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Obama Responsible for Over 1 Million People Losing their Health Insurance
Vanity | 10/26/2013 | Self

Posted on 10/26/2013 9:29:43 AM PDT by sr4402

Remember President Obama promising "You can keep your Health Insurance"? Well for over 1 million people that is no longer true, they have lost their health insurance directly because of Obamacare.

Over half a million in California were told their insurance was going away due to the Not-Affordable Health Care Act. Hundreds of thousand lost theirs in Florida as well. This is repeating over and over in the states. And the Media, wishing to promote Obamacare, is being forced to cover the losses.

Why aren't insurance companies continuing the coverage? It is simple, the Obamacare regulations have made it impossible to provide the low cost insurance most young folks prefer.

And it is the Young that are going to be pissed off!


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If you've lost your health insurance due to Obamacare, please let the Democrats/Progressives/Liberals and RINOs know by voting for SOMEONE ELSE!
1 posted on 10/26/2013 9:29:43 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: sr4402

And yet, he is going to be praised for this.


2 posted on 10/26/2013 9:32:36 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: sr4402

We’re hearing their retorts now…expect this drumbeat to swell in the coming weeks.
A) If the evil Republicans had not thwarted His Emminence’s plans, all would be well.
B) But the evil Republicans DID thwart His efforts, so clearly we need fully nationalized health care with no private doctors, no private insurance companies, and no private markets. Single-Payer NOW!


3 posted on 10/26/2013 9:35:04 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: nickcarraway
And yet, he is going to be praised for this.

Yes, but I have also heard that far more are losing their Health Insurance that are gaining it. Thus the number of uninsured Americans is growing by leaps and bounds.

4 posted on 10/26/2013 9:35:16 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: sr4402

Don’t forget to give the rest of the Democrats some credit too.


5 posted on 10/26/2013 9:35:33 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: sr4402
Guaranteed it's the lead story tonight on CBSABCNBCCNNpMSNBC. Oh, wait ...
6 posted on 10/26/2013 9:37:00 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: sr4402

The ObozoScare site seems to be working fine for previous Medicaid and new Medicaid patients. The ones who are the bottom feeders and will not have to pay for the plan.

Failure to log on seems to be happening with those who will have to pay for their care and the freebee scum bags.

“A good percentage of “Obamacare enrollees” are actually medicaid enrollees.” (both previous and new leeches, er enrollees)

We keep hearing about the success of enrollment in Washington and Oregon.

Well, in Washington and probably Oregon most of those successfully enrolled were current Medicare leeches and new enrollee leeches. They will be contributing Zero/Nada/0 bucks to fund their ObozoScare. It didn’t cost them a red cent to signup.

They will be taking money from those who work and have to pay for them, the ObozoScare Medicaid leech enrollees .

Below is a link to a Kaiser Permanente Newsletter which tells about the so called success in Washington re current Medicare Leeches and lack of those, who have to pay, signing up:

http://capsules.kaiserhealthnews.org/index.php/2013/10/in-some-states-most-early-marketplace-enrollees-qualify-for-medicaid/

In Some States, Most Early Marketplace Enrollees Qualify For Medicaid
By Phil Galewitz October 22nd, 2013, 1:28 PM

In several states, most of the people enrolling through new online insurance marketplaces are signing on to Medicaid, the state-federal health insurance program for the poor.
The reason?

Many of the uninsured are poor, and applicants don’t have to pay anything to sign up for Medicaid. Shoppers applying for private health coverage through the marketplace have to pay their first monthly premium before they are fully enrolled. Their first payment must be made by Dec. 15 for coverage to take effect Jan. 1. Most are expected to be eligible for some tax credits, up front, to help pay the monthly premiums.

“We believe the reason we are seeing the higher Medicaid numbers is many people [buying private health plans] will wait until the last minute to pay for their health coverage like many of us do with our cell phone or cable bill,” said Bethany Frey, spokeswoman for the Washington state marketplace.

