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Cruz tells Iowa GOP his tactics fired up conservative base
NBC ^ | 10/26/2013 | Kasie Hunt and Andrew Rafferty

Posted on 10/26/2013 2:34:37 AM PDT by South40

Moderation isn't going to win more seats for the GOP in Congress in 2014, Ted Cruz told Iowa Republicans on Friday. Instead, the junior senator from Texas told them, the answer is firing up the conservative base.

"For everyone who talks about wanting to win elections in 2014, particularly in an off year, a non-presidential year -- nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing matters more than an energized and active vocal grassroots America," Cruz told the crowd of about 600 people at the state GOP's annual Reagan fundraising dinner. "That's how you get elected."

The speech marked the third time in three months that the Texas Republican has pitched -- and in some ways, preached -- his fiery brand of conservatism to activists in the state that gets first say in the presidential nominating contests.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: cruz; teaparty; tedcruz

1 posted on 10/26/2013 2:34:37 AM PDT by South40
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To: South40

I can only hope that this message is forcefully delivered to McConnell.


2 posted on 10/26/2013 2:37:28 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: South40
We are so hungry for another Ronald Reagan.
We NEED one real bad. . . . . . .
I will take a Ted Cruz any day over a wimpy RINO.
3 posted on 10/26/2013 3:05:27 AM PDT by DeaconRed (Ted Cruz is looking smarter every day. I could waltz across Texas with Sara Palin. . .)
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To: South40

The problem is, can we win over enough moderates to counter the government freebie vote?


4 posted on 10/26/2013 3:40:35 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: Paladin2

The only acceptable message needing delivery to McConnell is that he has lost, period. Nothing else is anywhere close to acceptable.


5 posted on 10/26/2013 4:11:01 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: South40

Heck yes it did and we have Cruz missiles ready to fire off at command!


6 posted on 10/26/2013 4:46:56 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

Grubmint freebies will run out... bet cards go back to 2008 levels of funding on Nov 1!


7 posted on 10/26/2013 4:48:34 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

EBT... Darned IPad.


8 posted on 10/26/2013 4:49:14 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

The Dems will blame the GOP, and the freebie crowd will buy it and demand more.


9 posted on 10/26/2013 4:51:08 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: LibLieSlayer
And check out what the makers of that iPad are up to.

Fellow Billionaires Move To Take-Down The Tea Party

10 posted on 10/26/2013 4:53:20 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

“The problem is, can we win over enough moderates to counter the government freebie vote?”

This is the question that has led us to defeat in the last two presidential elections, and in IMHO it is the wrong question to ask. Is there any way that anyone who is voting for their “Free Government Sh*t” is ever going to choose the Republican over the Democrat no matter how moderate that Repbulican might be?

Ted Cruz is hitting the nail on the head here. We have to energize the base - or to be more precise, we have to energize the minority of Americans who are actually being productive and paying into the system.


11 posted on 10/26/2013 4:59:27 AM PDT by Junk Silver
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To: Junk Silver
Let me rephrase. We need to win moderates, actually as many Americans as possible, over to Conservative values. If we don't and the moderates go for Hillary (for example), we will still lose whether we run Cruz, Palin, or some RINO.
12 posted on 10/26/2013 5:04:46 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: South40

torches and pitch forks at the ready!


13 posted on 10/26/2013 5:10:17 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

“Let me rephrase. We need to win moderates, actually as many Americans as possible, over to Conservative values.”

Exactly! We need to win the moderates to our values, not dilute Conservatism until it’s just “Liberalism-lite”, which never works. I think the same thing applies to immigrants and the Hispanic vote. We’ll never out-amnesty and out-free-sh*t the Democrats, but some immigrants who are interested in having the country they immigrated to remain free and prosperous will be open to our message. The rest we would never get, no matter what.

The Obama-care trainwreck is a great opportunity to reach these people. The left can get away with lying about the exploding national debt and Obama’s disastrous foreign policy, but how do you lie about cancelled health-insurance policies and massive premium increases? Here are the results of big-government Liberalism, right in people’s faces. And not one Republican voted for it.


