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Welfare, Not Full-Time Work, Is Now America's No. 1 Occupation
Investor's Business Daily ^ | October 25, 2013 | The Editors

Posted on 10/25/2013 6:53:34 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Edited on 10/26/2013 3:25:23 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: fabian

“any type of welfare should mean no voting rights!”

The same with any government employment (at least at the level on which one is employed - state workers can’t vote in state elections, fed workers can’t vote in fed elections, etc.). Who do you think they’re going to vote for?


51 posted on 10/26/2013 2:41:09 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

“My American Dream is in tatters. I didn’t throw it away by overspending, or drugging and drinking myself to ruin, or not working my butt off all of my life. It just collapsed around us.”

I hope things work out; despite what some may say, for many people there was simply no way to escape this. American companies don’t want to pay wages according to supply and demand unless they get to flood the supply with cheap foreign labor; in that scenario the guy who has to bring home a certain minimum to pay for housing and children is basically screwed. He’ll always lose out to the younger, unmarried, childless person who can afford to work for less. As a result, the last generation of Americans is subsidizing the next wave of “replacement Americans”; NOBODY will risk the long-term financial investment of children or houses anymore. Auto loans now have the same “bad loan” risks as hme loans did ten years ago; there is no stability to the job market.


52 posted on 10/26/2013 2:47:53 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: One Name

Interesting times. Aren’t they?


53 posted on 10/26/2013 6:14:45 AM PDT by FreeperCell
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To: kearnyirish2; fabian

IMHO, until we get rid of the 16th & 17th, ANY entity that receives taxpayer (gov’t) $$ loses their ability to vote and/or ‘donate’ to the political process...and make the penalty HURT and hurt HARD.

All too often the crony capitalism is just as bad, if not worse, than the leech class. At least in this way, they may get something, but there’s no giving back.

It’s been my thought, if you can’t pull the lever (or a new ‘drain’ on the system), you should have NO input in the system. No commercials, no ads, no print, no NOTHING.


54 posted on 10/26/2013 6:44:48 AM PDT by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of the problem(s).)
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To: i_robot73

Remember, it’s just not the American born bums and leeches ...it’s also many, many foreign born bums and leeches who are slithering into this country by the boatload, every single day. Their #1 priority is to get on welfare, asap ...so they can “make it” here.

We support them, and then we support their parents, and their grandparents, aunts and uncles.

I see it every single day in healthcare. All they do is flash the Medicaid card and they’re “in.”


55 posted on 10/26/2013 7:02:59 AM PDT by LibsRJerks
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The dirty little secret is many of them ARE working on the side for cash while still collecting goodies.


56 posted on 10/26/2013 8:34:54 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Wonder what they mean on that chart by “Federal Supplemental Security Income?” Is that Social Security disability or something else?”

It’s SSI vs. SSD. SSI has gotten to be so close to SSD now they are interchangeable.


57 posted on 10/26/2013 8:36:11 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Can’t say I disagree, although I wonder if anyone has the moral courage & charisma to convince people currently on the dole & voting to either get off and go to work, or to vote to cut back their own paycheck.

Right now the democrats are sitting upon a mountain of debt money and charisma all arguing to go the other way, and they won’t stop until the laws of nature force them to stop.(they run out of other people’s money & confidence.)

Then they will either start fighting each other over the scraps or they will turn to the few of us who still produce to scream at us for not working harder to support their lazy thieving asses.


58 posted on 10/26/2013 8:42:52 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Monorprise

See that is the problem.

The GOP doesn’t care about American jobs, because they’re subsidizing China’s explosive growth.

(a bad move IMO)

The Dems likewise don’t care about American jobs, because they’re subsidizing China’s explosive growth.

(see a pattern here?)

Bring back American jobs. To America.

Then we can stop paying Americans money, bankrupting our government.

Bring back US jobs.


