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To: dennisw

Point conceded. Either way, there seems to be little concept of loyalty to a nation-state, or anything beyond the level of clan/tribe. They pay lip-service to Islam being one nation, but we’ve seen how well that works. Add in that Arab culture is an “honor” culture as opposed to a “guilt” culture, and things look very dark indeed.


9 posted on 10/26/2013 2:00:42 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Islam was born the harshest dessert and does best in the dessert and arid regions of the world. Back in Mohammed’s time the clan was all important for survival of the fittest clan in such a harsh water deprived environment. You stuck together or died.

Inbreeding cements clan loyalties. Also keeps dowry wealth within the clan. So there is a perverse incentive for inbreeding among the Arabs going way back. They are wealthier now so the desert does not look as harsh as it used to be...But the old time ways carry over.

Afghanistan is an arid nation. Clans are very strong there. It is hard to form a modern democratic nation when clans and tribes and extended families are so strong


10 posted on 10/26/2013 7:15:14 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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