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Rand Paul urges libertarians to vote for Cuccinelli, not Sarvis ^ | October 25, 2013 | MARKUS SCHMIDT

Posted on 10/27/2013 8:22:02 PM PDT by Maelstorm

Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., on Thursday urged Virginia Republicans supporting Robert C. Sarvis, the Libertarian candidate for governor, to come home to the GOP and vote for Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli, the party’s nominee.

“I consider myself to be a libertarian conservative, a libertarian Republican,” Paul said in a phone interview Thursday. “A lot of things (Cuccinelli) talks about are free-market, limited-government, leave-me-alone government. I think there is a lot to like there.

“What I’m excited about in Ken Cuccinelli is that he is smart, he is articulate, and he has a keen sense of justice,” Paul said. Cuccinelli’s attempt to challenge the Affordable Care Act in court was “one of the things that catapulted a nationwide debate over the constitutionality of the health care law,” he said.

Paul, a potential Republican presidential contender for 2016, will campaign with Cuccinelli in Fairfax County and Virginia Beach next week. His visit to the state comes as the attorney general faces headwinds from members of his own party who have defected to Sarvis

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2013endorsements; cuccinelli; libertarians; paul; rand; sarvis; thirdparty; va2013
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To: Maelstorm

We just gave on his website. Thanks for the information. This is the kind of person we all need to support.

We helped Gov. Walker in Wisconsin and that pushed back against the Libs. We need to do the same in Virginia !

Hope he wins!

41 posted on 10/27/2013 9:42:21 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Gene Eric
There are good reasons to deride the Libertarian Platform and the liberal degenerates that wear the veil of libertarianism, but the stock complaint against libertarians here is often baseless drivel bearing traits of the fifth column.

That is completely false, we all rightfully know that libertarianism includes the anti-conservative positions on social issues, if it didn't then there wouldn't be any need for libertarianism, it would merely be conservatism.

42 posted on 10/27/2013 9:43:42 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Democrats-"a party that since antebellum times has been bent on the dishonoring of humanity.)
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To: Maelstorm

There are few if any better republicans than Cuccinelli.

43 posted on 10/27/2013 9:54:14 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: ConservativeMind

Thanks! This is exactly the attitude we need. I also helped Walker as did Ken Cuccinelli and Scott Walker has been to Virginia helping to fundraise for Cuccinelli.

44 posted on 10/27/2013 9:57:03 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Obamacare is your healthcare on stupid.)
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To: Maelstorm

Cruz did the endorsing but not the other way around.

I would probably vote for Cuccinelli, but what will happen next. More tax hikes like the outgoing RINO dumped on Virginia. More rigged Republican presidential primaries with signature requirements and winner take all delegate allocations.

45 posted on 10/27/2013 10:00:23 PM PDT by Nextrush (BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN)
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To: Nextrush

Cuccinelli did not support the tax increase nor does he support the Medicaid expansion under Obamacare. He and Ted Cruz are on the same page but unfortunately Virginia isn’t Texas. The Rhinos in the state hate Cuccinelli with a passion. Bill Bolling who though he deserved to be next in line came out as a gun grabber and has withheld his endorsement while working behind the scenes to undermine Cuccinelli with endorsements etc. A real worm.

46 posted on 10/27/2013 10:10:57 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Obamacare is your healthcare on stupid.)
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To: JohnBrowdie

“Libertarians are going to elect another democrat. That’s all they’ ever accomplish.”


Not enough difference to worry over.

47 posted on 10/27/2013 10:34:23 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn...)
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To: Maelstorm

We shall see how this plays out...the media will have its spin but the lack of trust in the Republican label runs high.

A highway funding bill is being pushed here in PA right now that will have to be paid for with higher taxes by the GOP governor who plans to face the voters next year.

I figure he wants the funding bill now but will hold back the tax hike until after the election next year.

Its easy for Cuccinelli to say he’s against the tax hike but would he undo it as governor?

48 posted on 10/27/2013 11:38:56 PM PDT by Nextrush (BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN)
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To: Maelstorm

Good for Rand.

In response to some of the comments here:

1. KC is very conservative but to date has run what I think has been a lackluster campaign. He has allowed himself to be defined by McAwful.

2. I really don’t like this idea that any gop candidate, even KC, is somehow “owed” votes. He isn’t. Robert Sarvis has every right to run. If the gop/’rat candidates don’t get as many votes as a result then tough cookies.

3. Robert Sarvis has run a very good campaign. That’s why he is getting an unusual number of votes. And there is certainly a lot of gop/’rat campaign fatigue here. I don’t think that Robert Sarvis is necessarily drawing from KC’s numbers any more than McAwful’s. There are a lot of people who self-identify as libertarian in VA and here we have a well-spoken, talented candidate who is running a very effective campaign for it’s size.