About 30,000 of the more than 35,000 people enrolled in the Washington exchange have signed up for Medicaid. Under the health law, in states that opt into the expansion, Medicaid eligibility is being expanded to cover everyone with annual incomes under 138 percent of the federal poverty level, or $15,800 in 2013.

About 20,000 of the people who qualified for Medicaid in Washington gained coverage through the expansion, while the rest were eligible under existing coverage rules. Many of those who were eligible but not enrolled have been signing up as a result of the publicity around the new marketplaces, officials say.

Frey said about 56,000 additional people have completed applications to enroll in private plans in Washington but have not yet made a payment so they were not included in the state’s tally.
About two-thirds of people enrolling through Kentucky’s marketplace also qualify for Medicaid, said spokeswoman Glenda Bond. “We expected Medicaid enrollment to be more robust at the beginning because people can enroll without making a payment,” she said.

Of the more than 3,700 enrollments in process in Minnesota’s marketplace, about 2,500 are for Medicaid. Only about 400 are people who are enrolling in a health plan. But a look at Minnesota applications in process shows that private insurance enrollees could overtake the number of Medicaid enrollees in the weeks ahead — of 11,600 applications in the marketplace last week, more than 8,000 were for exchange plans.

Several states relying on the problematic federal exchange, including West Virginia and South Carolina, have also seen a surge in people applying for Medicaid because they have separate websites for Medicaid enrollment, which unlike the federal exchange site, are working. Other states, such as California, have not yet released data about what programs people have enrolled in.

Clarification: This story has been updated to reflect the number of people who are in the process of enrolling in Minnesota.

This entry was posted on Tuesday, October 22nd, 2013 at 1:28 pm.


7 posted on 10/26/2013 9:38:57 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( "With Obamascare you can die for your country without leaving home.")
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To: sr4402
Everything will be just peachy by the end of November. Guaranteed!
8 posted on 10/26/2013 9:39:56 AM PDT by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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9 posted on 10/26/2013 9:41:52 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: sr4402

Only i million?


10 posted on 10/26/2013 9:42:39 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: Cowboy Bob

i = 1


11 posted on 10/26/2013 9:43:10 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: sr4402

If the Republicans were smart, they’d start a body count scoreboard of how many people have LOST their insurance under Obama/Obamacare.

How Many People COULDN’T Keep Their Doctor Because of Obama’s Obamacare: _______

ANd just start rolling with this.

See if Bush was doing the same thing, the media would already be doing the nightly tallies for the democrats (as they are their propaganda arm).


12 posted on 10/26/2013 9:44:23 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: sr4402; caver
That's my feeling too. It is imperative that the dems as a group be hung with this travesty.

The Republicans need to start yelling about Ohomocare everyday and make sure that everyone in the country remembers how the democrat PARTY saddled us with this fiasco when November rolls around.

13 posted on 10/26/2013 9:45:45 AM PDT by skimbell
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To: onyx

Obama Lied

Insurance, Fried

Doctors’ Hide

People Died


14 posted on 10/26/2013 9:45:57 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: sr4402

15 posted on 10/26/2013 9:49:47 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Is John's moustache long enough YET?)
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To: Cowboy Bob

Should be about 7 million foreseeable right now.


16 posted on 10/26/2013 9:52:35 AM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: sr4402

200,000 here in ny


17 posted on 10/26/2013 9:55:18 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Secret Agent Man

The problem is that they don’t care if obamacare is repealed, stopped or destroyed...no party could be as politically stupid as to not be taking advantage of this....there is just no way that is possible.”..so, all it tells me is they are just waiting to get in charge of themselves, so they’ll sit around with their thumbs up their ass and work on passing amnesty

Any party with the slightest bit of fight would have had 500 people on the Capitol with their insurance cancellation letters in hand last Monday when Obama was having his little rose garden ceremony, but where were they? They don’t want it fixed.


