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George Will: ‘Of course I want Obamacare to fail’
Daily Caller ^ | October 27, 2013 | Jeff Poor

Posted on 10/28/2013 1:07:49 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Washington Post columnist George Will said he wants Obamacare to fail, pointing the impossibility of controlling one-sixth of the economy with central planning after his co-panelist Juan Williams declared Republicans did not want the law to work.

Williams accused Will and his other co-panelists on this weekend’s “Fox News Sunday” during the show’s online-only “Panel Plus” segment of “schadenfreude” in voicing their reactions to the failure the HealthCare.gov launch.

“[Y]ou know, I just think there is a lot of schadenfreude on the panel this morning,” Williams said. “ And people, ‘Oh yeah, you know, isn’t it terrible — oh my gosh, Obamacare is having trouble.’ Come on, Republicans don’t want this thing to work. That’s the bottom line here. That’s the reality here.”

Later, Will predicted the demise of Obamacare and said he wanted the law to fail for fear of how it will further change Washington, D.C. as the central focus of power in the United States.

“Oh, it will end,” Will said. “Because in fact what they’re trying to do is micromanage one-sixth of the American economy. What we have learned throughout the 20th century is in fact the micromanagement, central planning of complex societies doesn’t work.”

“I want to assure brother Williams that there is no schadenfreude because I’m not even pretending to be sorrowful,” Will continued. “Of course I want Obamacare to fail, because if it doesn’t fail, it will just further entangle American society with a government that is not up to this. For 100 years, Juan, the narratives of progressives from Woodrow Wilson on, is that progress will come if and only if we concentrate more and more power in Washington, more and more Washington power in the executive branch and more executive power in the hands of experts — disinterested experts such as those who designed HealthCare.gov.”

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KEYWORDS: obamacare; obamafail; schadenfreude
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1 posted on 10/28/2013 1:07:49 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

George Will is often irritating, but when he does speak sense, he’s worth listening to.


2 posted on 10/28/2013 1:10:25 AM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Juan has his face up ZERO'S but.
He is a disgrace to mankind.
3 posted on 10/28/2013 1:16:09 AM PDT by DeaconRed (We have the most corrupt administration EVER. We need leaders that will help us get rid of the scum)
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To: Ronin

If you wanted a brief two minutes of Jefferson-like analysis and observation....George Will is about the best there is in the nation today.

On occasion, he’ll even pick up baseball, and for a few minutes....you actually get some common sense and true views on the sport.

On the topic of failure for Obamacare....I don’t think we can even refer to it as a failure. It simply introduced economic reality to the American voter and consumer. If you want steaks for everyone....then the overall price of steaks will reflect that desire, and climb higher. The American voter was naive to think that prices and cost for health care would simply remain the same or even cheapen.

What happens in 2016? The economy will not only be stagnant, but also viewing a public who has $2k-to-$4k less a year to spend on themselves....spending it on health costs instead. They will desire a return to the old method. The Democratic answer will be the single-payer solution. The issue is that they bought a dead horse strategy in 2009....why repeat that same trend?


4 posted on 10/28/2013 1:21:56 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Damn right I want it to fail and everything else Progressive. It has no place in our republic.


5 posted on 10/28/2013 1:35:37 AM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I love it when someone with a little sense slaps that little weasel Williams down.

Juan is just a stupid guy with a marxist education.


6 posted on 10/28/2013 1:46:35 AM PDT by Bullish (The only real solution is to abolish liberal democrats forever)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

With all the shorthair singing he’s been getting from conservatives lately, George had to go to the High Council on Liberal Talking Points and Media Matters to get special dispensation as a token conservative to say this to protect his title among those imbeciles out there that still think he is conservative.


7 posted on 10/28/2013 2:32:55 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Juan Williams is no different than the typical Negro who shuts their mind to what is right and only think of his racial make-up.

He wants so badly for Obama to be a black hero, because blacks so badly need a hero, but he has hitched his wagon to the wrong star and cannot admit it because that would be saying that a black failed.

Juan is a bigot. A friendly acting bigot, but a bigot.


8 posted on 10/28/2013 2:43:49 AM PDT by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: DeaconRed

I haven’t watched the news since 11/7/12 bit always perceived Juan as the “token idiot” to defend liberals.


9 posted on 10/28/2013 2:56:29 AM PDT by personalaccts (Is George W going to protect the border?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I love it when Juan gets a size 12 planted right in the qwack of his patootle.


10 posted on 10/28/2013 3:05:54 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: personalaccts
"I haven’t watched the news since 11/7/12 bit always perceived Juan as the “token idiot” to defend liberals."

You haven't missed anything, except a lot of lies. You are correct about Juan.