4. Both KC and McAwful have spent an incredible amount on this campaign. I read that it was over $40 mil between the two of them. For a state of 8 mil people, of which maybe 1-2 mil will show up to vote.

5. Finally, the thing that I find most disappointing about this race is how often KC has in effect run away from himself. An example of this was when Ted Cruz came to campaign for him. KC wouldn’t even appear on stage with Ted Cruz. Even though Ted Cruz was taking time out of his day to campaign for him and endorse him. KC has a really good record as a conservative yet it seems that rather than embrace that, he has tried to distance himself from it. Which would lead anyone to question really how sincere he is about his conservative views.

Upshot for me is that I’ll be voting for E.W. Jackson. A fine and unapologetic conservative for LT Governor. I’ll also be voting for Mark Obenshain for AG. Another fine and unapologetic conservative. While I happen to be there I might or might not vote for Ken Cuccinelli.

49 posted on 10/28/2013 2:29:55 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: RKBA Democrat

you don’t know you will vote for Ken!!! Why is it better to see this Clinton hack gain anther vote and maybe won because you did not want to vote for Ken?


50 posted on 10/28/2013 4:21:21 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: vette6387

Not voting or voting for a sure loser is simply voting with the majority. Too few FReepers understand that.

51 posted on 10/28/2013 5:30:49 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: GeronL
they know they cannot expect any help from the GOPe and the Republican apparatus.

More than that. The budget situation proved that the Whigs will actively attack conservatives and work with Democrats.

What conservative in their right mind would vote for a party that attacks the very things a conservative believes?


52 posted on 10/28/2013 6:31:41 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: GeronL

Look for a teaming up of conservatives and libertarians to elect Cuccinelli.

53 posted on 10/28/2013 6:47:52 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: ansel12

Not true since “conservatism” involves quite a bit of govt largess and controls.

54 posted on 10/28/2013 7:48:28 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: RKBA Democrat

The principled vote must also account for likely consequences.

Regarding your first point, the Left is proficient at deceit, and I wouldn’t say conservatives grant permission to be defined. Conservatives don’t necessarily campaign as well as they govern, so keep that in mind when applying canon.

55 posted on 10/28/2013 8:03:49 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Bull-Pucky...Steve Daines didn’t have a serious Libertarian candidate and he won with a conservative message. Less government, more jobs was his message and it sold.

Rehberg and the republican governor candidate whose name I can’t recall we’re dry gulched by national democrats who put a lot of money into the Libertarian candidates to siphon about 5% of the vote from the republicans. Rehberg should have stayed in the house and let Daines beat Montana’s fat senator.

Granted, when republicans act conservative and are aggressively so, they do better than democratic-lite. However, there was a lot of democratic subterfuge regarding the libertarians in the 2012 elections in Montana.

There was also a lot of both parties suck in the decision process to vote libertarian.

56 posted on 10/28/2013 8:06:48 AM PDT by montomike (Politics should be about service and not a lucrative, money-making opportunity!)
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To: Maelstorm

Cuccinelli is solid enough that I’d vote for him. That being said, if this was John McCain or Lindsey Graham I’d be making a statement.

57 posted on 10/28/2013 8:11:13 AM PDT by HarleyD ( of his disciples, whom Jesus loved.)
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To: JohnBrowdie
stop enabling socialists office holders.

You mean like the current socialist RINOs that are already destroying the GOP?

the libertarians have never managed to get one of their mouth breathers elected to anything. they have managed to send any number of liberals to washington.

There are dozens of libertarian office holders at the local and state level.

strictly speaking, the libertarians barely even exist. they're like subatomic particles; you have to infer their existence from the behavior of other things -- like everyone's healthcare getting taken away from them.

Yeah, they barely exist until they "cause" one of your RINOs to lose a close race, then suddenly their a force to be reckoned with.

58 posted on 10/28/2013 8:27:31 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2016)
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To: Maelstorm

Don’t the Libertarians just take liberal votes away from the Democrats?

59 posted on 10/28/2013 12:05:22 PM PDT by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

—But my point is, is that the Republican brand is completely tarnished. KC should do a better job at getting these voters without compromising his principles. TM has painted him as a bible-thumping so-con.—

Anyone who isn’t a bible-thumping conservative gets excoriated on this site as a liberal. But bible-thumping conservatives don’t win many elections anymore.

Anyone who paints libertarians as liberals is a fool. Neither the Dems nor the GOP seem to give a tinker’s cuss about liberty anymore.

60 posted on 10/28/2013 12:16:03 PM PDT by JoeTheGeorgian
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