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A black box in your car? Some see a source of tax revenue
Los Angeles Times ^ | October 26, 2013 | By Evan Halper

Posted on 10/27/2013 5:45:21 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

WASHINGTON — As America's road planners struggle to find the cash to mend a crumbling highway system, many are beginning to see a solution in a little black box that fits neatly by the dashboard of your car.

The devices, which track every mile a motorist drives and transmit that information to bureaucrats, are at the center of a controversial attempt in Washington and state planning offices to overhaul the outdated system for funding America's major roads.

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1 posted on 10/27/2013 5:45:21 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It’s really getting closer to the time for pitchforks and torches.


2 posted on 10/27/2013 5:47:45 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Under the Democrats; the Lincoln Memorial is closed; but the southern border is open)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Just a waypoint on the road to total monitoring of every citizen, with the endpoint being embedded microchips for all.


3 posted on 10/27/2013 5:48:07 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I live off HWY-20 in Northern Florida. It was virtually perfect with no patches or holes for its entire length. This year they tore up the entire thing and repaved it. Now, it is “improved” in that it looks newer. But there was nothing, and I mean NOTHING, wrong with it before. It had another 30 years left. Why did they repave it? Well, I’m guessing it was because money was available from the federal government to do so. I really don’t know of any roads bad enough to require repaving. Why are they busy doing it? I suspect it’s all these shovel ready jobs they were anxious to spend money on. Are there states that actually need the money and the repaving? Undoubtedly. I’d say almost any place up north.

If they have the money they will spend the money. It’s not about helping the public it’s about crony capitalism. Reagan was right. The public knows how to spend its own money. The government merely wastes it.


4 posted on 10/27/2013 5:51:19 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Bastards


5 posted on 10/27/2013 5:51:26 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Obama: A dark spot in this country's history.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

What’s wrong with building a tamper-proof odometer and making tampering with one a RICO-eligible felony with a minimum 10-year prison term?


6 posted on 10/27/2013 5:52:26 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“a little black box that fits neatly by the dashboard of your car.”
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Oh, isn’t that so clever of the Commie overlords.
God only knows what it will be transmitting...maybe your conversations, too?


7 posted on 10/27/2013 5:52:30 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
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doubleplusgood idea.....

/sarc off

8 posted on 10/27/2013 6:19:01 AM PDT by eeriegeno (<p>)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Another source of revenue... how wonderful. At some point people will realize how right Laffer was.


9 posted on 10/27/2013 6:19:29 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

A little black box... With a little bigger grounded metal box over the transmitting part of the little black box.


10 posted on 10/27/2013 6:20:35 AM PDT by CPOSharky (Democrats must love the poor, they just keep making more and more of them.)
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To: Zhang Fei

“What’s wrong with building a tamper-proof odometer and making tampering with one a RICO-eligible felony with a minimum 10-year prison term?”

Well, I’m no fan of these little black boxes, GPS tracking, etc. however, right now hybrids and ev’s are not paying their fair share of road taxes which are paid at the pump on a per gallon purchased basis. Farmers and ranchers have dealt with this for decades by keeping logs of their use of non-road fuel. But, I doubt that you could trust the general public to be so trustworthy.


11 posted on 10/27/2013 6:20:40 AM PDT by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

There will be a many year period where we will pay this electronic road tax, tax at the pump and toll fees.


12 posted on 10/27/2013 6:21:10 AM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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How about they just go to hell for spending all the taxes intended for roads on pensions, salary increases, bonuses and gimme programs for their voter base. Then they can stick the black boxes up their arses.


13 posted on 10/27/2013 6:23:25 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (On the evening of 10/16/13, the ailing republican party breathed its last breath.)
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To: Gen.Blather

There’s a stretch of highway (I-435) that runs through Johnson County Kansas that is constantly being torn up and rebuilt but it is constantly in need of repair. It does have very heavy truck traffic. In some places the road is so bad it is a threat to safety. Many accidents in what we call the Olathe triangle.


14 posted on 10/27/2013 6:32:37 AM PDT by Mercat
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To: Mercat

After you’ve had the heat on low for a period of time you’ll be able to increase the cooking temperature almost to the point of boiling. The frog at this point will be too delirious to realize that the heat is increasing and will most likely not hop out of the pan.


15 posted on 10/27/2013 6:37:41 AM PDT by Junk Silver
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Progressive in is already doing it with that thing they plug in to your cig lighter, which I use to plug in my cell phone for charging when on the go, these newer units EAT battery!


16 posted on 10/27/2013 6:39:42 AM PDT by GailA (THOSE WHO DON'T KEEP PROMISES TO THE MILITARY, WON'T KEEP THEM TO U!)
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To: Zhang Fei
What’s wrong with building a tamper-proof odometer and making tampering with one a RICO-eligible felony with a minimum 10-year prison term?

OOH, better still make it a mandatory death penalty

17 posted on 10/27/2013 6:40:39 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

What they really want to do is plant a chip in your neck that measures the air you breathe so they can tax that too.

In Maryland we pay taxes at the pump to build and maintain roads, but our Governor spends the road money on Stadiums, and casa De Maryland, and his homosexual agenda.


18 posted on 10/27/2013 6:41:34 AM PDT by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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As America's road planners struggle to find the cash to mend a crumbling highway system, many are beginning to see a solution in a little black box that fits neatly by the dashboard of your car.

There already is a mileage tax. There are federal and state taxes attached to every gallon of gas you purchase and these taxes were at the federal level and among the various states for the purpose of raising revenue for roads and highways - although it's mostly raided to redistribute to the eaters.

The black box isn't about revenue so much as it is about tracking and control.

19 posted on 10/27/2013 6:45:35 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Imagine:

There’s a country that needs to know absolutely everywhere you’ve ever driven but has no probem with you owning the guns.

How likely does that strike you? Is that plausible..?


20 posted on 10/27/2013 6:45:51 AM PDT by gaijin
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