11 posted on 10/28/2013 3:08:22 AM PDT by DeaconRed (We have the most corrupt administration EVER. We need leaders that will help us get rid of the scum)
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To: personalaccts

That was the last time I watched the news too.


12 posted on 10/28/2013 3:16:48 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Venturer

An example of the decline of America,paying this black huckster 2 million dollars a year to spew racist,anti American Bilge


13 posted on 10/28/2013 3:26:29 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Well, finally George abandoned his typically mealy mouthing and directly addressed the issue of creeping socialism in America. George did not sound like David Brooks, Kathleen Parker, and Charles Krauthammer. He sounded like a conservative. Again.


14 posted on 10/28/2013 3:36:17 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"There is no schadenfreude here because I not pretending to be sorrowful" Will said

I love it when George Will says something with just the right amount of humor-sarcasm to get the point across. It's time we stopped pandering. Obamacare is a bad plan, supervised by someone probably intellectually incapable of identifing flawed things, and pursued because nobody will disagree with Obama.

EVERY DAY that mandate is in place does more harm to the economy. It punishes responsible people who've had insurance policies of their choice for years, but now won't have that if they get sick. It's costing people jobs. It's decimating their budgets. That stupid beyond belief medical device tax destroys US jobs at a time when US jobs should be the top priority.

I don't see how the dems and the RINOs who see profit in this mess can with any conscience at all not condemn this destruction of medical care and the middle class.

15 posted on 10/28/2013 3:50:33 AM PDT by grania
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To: Ronin

I agree George Will has always annoyed me, but the last week or so he has said things that were point on. I heard him speaking on the online panel to Brett Baire and he was talking about Chicago Politics that governs the WH. He was spot on in his description of the thuggery.


16 posted on 10/28/2013 3:53:30 AM PDT by marygam (I have extra ducktape for anyone who needs to wrap their head.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

My ears perk up and I listen when one of three “Pundits” talk. They are Charles Krauthamer, George Will and Brit Hume. I realize they all work for FOX now, but maybe that’s because FOX is smarter than all the other networks.


17 posted on 10/28/2013 3:56:21 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Candor7

Cut Juan some slack. He gets paid the big bucks by Fox to promote the Democrat talking points. I am not sure he really believes much of what he says.


18 posted on 10/28/2013 3:58:57 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
...after his co-panelist Juan Williams declared Republicans did not want the law to work.

Grow up, Juan--wishful thinking has no impact on whether something will work or not. Republicans cannot make Obamacare fail, and Democrats cannot make it work by emotionally investing in their position.

19 posted on 10/28/2013 4:00:55 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Good for George Will. I am sick and tired of hearing this talking point “the Republicans want Obamacare to fail.” So we’re supposed to help out with the implementation of Socialized Central Planning just because the Democrats barely managed to pass it a few years ago without a single one of our votes?

Why aren’t we countering with the now crystal-clear fact that the Democrats want America to fail?


20 posted on 10/28/2013 4:04:41 AM PDT by Junk Silver
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To: DeaconRed

“Juan has his face up ZERO’S but.”

He’s been particularly irritating as a replacement for Beckel, on the The Five. I just turn off Fox when I see Juanny or Colmes.


21 posted on 10/28/2013 4:07:17 AM PDT by duckman (I'm part of the group pulling the wagon!)
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To: personalaccts
always perceived Juan as the “token idiot” to defend liberals.

He's the black version of Alan Colmes.

22 posted on 10/28/2013 4:16:07 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I want all leftist policies to fail...what reasonable person doesn’t? Are the lefties trying to say they don’t want conservative policies to fail? Why should they lie? They obviously don’t want conservative policies to succeed and make it very clear how much they detest anything that takes power away from Big Government. Once again, conservatives are honest and lib/leftists dissemble.


23 posted on 10/28/2013 4:24:16 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: Junk Silver

“...crystal-clear fact that the Democrats want America to fail!”

You are exactly right. I’ll be using this one.

Also, these dunces have such short memories. Most recently - how much did they want George W Bush to fail, especially in Iraq?

Keep fighting back!


24 posted on 10/28/2013 4:24:19 AM PDT by Susquehanna Patriot (U Think Leftist/Liberals Still Believe That Dissent = Highest Form of Patriotism?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Oh BS george... you wanted obama from the start... you met with him when he was first elected and several times since then... the last time you tried to keep a secret... just two weeks ago. STFU and retire... your turd has ruined the party punch.


25 posted on 10/28/2013 4:27:50 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: SC_Pete

george is under fire for his activities directly connected to obama so he has to play uber conservative to try to regain his creds... he will never be able to with me. I do not believe anyone who meets secretly with obama and tries to avoid that truth when confronted wit it.


