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Welfare, Not Full-Time Work, Is Now America's No. 1 Occupation
Investor's Business Daily ^ | October 25, 2013 | The Editors

Posted on 10/25/2013 6:53:34 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Edited on 10/26/2013 3:25:23 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Dependency: "Is Welfare The New Normal?" we wondered in an editorial last Thursday, and we didn't have long to wait for an answer. On Friday an answer came back in depressing new data from the Census Bureau.

CNSNews.com's indefatigable data hound, Terence P. Jeffrey, dug into a few routine Census releases recently and discovered something shocking: More people in America today are on welfare than have full-time jobs.


(Excerpt) Read more at news.investors.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: bho44; dependency; economy; employment; obama; obamalegacy; welfare; welfarestate
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Unsustainable.
1 posted on 10/25/2013 6:53:34 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I agree 100%.

We need to make things in America.

We need to stop importing everything, and we need to balance our trade.

We need to do all those things.

We are spending our country.

BRING BACK AMERICAN JOBS.

Now.


2 posted on 10/25/2013 6:55:41 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

THere are now more people on the wagon than pulling it.


3 posted on 10/25/2013 6:56:10 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the.tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why work when you can make more money living on the Government dole (welfare, food stamps, housing subsidies, etc), not to mention you are eligible for Medicaid.


4 posted on 10/25/2013 6:57:14 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Why should they work? Obama EO’d the ‘Secretary’ (Sebelius, of course) the power to tell states that they no longer have to get proof that anyone on welfare is actually looking for a job. Free money at the expense of hard working Americans who believe you should work for what you have. Obama did not grow up in America. HE HAS NO WORK ETHIC HIMSELF. Why should his minions have a work ethic??
5 posted on 10/25/2013 6:57:43 PM PDT by originalbuckeye (Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The thing is more people want to be on welfare then work.....very sad


6 posted on 10/25/2013 6:59:00 PM PDT by tophat9000 (Are we headed to a Cracker Slacker War?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bookmark


7 posted on 10/25/2013 6:59:44 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Maybe we should stop pulling and see what happens...


8 posted on 10/25/2013 7:00:30 PM PDT by One Name (Ultimately, the TRUTH is a razor's edge and no man can sit astride it.)
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To: originalbuckeye

Wonder what they mean on that chart by “Federal Supplemental Security Income?” Is that Social Security disability or something else?


9 posted on 10/25/2013 7:02:31 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ted Cruz/Sarah Palin 2016)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I can understand where some people get on it to survive the way the job market is but as we know there are many more who are on it because it is there and they do not want to work and/or it is the only thing they know after being on it for generations. This is unsustainable and a bad thing for this country as we all know.


10 posted on 10/25/2013 7:02:58 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (I miss you, Whitey! (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012) It has been a year, rest in peace, pretty girl!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Meanwhile, there were just 101.7 million people with full-time jobs, the Census data show, including both the private and government sectors.

This makes it far worse than the head line would suggest because the government is now the nations largest individual employer.

It all the worse because government workers taxes debts are paid from private sector worker’s taxes. Very few government workers actually contribute to the nations GDP.

11 posted on 10/25/2013 7:03:49 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

any type of welfare should mean no voting rights!


12 posted on 10/25/2013 7:04:58 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And there are now more corrupt unionized government employees than exist in all of private sector America.


13 posted on 10/25/2013 7:05:08 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: originalbuckeye

I played golf about 25 years ago for the last time. My boy discovered the clubs in the barn and trashed them after breaking some stuff with worm-burners and short shots.

obama has lead a much more charmed life than I; he wouldn’t last a good day out here.


14 posted on 10/25/2013 7:05:42 PM PDT by One Name (Ultimately, the TRUTH is a razor's edge and no man can sit astride it.)
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To: Pontiac

This makes it far worse than the head line would suggest because the government is now the nations largest individual employer.

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See #13.


15 posted on 10/25/2013 7:09:01 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They can’t possibly increase taxes enough to cover the monthly nut.


16 posted on 10/25/2013 7:09:34 PM PDT by Veggie Todd (I don't always talk to Obama voters, but when I do I ask for Large Fries.)
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To: fabian
any type of welfare should mean no voting rights!

Agreed. I always favored a test before one can vote where they need to know how to read and speak English, know basic math and history as well. Go on welfare, you lose the vote until you get off of it plus a 6 month waiting period. The exceptions are if one gets welfare from being disable for a bona fide reason, but they still have to pass the test.
17 posted on 10/25/2013 7:10:30 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (I miss you, Whitey! (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012) It has been a year, rest in peace, pretty girl!)
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To: One Name

Atlas Shrugs?


18 posted on 10/25/2013 7:10:54 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the.tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“There are now more people on the wagon than pulling it.”

And if that continues beyond 2016 at the very latest, America is lost! WTF is wrong with the people in this country that they are willing to trade their freedom for “false security.”