18 posted on 10/26/2013 9:57:13 AM PDT by thestob (Marco Rubio and Paul Ryan are determined to destroy our country)
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To: skimbell

If only the Republicans would say something. Geez.


19 posted on 10/26/2013 10:03:59 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: sr4402
Worse yet, many people with chronic illnesses who purchased their insurance long before they were sick have lost their coverage because of Ubamacare, meaning they now have a pre-existing condition when they apply for their next policy.

Change!

20 posted on 10/26/2013 10:32:14 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: sr4402

This is how they do things. There are built in failures in all their laws. This was intended. Then, in a few years, they will be able to say they have to fix the crisis that they created, and mess things up even more.


21 posted on 10/26/2013 10:40:04 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: sr4402
you can add at&t mgt retirees to that total...starting in 2015 we loose what i worked over 30 years for...all because of the sob and his sh*t in the former White House..what low lying, lazy, impostor, fake pos he is.... my ins cost going from $100 month to about $950-$1250 given my age now and pre-existing condition oh what i would do if i could only do it
22 posted on 10/26/2013 10:54:04 AM PDT by ldish (Have had enough...you??????)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Worse yet, many people with chronic illnesses who purchased their insurance long before they were sick have lost their coverage because of Ubamacare, meaning they now have a pre-existing condition when they apply for their next policy.

This was fully intended to facilitate government imposition of full-on single payer socialized medicine. Ubamacare's collapse was built in as a feature not a bug.

23 posted on 10/26/2013 10:58:19 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Worse yet, many people with chronic illnesses who purchased their insurance long before they were sick have lost their coverage because of Ubamacare, meaning they now have a pre-existing condition when they apply for their next policy.

Which can mean HIGHER PREMUIMs.

The problem with the pre-existing folks now buying Obamacare is that they vastly outnumber the young buying Obamacare. The result is a financial disaster on the way!

24 posted on 10/26/2013 11:10:21 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: sr4402
I predict that this holiday season every household is going to have a "discussion" on Obamacare.

Liberals trying to defend their leader will find themselves sputtering and outmanned.

25 posted on 10/26/2013 11:13:33 AM PDT by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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To: ldish
my ins cost going from $100 month to about $950-$1250

Call a TV Station and do an interview.

Unless American's speak out, this kind of Socialism will win.

26 posted on 10/26/2013 11:13:53 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: sr4402
Which can mean HIGHER PREMUIMs.

If you a pre-existing condition, good luck getting health insurance, period.

27 posted on 10/26/2013 11:15:56 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: sr4402

Insurance companies are mean.


28 posted on 10/26/2013 11:21:00 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: ldish

I hope you’re advising the media about this fact.

Astonishing.


29 posted on 10/26/2013 11:23:07 AM PDT by Mears (Liberalism is the art of being easily offended.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
insurance companies are mean

They aren't in business to lose money. It's going to get real interesting when people have their Obamacare insurance (subsidized or not) and are told things they think they need aren't covered. What's going to happen when a person can't afford their deductible?.....I could see a whole new category of loan defaults emerge. That would be loans to cover deductibles, that people can't pay back. What happens when a person stops paying their insurance bill? Are they off the hook when they're cancelled, do they have to pay the fine, or will it be deducted from their paychecks? What's going to happen with people who move often, since every state has different policies?

The way I see it is that nedical care isn't going to be about healing us anymore. It's all going to be about public health things, to keep the population as a whole as healthy as possible. Could it lead to forced vaccinations? To reporting for a checkup and possible quarantine if there's an epidemic? To mandatory tests to show that a smoking or drinking addict really has given up their habit. etc, etc

The way I see it is medical care is over. Get books about nutrition, healthy exercise and life style, home remedies, natural healing, and first aid. No, I don't think I'm exaggerating or being a conspiracy lunatic....just connecting the dots.