59 posted on 10/26/2013 9:02:18 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: LibsRJerks

Not that I care WHOM, if the States want to continue these programs, go for it; but as far as the Fed is concerned, they, and a BUNCH of other ‘programs’, Dept, etc. MUST (should) be abolished if we are to survive.

We have survived 100+ yrs. w/out following the Constitution, when do we submit the Declaration of Independence II?


60 posted on 10/26/2013 9:10:06 AM PDT by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of the problem(s).)
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To: originalbuckeye

Imagine trying to hire the spoiled entitled “people” out of the welfare pool.


61 posted on 10/26/2013 9:16:21 AM PDT by DungeonMaster
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“The GOP doesn’t care about American jobs, because they’re subsidizing China’s explosive growth”

Why would the GOP care about China’s explosive growth? We don’t even like what China represents or rather uses to represent ideologically.

China, India, and Mexico are getting our jobs because like it or not they can and do work for a lot less This is a combination of drastically lower standards of living and other Government imposed regulatory standards.

We have minimum wages, high costs of housing, food, and of course welfare which makes work only beneficial if we can earn enough extra money.


“Bring back American jobs. To America.”

The only way do that is to make American workers competitive, or to raise the cost of imports while we still have enough money of our own to pay for much more expensive American made products.

Of course down the line we could go a long way towards making our own goods & services more competitive if we, killed the income tax, and instead went to a sales tax that effected every product regardless of where it was made.

Destroying our regulatory state would also go a long way, towards making Goods & services more cost effective to make here. It really isent as hard as you think it is as demonstrated by the fact that so many northern manufactures are moving south rather than overseas.

Just the State imposed burdens such as unionization, and State taxes & regulations when avoided can keep us afloat. Shipping isn’t free after all, in reality its it’s own form of natural tariff.


62 posted on 10/26/2013 9:21:52 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Monorprise

“Why would the GOP care about China’s explosive growth? We don’t even like what China represents or rather uses to represent ideologically.”

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Repeating that statement for effect.

The GOP needs to work for American businesses.

Now.


63 posted on 10/26/2013 9:25:08 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: i_robot73

I agree; we have a self-perpetuating “government class” that is paid by the taxpayers to either work or not work, and they are strong enough to continue voting themselves increasing shares of taxpayers’ incomes. Here in NJ (and probably throughout the northeast, as well as CA) that mentality has driven away our best & brightest companies & talent. It has reached a point where the welfare/workfare mechanics has to be nationalized by the Dems to entitle the NJ & CA “government class” to incomes of people in TX and NE; hence we have Medicare’s prescription drug plan, ObamaCare, etc.


64 posted on 10/26/2013 9:50:15 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: cherry

“so who’s the stupid ones?...who are the foolish?....if you always thought that hard work, showing up for work, giving it your best, paying taxes on top of it, then you and I are the stupidest and most foolish around...
we’ve put up with it and so here we are...”

As stupid as we may be, the gubmint knows it will work as long as it keeps motivated people out of the welfare reservations (that is the carrot they dangle). If working your tail off left you in an apartment that was part of a welfare hive filled with low-IQ primates, then everybody would be on the dole. Whenever I see a news story of Obama voters dying in some ghetto shooting or tenement fire, I remind myself that they are there because they (or their parents) opted for that.

This morning I heard a news story about three children dying in an apartment fire in the Bronx; their mother and 2 other children got out. They hadn’t paid their utilities (so they were shut off), and were using candles to light the apartment. The children didn’t deserve to die, but the parents deserved to lose them because they opted to spend our money given to them for their 5 kids on something other than electricity.

God help those children, growing up then dying in those conditions; God damn those parents.


65 posted on 10/26/2013 10:05:07 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. —Ronald Reagan


66 posted on 10/26/2013 1:14:44 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“We need to make things in America.

We need to stop importing everything, and we need to balance our trade.”

.........................

...they are slogans.