26 posted on 10/28/2013 4:30:09 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: DeaconRed

Juan has trouble holding a job. There must be something inherently wrong. Either he lacks the ability to consistently produce a written piece or he just can’t get along.

His jobs with various publications since he has been on the Fox panel is uncountable. Fox is one gig where he has remained because he can consistently produce and argue the talking point. The ability is Obamalike. Take what is written by others and spew it out.


28 posted on 10/28/2013 4:38:13 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
George Will sometimes reminds me of a beaten puppy. He has spend so much time on ABC, outnumbered six to one, that he speaks a short conservative statement, and then sits back waiting for the others all to beat him. He's unaccustomed to making a brilliant statement, and then getting nods of approval.

This limits his effectiveness. He speaks only partial thoughts, and then sits back, silent, waiting for the beating.

29 posted on 10/28/2013 4:40:37 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Yeah, I remember now.


30 posted on 10/28/2013 4:42:26 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Another example of the wisdom of NPR over FOX!


31 posted on 10/28/2013 5:17:15 AM PDT by leprechaun9
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To: SC_Pete

It is easy to forget when they start agreeing with us... but we must weigh a man’s integrity against what has come before. People can change... those like george will can change at will... no pun intended.


32 posted on 10/28/2013 5:19:27 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Only problem is it’s NOT failing.

America FAILS to see what it was intended for.

Cloward-Piven would be proud.


33 posted on 10/28/2013 5:26:14 AM PDT by Safrguns (PM me if you like to play Minecraft!)
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To: TigersEye
Damn right I want it to fail and everything else Progressive. It has no place in our republic.

The dirty little secret is that democrats want it to fail too, after the 2014 elections. By then, the private health insurance market will be so severely damaged, and most companies won't be providing health insurance to their employees, so the democrats will then propose the single payer system. Government to the rescue.

34 posted on 10/28/2013 5:31:51 AM PDT by Go Gordon (Barack McGreevey Obama)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Why should anyone listen to someone spouting talking points they don’t believe? You’d give someone some slack for being a lying mouthpiece of an ideology just because he is paid for it?

Juan Williams has this nice guy demeanor that makes anything he says palatable to the LIV. If he doesn’t believe it himself, that is just more egregious insult added to the injury.

One more reason I don’t have subscription TV and haven’t paid attention to these pundit shows for 5 years. FNC being clever about their presentation doesn’t equate to that presentation being worthwhile.


35 posted on 10/28/2013 5:48:51 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Cut Juan some slack.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Sure, instead of size 12, make it a size 14.


36 posted on 10/28/2013 6:04:09 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Hey Juan. Get a clue. Opposing the party in office and their policies is what the opposition party does by definition.

I don’t see the need to help with the heavy lifting to save these socialist liberals when their big government programs, like ObamaCare, don’t work the way they envisioned they would from their ivory towers. They made their beds themselves without the support of any Republicans in Congress or the majority of the American people. They can now lie in their own mess and take full responsibility for its failure.

Of course, we all know they will do neither. They will not take responsibility or blame, preferring to do what they usually do when they can’t argue successfully on the merits of an issue. They will blame the Republicans for it’s failure and spin the failure as a success, since they know their lackey media types will back them up in these assertions. In Obama’s socialist/communist world, up is down, black is white, wrong is right and bad is good.

So yes, I oppose ObamaCare and hope it goes down in a ball of flames, burning the liberals who foisted this mess on the American people in the process.


37 posted on 10/28/2013 6:11:28 AM PDT by HotHunt
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

George Will just wrote an op ed on why Cuccinelli was a bad choice for gov for VA....
Really? Cuccinelli is a True Conservative who walks the walk, not just talks the talk...McAwful personifies every aspect of limousine, liberal, insider, tax and spenders...yet Will thinks he’s a better choice???
Will is a snake in the grass, DC cocktail party circuit poseur and needs to not be read, quoted, watched and needs to be shown the door....


38 posted on 10/28/2013 6:39:59 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: LibLieSlayer

Good for you!!! I totally agree....


39 posted on 10/28/2013 6:43:15 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: matginzac

Thank you!


40 posted on 10/28/2013 6:52:51 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: bert
"Juan has trouble holding a job."

He can always go to work for ZERO.
With any luck ZERO won't have anything to offer as he will be dressed in Orange.

41 posted on 10/28/2013 7:06:24 AM PDT by DeaconRed (We have the most corrupt administration EVER. We need leaders that will help us get rid of the scum)
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To: Junk Silver
Why aren’t we countering with the now crystal-clear fact that the Democrats want America to fail?

Damn good question. And there are plenty of examples.

One could start by parading out the check-in agent in Maine who didn't want to let two of the 9-11 hijackers board the flight there because she had a reasonable suspicion, but was overruled by her supervisor because they didn't want to profile.