14 posted on 10/26/2013 5:31:30 AM PDT by Junk Silver
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To: South40

He’s right and the RINOs know it - they keep claiming they have to “moderate” while they screw us, and Cruz proves them wrong. They hate him with every fiber of their being because the light of Truth exposes them the same as it exposes the cockroaches on the declared left.


15 posted on 10/26/2013 5:44:19 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty
We know for damn sure that running moderates is only good for losing races. The Whigs have proved that repeatedly.

/johnny

16 posted on 10/26/2013 5:48:51 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Junk Silver
On the Hispanic vote, we have common ground.

Hispanic rally overwhelms Rhode Island State House at "gay marriage" hearing, followed by 12-hours of testimony. Committee vote pending.

As you said, "some immigrants who are interested in having the country they immigrated to remain free and prosperous will be open to our message", we have common ground. What we do with it may be up to us.

17 posted on 10/26/2013 6:09:56 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

They always have and always will but those that believe them are a shrinking group.


18 posted on 10/26/2013 6:13:55 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

Yeah, I saw it but what should I do... ATT has their entire network in this area down due to server failure? Also... Apple is owned by stockholders as well...Rush being a big one.


19 posted on 10/26/2013 6:16:08 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

“Let me rephrase. We need to win moderates, actually as many Americans as possible, over to Conservative values. If we don’t and the moderates go for Hillary (for example), we will still lose whether we run Cruz, Palin, or some RINO.”

Perhaps my perspective is skewed by being from Colorado. We don’t have “moderates” per se. We have Unaffiliated Voters. I know personally a bunch of UAF’s who are NOT moderate. They are disaffected conservatives, libertarians, white working class men, young and uninvolved etc. I’m sure some are actually moderate in the sense they don’t want people to argue.

I write off the “don’t argue” folks right away. Nothing will be accomplished to save America by lack of conflict. Conflict with progressives is an essential part of getting our nation back. They will not surrender power without a fight.

Some UAF’s are, of course, just liberals who don’t want to admit it. Maybe they’ll come around someday. But they too are pretty hopeless.

But the rest of the UAF’s are up for grabs—but not with moderation.

White working class men (the Reagan Democrats) respond to economic populism and social issues—guns, abortion, homosexual marriage, amnesty. Limited government per se does not do it for them. However, us vs the big companies and big government who are keeping you down does. That’s effectively a limited government argument that speaks to them.

Libertarians and conservatives respond to Constitutional and limited government/limited spending issues and gun issues. Amnesty, abortion, and homosexual marriage issues turn them off.

Conservatives respond to limited government/constitutional issues and, in addition, the entire social issue group.

Young and uninvolved, surprisingly, respond to gun issues (a little known fact is that positive attitudes toward guns in the 18-35 bracket is stronger than in any other age group). Abortion, and homosexual marriage issues turn them off but they are reachable on amnesty. The Obamacare fiasco is possibly a teaching moment for them on limited government issues, about which they have not thought much.

So all of of these UAF groups unite on gun issues. Three of the four unite on amnesty and limited government/spending if it is posed correctly. The difficulty is keeping them together on homosexual marriage and abortion.

None of these groups responds to vacuous moderates like McCain, Romney, McConnell and Boehner. So the GOP-E has a losing strategy, unless the goal is to keep enough power to continue shoving subsidies toward their buddies. In fact, that is the core problem. That central truth about the GOP-E is what increasingly is driving conservatives, libertarians, and white working class males out of the GOP.

The tough part, of course, is stitching together a coalition that includes these four groups on other issues along with the GOP. The other tough part is keeping GOP money in races where the GOP money is there because it is donated by businesses that WANT a big powerful government that spends money with their companies and cheap labor from Mexicans. The later problem has been partly solved with independent groups like Freedom Works and AFP—but most money in GOP primaries is still greedy, business money.


20 posted on 10/26/2013 6:38:14 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: South40

Ted Cruz sent out an email that says:
“I’m urging you now to share this new website, www.MakeDCListen.org, with your friends, family and co-workers. Please post your written story and upload videos on this site about how Obamacare is hurting you, then ask others to do the same.”

I went to it and it is good. I don’t know how to make it automatic so you can just click on it and get there. Maybe someone can do it for me....


21 posted on 10/26/2013 6:42:16 AM PDT by native texan (Texans should be independent thinkers)
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To: South40

Keep on Cruzin!!!