30 posted on 10/26/2013 11:35:15 AM PDT by grania
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To: grania
That scenario seems plausible.

With these impossible deductibles, those who can afford it will sign up for concierge care, which runs about $100/mo., I believe. It would be much cheaper than paying a $6k deductible.

31 posted on 10/26/2013 11:44:20 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: sr4402

I’ve seen estimates as high as 16 million victims of Obomba’s “signature legislative achievement”.


32 posted on 10/26/2013 11:45:53 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
Insurance companies are mean.

Ha, but they are better than the Socialized care Obama and the Progressives are planning for America.

Their plans are to wipe out insurance companies altogether and give us Government Healthcare like in Great Britain. It will be the worst of service with Death Panels and little if any research and be run by non-medical people (IE Politicians looking for votes). You wouldn't like it. With months to see a doctor instead of days.

33 posted on 10/26/2013 11:47:37 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: sr4402

It’s more than a million.

I read earlier today that HALF of the !$ MILLION private policies are not ACA compliant.

Of course some may be grandfathered in for a period of time, but it’s far more than 1 million.

That’s gonna translate to a lot of pissed off voters.


34 posted on 10/26/2013 11:52:40 AM PDT by Raebie (WS)
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To: Raebie

That should be 14 million.


35 posted on 10/26/2013 11:54:25 AM PDT by Raebie (WS)
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To: sr4402

I know. I was just doing my “mean people suck” schtick.


36 posted on 10/26/2013 12:04:53 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: sr4402

After the 1970s the The socialist used their useful idiot freinds, in state governments to, to get them to vote for and mandate that employers be mandated to add various coverages to their health insurance plans.

Then the mandated coverages would become part of the next round of the useful idiots yelling and screaming about the health insurance statistics showing how much private insurance premiums have gone up (with a big government push
behind the causes of the increases). It was a political cycle often driven by government intereference in the insurance markets, not by free and independent insurance markets. Of course we know the goal was to HARM private insurance and to offer a “government insurance plan” to fix what in fact government had helped cause.

Well they didn’t get the single payer plan they really wanted.

So, the mandates remains as one of the modus operandi of blaming the insurance companies and private insurance as the problem - not the mandates, and the hook is the high rate - $90 some thousand as year for a family of four, that makes someone eligible for one of the Obamacare subsidized plans.

None of this - continued trying to destroy and defame private insurance is accidental; its been done on purpose. The Marxists wrote the law behind the scenes and their useful idiot stooges were told to just vote for it without reading it.


37 posted on 10/26/2013 12:28:41 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Mears

no one cares anymore...damage is done to all this year or next...once all these companies make this decision you cant put it all back together...hey at&t loves it....they have have a pot of money that was set aside to take care of former employees...far as i know with the last accounting it sti]l had hundreds and hunderds of millions left in it...

but they (big corporations) have been for this for years and are glad we are all getting stabbed in the back...i blame the douch bag in the WH and the big corporate AH’s who are both taking advantage of this crap to pee on all of us now standing line in some death panel line...

look at Germandy in the run up to WWII...all of the corporations got in line with the facists then as they are doing the same thing now


38 posted on 10/26/2013 1:41:44 PM PDT by ldish (Have had enough...you??????)
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To: ldish

“no one cares anymore.”

__

I agree. I worked pre-divestiture and post-divestiture for one of the regional telephone companies. It was like a switch was flicked in 1984-——the employees, and even the customers no longer mattered.

My son now has 25 years service in management for one of the regionals. Every day he is waiting for the axe to fall.

.


39 posted on 10/26/2013 2:03:47 PM PDT by Mears (Liberalism is the art of being easily offended.)
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To: ldish

I’m in the same boat as you-retired AT&T management 30 years, $100 a month for supplemental insurance. I received the notice you are referring to this week and it referenced some changes coming down, but it also referred to comparable costs and benefits as now exist. I didn’t see anything that referred to $950-1250 in increased costs per month. Have you read your publication carefully? Freep mail me if you want to discuss.