Solutions to achieve your slogans include:

Reducing the crushing burden of government laws and regulations. Preferably by half.
Reducing the size of government and its authority. Preferably by half.
Take away the unfettered rule making authority of agencies.
Reducing tax rates on businesses.
Obviously get rid of the Obamacare requirements.

Most importantly, SPAY OR NEUTER ALL ATTORNEYS so they cannot reproduce and implement loser pays laws on lawsuits.


67 posted on 10/26/2013 1:30:06 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I grew up in America. I now live in the United States..)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Welfare, Not Full-Time Work, Is Now America's No. 1 Occupation"

Or Part-time Work, "Not Full-Time Work, Is Now America's No. 1 Occupation" Interesting. The new useless eaters, and the political class is demanding their extermination (leaves more government pork for the socialist political folks).

It will be popcorn time, when the bipartisan, socialist hogs of big government incomes (including local governments) are laid off permanently. It will be more entertaining than the show put on by their comrades in Greece.

Have fun. Enjoy the slide.


68 posted on 10/26/2013 2:58:01 PM PDT by familyop
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To: kearnyirish2
American companies don’t want to pay wages according to supply and demand

Not exactly an Econ major or businessperson, eh?

69 posted on 10/26/2013 3:03:23 PM PDT by Teacher317 (Obama is failing faster than I can lower my expectations.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

70 posted on 10/26/2013 3:15:52 PM PDT by 4Liberty (Some on our "Roads & Bridges" head to the beach. Others head to their offices, farms, libraries....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Short list

Cut energy regulations, energy drives industry, commerce, and innovation

KILL the EPA, period.

71 posted on 10/26/2013 4:01:41 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: Teacher317

Actually I am; what is your point? They deliberately undercut American wages by simply importing surplus wages, and if they can’t do that, the work is ismply sent to countries with human rights records we would never tolerate here.


72 posted on 10/26/2013 4:27:41 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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73 posted on 10/26/2013 5:02:51 PM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

But first, let’s get rid of that RAT bastard commie muzlim pig 0dumb0 and the demoRAT socialist party!


74 posted on 10/26/2013 6:34:41 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

But first, let’s get rid of that RAT bastard commie muzlim pig 0dumb0 and the entire demoRAT socialist party!


75 posted on 10/26/2013 6:44:42 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

I think when we settled on the idea of allowing US jobs in the 1980/1990 period to go out of the country...we started a trend. Drive around southern towns (not urban areas) and look at industrial buildings that were built in the 1970s and 1980s. Half of them are shut down. If they are open...they are mostly on stagnant wage situations for a decade now.

The Fed? They added to the mess by setting the prime rate at such a goofy low point. Banks are generally in a failed point but survive because of the low prime. My dad talks of the great days when his CD accounts all paid five to six percent (not seen in fifteen years).

The real estate market in most states is stagnant. Overpriced homes bought in the 1990s....today thirty percent below the original price. No one is happy....most complain continually of the market.

The government is now believed by many to be the Jesus-figure that they’ve been waiting for....prepared to fix all problem, and always with a mythical solution of sorts.

The only weapon at our side? Eternal American optimism. Two hundred years of this stuff, and we still have it in abundance. The problem is that we are waiting for something to occur to make us feel positive that the good times will return. We’ve been waiting for a minimum of fifteen years....and yet to see this big moment.


76 posted on 10/27/2013 1:06:56 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: fabian
any type of welfare should mean no voting rights!

Voting while on welfare is a conflict of interest.

77 posted on 10/27/2013 3:04:33 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (-)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We have crossed the Rubicon, the takers now outnumber the makers.


78 posted on 10/27/2013 8:39:48 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The goal of the left is to make this happen even more. When the working, honest producers say “enough” the leftists will go for their ultimate goal: a complete takeover of the US economy. (That will equal communism, although the people with their heads up their anal cavity won’t know it.)


79 posted on 10/27/2013 12:11:37 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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