22 posted on 10/26/2013 8:53:39 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: ModelBreaker
But the rest of the UAF’s are up for grabs—but not with moderation.

You lost me there. I never said anything about moderation. I said we need to win the middle over to Conservative views. We're not going to get Conservative leaders again until we do.

23 posted on 10/27/2013 11:56:12 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: LibLieSlayer
They always have and always will but those that believe them are a shrinking group.

I hope you're right, but...

2006. 2008. 2012.

Yeah, I saw it but what should I do...

Don't buy Apple. I know, slim pickings otherwise.

ATT has their entire network in this area down due to server failure?

So an Apple iPad was your only choice?

Also... Apple is owned by stockholders as well...Rush being a big one.

Then isn't Rush supporting this attack on the Tea Party with his $$$, even as he speaks out against it?

24 posted on 10/27/2013 11:57:14 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

“You lost me there. I never said anything about moderation. I said we need to win the middle over to Conservative views. We’re not going to get Conservative leaders again until we do.”

We differ a bit. What you suggest is important. But it’s more important that we start running constitutional conservatives for office. I don’t blame the UAF’s for ignoring the R’s. Most R’s say nothing in the campaigns except vapor and then they vote like D’s when important stuff is on the line. UAF’s know R’s are liars.


25 posted on 10/27/2013 9:14:32 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

Rush has as solid of a Conservative’s credentials as possible and whether he likes apple or not matters not. android and google are in bed with the nsa and they are far more sinister than apple. I won an Ipad and I will use it to communicate when other forms are not available... that is why I used it today. At least apple still tries to function as a Capitalist entity... google and their android system spies for governments and builds data centers to share our info with the controllers. Looks like all of this is tainted. That is America today and why we must change her and her current path.


26 posted on 10/28/2013 4:15:14 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: ModelBreaker
Where you and I disagree in on the cause of the problem. You say it's the RINOs, while I say it's the left shifting patterns of the voters that are electing them. Take the (former and current) GOP Senators from Maine or Massachusetts (Scott Brown, for example). Do you honestly think either state would elect pure Conservatives?

Or look at what just happened in New Jersey, where a Conservative (by all accounts I've read) lost to a Democrat by 10%. Same question.

This is why I say we need to win Americans over to Conservative values if we're going to elect Conservatives again. If we don't try, expect more Dems and RINOs.

27 posted on 10/28/2013 3:55:52 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: LibLieSlayer
Rush has as solid of a Conservative’s credentials as possible and whether he likes apple or not matters not.

Speaking out against something while supporting it with your money doesn't matter? You be the judge.

android and google are in bed with the nsa and they are far more sinister than apple.

I did say "I know, slim pickings otherwise." in the post you replied to.

I won an Ipad

That's different.

At least apple still tries to function as a Capitalist entity.

Al Gore thinks so.;) BTW, the company that build the Intel processors Apple now uses used its financial muscle to pressure the Boy Scouts to accept gays. If you bought an Apple, some of that was your money. At least with Windows, you can opt for an AMD processor and as little MS software as possible.

.. google and their android system spies for governments and builds data centers to share our info with the controllers.

I did say...

Looks like all of this is tainted.

Granted. It's almost to do business in America anymore without supporting the liberal agenda. I won't pretend I'm 100% successful at avoiding it, but I'm willing to consider alternatives where possible. For the tech savy, Linux on AMD.

That is America today and why we must change her and her current path.

As I said, consider alternatives to companies that support the liberal agenda where possible.

28 posted on 10/28/2013 3:57:06 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: LibLieSlayer
Make that, "Granted. It's almost impossible to do business in America anymore without supporting the liberal agenda."
29 posted on 10/28/2013 4:20:15 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: native texan

and then there is the resistance to being blue

30 posted on 10/28/2013 4:24:43 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

I go way out of my way to never buy any chicom crap. I have stopped shopping at Walmart but it is hard to be 100% buy real American in this day and age. I even swore off GM after a lifetime of GM trucks and cars. America needs revival and it needs it now!


31 posted on 10/29/2013 4:05:56 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

I did order a pair of Beck’s ALL American jeans. You are correct. It is a sad state of affairs.


32 posted on 10/29/2013 4:07:06 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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