19 posted on 10/25/2013 7:11:16 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In Texas 70% of Illegal Aliens Receive Welfare

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/04/in-texas-70-of-illegal-aliens-receive-welfare/


20 posted on 10/25/2013 7:11:26 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Survival of the Unfit

Charles Darwin’s Theory of Evolution (often referred to as The Theory of Survival of the Fittest) describes the positive effects resulting from any “pressure” on an animal species that removes the least fit among the species and allows only the most fit of the species to reproduce. Many of us are well aware of this “Survival of the Fittest” theory, but few are aware that Darwin also makes mention of the negative effects resulting from unlimited reproduction of a species’ least fit when the weak, the lazy, and the stupid are left unchecked.

We like to think otherwise, but our species, Homo sapiens, isn’t that long “out of the trees” and the same laws of nature that affect all of God’s creatures apply equally to us. If we were to observe any other species that had been allowed to reproduce without limitations, we would know immediately what the consequences will be.

Whenever the weak; lazy; and stupid of a species is allowed to reproduce unimpeded by predators that feed off the weak; lazy; and stupid, they soon outnumber the strong, productive, and intelligent. When the weak/lazy/stupid dominate the gene pool, the entire population becomes weak/ lazy/stupid, and then the population collapses.

In the past, when these collapses occurred within human populations, they have been referred to as a “Malthusian Collapse.” Thomas Malthus, a Nineteenth Century Economist, thought these collapses were caused simply because past civilizations had reached a point where human populations could no longer produce sufficient food supplies to feed themselves, but he never pinned down the exact reason for these food shortages.

We now think these collapses of past human civilizations have occurred whenever the unproductive weak/lazy/stupid greatly outnumber the strong/productive/intelligent of the population. In other words, the majority of the population becomes too lazy to perform the work necessary to provide for themselves and what’s left of the strong/productive/intelligent refuses to continue to do it for them.

These collapses have occurred at frequent intervals throughout human history, and Western Civilization is, in my humble opinion, currently on the cusp of one of these collapses.

D.J. Taylor

21 posted on 10/25/2013 7:12:09 PM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: One Name

But I can tell you what will happen, the government will just create money out of thin air until hyperinflation sets in and destroys the savings of every responsible citizen, and they will eventually destroy the economy for 30 years.


22 posted on 10/25/2013 7:13:28 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the.tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Ya buddy.

They can’t work it without us, but they’re welcome to try.


23 posted on 10/25/2013 7:13:49 PM PDT by One Name (Ultimately, the TRUTH is a razor's edge and no man can sit astride it.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

They’re doing that right now, as we speak.

You can’t eat paper.


24 posted on 10/25/2013 7:18:09 PM PDT by One Name (Ultimately, the TRUTH is a razor's edge and no man can sit astride it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’d like to see it broken down by State.


25 posted on 10/25/2013 7:25:08 PM PDT by Spirochete (Does the FedGov have the attributes of a legitimate government?)
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To: vette6387

They have been beaten down for so long by the Obama economy that they feel they must accept a government handout to survive. And without a drastic change in laws and regulations, it is only going to get worse.


26 posted on 10/25/2013 7:39:08 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the.tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
BRING BACK AMERICAN JOBS.

Jobs don't just fall on people. The lazy aholes sucking down your and my tax dollars because it's easier to sit around drinking beer, smoking dope, screwing out more dependent chilluns, watching TV, playing scratch off lotto tickets, etc. need to get off their dead asses and LOOK FOR WORK. There lots of jobs out there. BUT THE BUMS NEED TO WORK LOOKING FOR THEM and they need to accept less than the perfect job where they get paid a lot for doing nothing. OOPS that's what they have now.

27 posted on 10/25/2013 7:41:20 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Nowhere Man

yes..and there will be hell to pay when we can no longer pay out! They will take however possible at that point in time..and the will be war...all breed by the communists.


28 posted on 10/25/2013 7:42:45 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: DJ Taylor

See the movie Idiocracy.


29 posted on 10/25/2013 7:50:31 PM PDT by When do we get liberated? (A socialist is a communist who realizes he must suck at the tit of Capitalism.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve been looking for full time work since the end of June. Even though I was eligible for about $330/week in unemployment benefits I figured sitting home collecting a check was an easy habit to get into so I started looking right away. So far I’ve found a 3 week temp job at $9.25/hr was the best offer I could find. There is plenty of work at places like Kroger, McDonalds, Home Depot, etc., that pay minimum wage for 20 hours per week with no benefits and virtually no chance of making full time with benefits. I took a job at Kroger for a while because I thought that unemployment would compensate me enough to bring it to what I would get by sitting at home but they bungled it so badly that to this day I have collected exactly 1 check. Now I’ve quit Kroger, won’t look for anything that isn’t at least temp to perm and will wait for a check because they punished me for trying.

Today on the news they made a big deal about UPS taking on thousands of new workers. What they didn’t mention is that the jobs are seasonal, paying $8.50/hr with no benefits. Again, it’s not worth passing up my unemployment check.

My wife and I are very fortunate. For years I held down a good job, enough so that we have a house that is paid for (along with everything in it and our vehicles), no debt and some savings to pay the bills. My plan now is to keep looking for work while at the same time exploring other countries with a lower cost of living that we can move to. If I can’t find anything I will sell everything we have and get the Hell out of Dodge. My American Dream is in tatters. I didn’t throw it away by overspending, or drugging and drinking myself to ruin, or not working my butt off all of my life. It just collapsed around us.