40 posted on 10/26/2013 2:09:03 PM PDT by shortstop (It's too bad that stupidity isn't painful)
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To: sr4402

They knew the launch would fail, but it was more important to get it implemented and some on the program, and committed before the truth came out. When people lose their insurance, they don’t have any alternative but Obamacare.


41 posted on 10/26/2013 2:10:05 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: shortstop
no they didn't mention the $960-$1250...they didn't mention anything except that beginning in jan 2015 we would have to find our own ins...that they weren't going to be in the loop...they are self insured and only pay admn cost to uhc to administer their pan for us now and whatever they ins company agrees they owe...then at&t pays that amount in addition to the admn fee to unc...in each of the last 4 or 5 years they had already begun to cut back and nitpick things they once upon a time paid for

on my own i went looking for comparable plan (similar deducts and out of pockets...those are the costs that i am finding to replace but at even those costs the plans offer less

42 posted on 10/26/2013 2:18:31 PM PDT by ldish (Have had enough...you??????)
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To: ldish

Are you on Medicare or is this your entire health insurance package?


43 posted on 10/26/2013 2:24:22 PM PDT by shortstop (It's too bad that stupidity isn't painful)
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To: shortstop
for me am eligible for medicare starting next year but it didn't mention that being a factor
44 posted on 10/26/2013 2:29:49 PM PDT by ldish (Have had enough...you??????)
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To: Toespi
oh big companies love getting out of their deal with retirees...good excuse...setup by all...why do you think RINO reps so quiet about defunding...i hate nobama and demos...but the really large corporations are paying them tons of mu-la probably out of our retirement health care accounts to get them a good excuse to drop us all and pocket the money that was in place to fund our health care...no way in hell all of the retirees in different places and at different points in our lives can we replicate or match the deal they had with uhc on our own regardless of the “competition of the so called insurance market places through the usa in different states...criminals all...but especially on the AH in the WH and goons......am I angry...YOU ARE DAMN RIGHT!!!!
45 posted on 10/26/2013 2:39:49 PM PDT by ldish (Have had enough...you??????)
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To: Raebie
"You can keep your insurance, if you like it...
...and if it's ACA compliant."


46 posted on 10/26/2013 2:42:32 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: ldish

Medicare for you will make a huge difference in what you will pay for healthcare costs if Obama doesn’t muck that up too. You will be left with the costs for a supplemental policy. Medicare pays for 80% of healthcare costs after deductible, your supplemental pays 10% after deductible and you pay the last 10%. Sounds to me, after reading AT&T literature, they’ll give us some supplementals to choose from at that time. If you hit Medicare before 2015, you’ll be fine.


47 posted on 10/26/2013 2:47:42 PM PDT by shortstop (It's too bad that stupidity isn't painful)
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To: shortstop
Medicare pays for 80% of healthcare costs after deductible, your supplemental pays 10% after deductible and you pay the last 10%.

My supplemental pays the last 20%. I believe most of them do.

48 posted on 10/26/2013 2:50:27 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: shortstop

what if medicare wont pay for certain procedures that one is required to take as a result of an illness and the supp did? now ya gotta find another supp who doesnt want to...so the fee is jacked up???


49 posted on 10/26/2013 3:06:43 PM PDT by ldish (Have had enough...you??????)
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To: Grampa Dave
The ObozoScare site seems to be working fine for previous Medicaid and new Medicaid patients. The ones who are the bottom feeders and will not have to pay for the plan.

Did you come up with that or are you quoting someone?

If it's your statement, you really suck.

Sounds like you're saying my 65 years old wife is a "bottom feeder" after working her whole life and paying into the system, and now has to pay over $100.00 a month now to keep her medicaid just to keep what she already paid for.

Is that what YOU are saying?

FMCDH(BITS)

50 posted on 10/26/2013 3:30:07 PM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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