As I recall, these two connected up with their buddies in Boston who crashed that west coast bound flight into the World Trade Center.

42 posted on 10/28/2013 7:57:25 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy; All

Now that 300 million Americans are being secretly spied on by the Rouge Marxist Obamanation Administration, there are thus 300 million Americans that do not trust Obama.

Is this massive distrust enough for the US Congress to hire a Special Prosecutor to investigate this National Security Spy Apparatus?

What more does it take for our gullible, lethargic RINOs to draw up the Articles of Impeachment for Obama?

Do they not realize that the RINOs are in control of the US House of Representatives?

They have the Partisan DUTY to be a “Check and Balance” by use of their duty to Impeach a Constitutionally offending White House Resident.

Now that 70 Million French Citizens, and like number of German, and Spanish citizens have been spied on by the Rogue Marxist Obamanation Administration, there are well over 100 million European Citizens who do not trust Obama.

As head of the Rogue Marxist Obamanation Administration, this loss of trust is the sole responsibility of B. Hussein Obama.

Should Impeachment Proceedings begin in the US Congress to Impeach for Dereliction of Duty “B. Hussein Obama,” aka Barry Soetoro, a legal citizen of the Sovereign Nation of Indonesia?

If the American Citizens do not trust Obama, and our main European Allies do not trust Obama, then what more is the US Congress waiting for before starting Obama Impeachment Proceedings?

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And now for the REAL Enemy: The Democrats:

How sweet it would be to tie, in the minds of the Low Information Voter, the Democrats who voted for Nationalizing 1/6 th of the US Economy to this Democrat Cash Cow, Mandatory Insurance Tax Law!

The Leftstream Media currently controls the minds of the Low Information Voter by controlling the powerful COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION POLLING CORPORATION, commonly known as COP-O-PC, pronounced “Cop O’PC.”

Right now Obama can do anything that he wants to do because of the “White Guilt” of the Leftstream Media, and a “White Guilt” mentality of jelly-spined Congressional Democrat’s Republicans.

Thus, all of the focus is directed to the incompetence of the staff that Obama has hired to protect him from knowing anything about the signature Law that he is so proud of.

It is the perfect “I know nothing” do-loop designed for gullible, jelly-spined, Red Ink, Congressional, Democrat’s Republicans such as Susan Collins, McCain, Graham, McConnell, Cornyn, Boehner, Cantor, Ryan, and New York’s Peter King.

Link Democrats to Obama’care,’ and maybe the Low Information voter will remember that it was the Democrats that wrote it, voted for it, and then it was Democrat Reid shut down the US Federal Government in 2013 to keep it from being defunded by cowardly, Cave-In, Congressional RINOs.

The Democrats have wanted this ultimate-control, Marxist Law for nearly 100 years, and now that the Democrats have rammed it down our throats we Conservatives must see to it that the Democrats are clearly held responsible for the great harm that this failed Law has already done to America.


43 posted on 10/28/2013 8:07:51 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Marxist Obama'care' Insurance violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Ronin

He learned from Rush when Obama entered office - remember that

‘Don’t you want Obama to “succeed?”’

NO - because it involves government take-overs, bailouts, socialist corruption and trampling on the Constitution.

Say it LOUD


44 posted on 10/28/2013 11:40:14 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

republicans don’t want obamacare to work. harry reid wanted us to fail militarily in iraq, which presumed the deaths of thousands of american service men and women.

you tell me who is going to rot in hell.


45 posted on 10/28/2013 12:20:06 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: personalaccts

Calling JuanW “token” might be insulting wooden nickels. Every show has an ingnoramus installed to inhibit the learning of truth/facts/actual circumstance. God bless DVR & TIVO because I rarely watch these shows live and can loop forward when a blowhard pipes up. There must be a media registry containing the names of appropriate dumbasses and they are obligated, somehow, to place at least one of these beltwayblowholes into every program. It’s like Dilbert’s “department of no information”.


46 posted on 10/28/2013 12:30:57 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Go Gordon

And?


47 posted on 10/28/2013 1:17:50 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
“I want to assure brother Williams...

Brother?

Brother??

BROTHER??


48 posted on 10/28/2013 2:47:55 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (What do we want? Time travel. When do we want it? It's irrelevant.)
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To: Venturer

If they so badly need a hero why do they reject any black man who acts like a real hero? With heroes like Obama they don’t need any antiheroes.


49 posted on 10/29/2013 8:45:39 AM PDT by RipSawyer (The TREE currently falling on you actually IS worse than a Bush.)
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To: RipSawyer

You don’t understand the theory of not being “black” enough.

Any man who acts like a hero, has morals and a brain is not black enough. He is an Uncle Tom.


50 posted on 10/29/2013 9:01:04 AM PDT by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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