30 posted on 10/25/2013 7:59:17 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: One Name

I’m game.


31 posted on 10/25/2013 8:05:13 PM PDT by FreeperCell
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To: DJ Taylor


32 posted on 10/25/2013 8:09:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ted Cruz/Sarah Palin 2016)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Send me your resume and I’ll send you 10 job openings a day in your area until you’re employed. I was a career counselor for about 20 years.


33 posted on 10/25/2013 8:13:02 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ted Cruz/Sarah Palin 2016)
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34 posted on 10/25/2013 8:14:32 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

too many in the wagon, not enough pulling the wagon


35 posted on 10/25/2013 8:20:02 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

when the money or food runs out

its gonna be ugly


36 posted on 10/25/2013 8:20:43 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Blood of Tyrants

yep


37 posted on 10/25/2013 8:20:59 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

An answer to this is to shore up the tax code so that the elite; the power brokers and politicans actually pay for allowing the system to reward non-work over work.

The reason it goes on is it doesn’t hurt the big girls and the big boys. When they realize 100 million are getting a free ride on their tail, it will stop.

But I’m no tax expert, so...


38 posted on 10/25/2013 8:21:49 PM PDT by Paulie
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I don’t think it means more people are on welfare than working. there are a few of those programs, like food stamps, wic, public housing and Medicaid, where some also work. the real number should be simply those collecting welfare cash benefits.


39 posted on 10/25/2013 8:23:22 PM PDT by willywill
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To: FreeperCell

“Winnowing” could be an important concept.


40 posted on 10/25/2013 8:23:43 PM PDT by One Name (Ultimately, the TRUTH is a razor's edge and no man can sit astride it.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“They have been beaten down for so long by the Obama economy that they feel they must accept a government handout to survive.”

No question that the “Obama Economy” is the root cause, but it’s been all by design in my opinion. Getting most of us on the dole is easier if there are insufficient jobs and I firmly believe that the economy is where it is because that’s what Obama needs to complete his “transformation.” At the same time, people of this current generation are not of the same cut of cloth as those who came up through the Great Depression as our parents did. It was bad, but somehow people got through without becoming slaves to their government!


41 posted on 10/25/2013 8:26:52 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am pretty sure that is SSI, paid out to those that have not paid into Social Security or not paid in enough. It is a needs base program, some but not all are disabled- but for some reason is paid out of Social Security. Some think it is the main reason Social Security is running out of money.

SSDI is the one that is for people who have paid into Social Security and worked enough to qualify for benefits before becoming too disabled to work. From what I hear it is easy to get on SSI, nearly impossible to get SSDI, makes sense since every thing is upside down these days.

I think we are supposed to be confused about that, it is like calling illegal aliens immigrants. Muddies the water so people don’t wonder why this is paid out of Social Security monies.

http://www.ssa.gov/pgm/ssi.htm


42 posted on 10/25/2013 8:31:36 PM PDT by Tammy8
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To: GeronL
when the money or food runs out

Keith Ellison already let the cat out of the bag when he said that there is plenty of money. The government just need to take it. So the government isn't going to run out of money as long as there is a single dollar in anyone's bank account or pension plan

43 posted on 10/25/2013 8:41:30 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga

When it happens, that money won’t last long

but they will be rounding up scapegoats for show trials and camps and public executions before its over


44 posted on 10/25/2013 8:42:43 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL
but they will be rounding up scapegoats for show trials and camps and public executions before its over

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

45 posted on 10/25/2013 8:49:05 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.

CBS NEWS: HIGH Medicaid enrollment threatens Obamacare…
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3083746/posts

Rush on Medicaid could spell trouble for ObamaCare’s health
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3083764/posts

Ooops: State Health Benefits Site Gave 8,000 People Bum Premium Quotes
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3083765/posts


46 posted on 10/25/2013 9:29:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This article grossly understates the problem, because it ignores the millions of people on government payrolls.

The private sector simply cannot support the millions on government payrolls combined with the over 100 million people on some sort of welfare.

This is why we have exceeded $17,000,000,000,000 of debt and continue to print fake money to the the tune of $80,000,000,000 per month.

The system is crashing under its own weight with the “takers” taking much much more than the decreasing number of “makers” can ever produce. The FedGov’s “solution” is to print money until the whole system implodes. Welcome to the third world. FUBO

47 posted on 10/25/2013 9:51:52 PM PDT by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the Whitehouse.)
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To: DJ Taylor
so who's the stupid ones?...who are the foolish?....if you always thought that hard work, showing up for work, giving it your best, paying taxes on top of it, then you and I are the stupidest and most foolish around...

we've put up with it and so here we are...

thx bama and his voters and you know who you are....

48 posted on 10/25/2013 9:57:14 PM PDT by cherry (.in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

B4L8R


49 posted on 10/25/2013 11:08:00 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Save


50 posted on 10/26/2013 1:00:18 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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