the train over the cliff too. And for anyone who believes that, I’ve got a sweet solid gold bridge in Brooklyn for sale cheap. It’s lit at night with rainbows, and Skittles-pooping Unicorns direct the traffic. Hey, pretty much like oBamaKare itself now that I think about it.


23 posted on 10/25/2013 5:28:30 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Travis McGee

Good Lord, how do you dream this stuff up?

I “Like” it.


24 posted on 10/25/2013 6:06:17 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
If Congress wants to help, it could make sure the necessary funds are appropriated to complete the Affordable Care Act’s implementation.

Oh, how I would love to see the looks on the face of Boehner and the rest of the House Republicans if Obama and Reid come to them requesting more money for ACA implementation. I don't know, if I was in their shoes, that I would be able to resist breaking out in uncontrollable, hilarious laughter. Followed, of course, by a loud, emphatic GET STUFFED!.

25 posted on 10/25/2013 6:13:24 PM PDT by Spartan79 (I view great cities as pestilential to the morals, the health, and the liberties of man.)
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Then, by all means, let’s not delay it. Implement fully 100% now. Good and hard.

Let’s also continue to have Medicaid enrollments piling up at an alarmingly high rate while also having the young and healthy enroll in Exchange plans at an alarmingly low rate. Please, more.


26 posted on 10/25/2013 7:10:25 PM PDT by FAA
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To: Travis McGee

Loved your comment!


27 posted on 10/25/2013 7:45:26 PM PDT by willk
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To: MulberryDraw

It’s not $95. It’s 1% of your income, whichever is higher. Then it triples every year. They will squeeze you until you join.

1% of my income is not something I am willing to pay!


28 posted on 10/25/2013 7:50:25 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
The Post is pointing out the fragility of the ACA house of cards. Any delay of the mandate will reduce enrollments of young healthy people while the chronically ill continue to sign up. The insurers’ business formula is based on the timetable in the law and on the penalties. Once Congress starts tinkering it will be at the expense of the insurers who would then be justified in raising rates or pulling out of the program. The White House most likely has a single payer amendment, already written, to replace the private insurance component of the law. Maybe it’s hidden in the 20,000 pages of regulations.

Everyone's already seen the CBS News story from this morning on there already being an unsustainable number Medicaid enrollees in states where the exchanges are working, right?
29 posted on 10/25/2013 7:55:33 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: tanknetter
Thanks for link. I saw another story tonight saying all of Oregon's enrollments—which were held up this week as an ObamaCare success story—turn out to be Medicaid clients. The Medicaid expansion is being funded by looting $760 billion from Medicare.
30 posted on 10/25/2013 8:21:59 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
... insurance buyers will probably have plenty of time to obtain coverage before running afoul of the penalty.

I wonder how they deduced the word "probably" in the above...sounds more like whistling past the graveyard.

31 posted on 10/26/2013 3:48:37 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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