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***[YOU MUST SEE THIS PHOTO]*** Suspect in Northern Calif. standoff surrenders
KNOX ^ | Oct 26, 2013

Posted on 10/28/2013 8:59:38 AM PDT by Lazamataz

Edited on 10/28/2013 9:45:58 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Lazamataz

At least the douche bag clearly has his finger off of the trigger, but seriously, can you be more menacing?


51 posted on 10/28/2013 9:16:18 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Lazamataz

You’re not really in control until you’ve scared the sh!t out of the average innocent citizen.


52 posted on 10/28/2013 9:16:21 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Rocky

Basic firearms safety. Don’t “muzzle” anything you don’t intend to destroy.


53 posted on 10/28/2013 9:16:23 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Lazamataz

“He’s sure not looking belligerent, there is no anger in his face.”

Maybe not now. Kinda looks like he might be a d!ck.

I don’t know whether the photographer had a motive of his own or came upon the scene a minute late or hates guns, or what.

I try not to jump to conclusions


54 posted on 10/28/2013 9:17:39 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: exPBRrat

Thank you.


55 posted on 10/28/2013 9:17:49 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Lazamataz

I just can’t imagine why anyone would hate pigs.


56 posted on 10/28/2013 9:17:57 AM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: tgusa

Now that’s weird. I got right to it. Maybe your computer just didn’t like the site.


57 posted on 10/28/2013 9:18:50 AM PDT by rktman (Inergalactic background checks? King hussein you're first up.)
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To: Lazamataz

Thanks. I’d shoot that guy myself.


58 posted on 10/28/2013 9:19:24 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: exPBRrat; Lazamataz

Fascism under Bill and Hillary


59 posted on 10/28/2013 9:19:36 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: Lazamataz

And in the rear...?

It’s Pat! And, it’s armed.

The driver looks rather relaxed, so perhaps 1) the photo/angle is deceptive (firearms safety violations notwithstanding), or 2) this kind of LEO king-of-the-beasts behavior is so common and normalized that he’s used to it.

We thought the Elian Gonzales pics were bad, but at least he and the adult protecting him looked genuinely horrified. Today? Meh, another day another twitchy “officer of the law.”


60 posted on 10/28/2013 9:19:42 AM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: nuconvert
Not jumping to conclusions???!? DAMMIT MAN, it's RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU!

UNLESS THIS MAN IS PRESENTLY UNDER ARREST FOR A FELONY, THERE IS ONE-HUNDRED-PERCENT *NO REASON* TO SPOT HIS NOSE WITH THE MUZZLE OF AN AR15/M16. PERIOD!

Do not defend the indefensible.

61 posted on 10/28/2013 9:20:25 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: nuconvert

So, “being a dick” means that the officer is justified sticking the muzzle of an AR15 in his face?


62 posted on 10/28/2013 9:21:13 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Lazamataz

What the heck?

That is so un necessary and should be a violation of department policy.

You never point a gun at anyone unless you are going to shoot them.


63 posted on 10/28/2013 9:22:07 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: rktman

Practice runs in full operation.


64 posted on 10/28/2013 9:22:38 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

Wow, I just posted a comment about that photo, 6 seconds after yours.


65 posted on 10/28/2013 9:22:38 AM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: MrB

Nope. It means there’s a possibility that in the few minutes before this photo was taken, the d!ck was mouthing off and not cooperating.


66 posted on 10/28/2013 9:23:24 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: MrB

I was an MP with the New York Guard. We interfaced with cops, even got some cop training, a very abbreviated course, of course, but one of the primary things I came away with is UNLESS YOU ARE ARRESTING FOR A FELONY, or UNLESS YOU KNOW THE SUSPECT IS ARMED AND HOSTILE, you do not cover a person with your muzzle. EVER. It was, in itself, a criminal charge to do so.


67 posted on 10/28/2013 9:24:15 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Pharmboy

“The guy went into cool mode...he hit the right facial tone as an innocent guy with a cop’s rifle in his face.”

The proper tone is something like “Get that F’in gun out of my face.”


68 posted on 10/28/2013 9:25:15 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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To: Lazamataz

“UNLESS THIS MAN IS PRESENTLY UNDER ARREST FOR A FELONY, THERE IS ONE-HUNDRED-PERCENT *NO REASON* TO SPOT HIS NOSE WITH THE MUZZLE OF AN AR15/M16.”

“a federal immigration officer was shot and three local police officers were wounded” . Sounds like a pretty good reason, if the guy in the car was being uncooperative.


69 posted on 10/28/2013 9:25:40 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert
I try not to jump to conclusions

I try to see what's in front of me.

What do you see here?

Do you see any firearms safety violations?

Do you see the clear and immediate threat of deadly force?

The peasant looks bored, not properly cowered, should he be shot for failure to fear?

Do you see excessive force?

What exactly do you see in the photo that tells you this is appropriate police/innocent citizen interaction?

Would you support the alleged CHP officer if he shot the guy in the face for driving during a manhunt?

If not, why not?

Eight questions. I'd be astonished if you answer any three.

70 posted on 10/28/2013 9:26:29 AM PDT by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: nuconvert

You do NOT point a firearm at a person for mouthing off and not cooperating. You point a firearm at someone under felony arrest, or if you see a weapon and the person is hostile, or physically approaches you in a menacing manner (which is sometimes a felony anyways, against a cop). You can arrest someone for a misdemeanor if they mouth off. No need for the East Germany treatment!!!!


71 posted on 10/28/2013 9:26:43 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: nuconvert
I'm done here. You are lost.

Best of luck in the New Soviet Amerika.

72 posted on 10/28/2013 9:27:44 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: nuconvert

I’m still seeing that it’s OK to muzzle the guy for being beligerent.

Seriously?


73 posted on 10/28/2013 9:28:23 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: nuconvert
Nope. It means there’s a possibility that in the few minutes before this photo was taken, the d!ck was mouthing off and not cooperating.

Ah! Of course! That would fully justify shooting is sorry a$$ in the face.

74 posted on 10/28/2013 9:29:18 AM PDT by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: Lazamataz

They assassinated the poor woman in D.C. in a small car — and she was unarmed. Looks like they’re practicing for the next assassination.


75 posted on 10/28/2013 9:29:31 AM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: PhiloBedo
"I really thought the CHP had a higher level of training."

Ahhh, seen one two many episodes of CHIPS......

76 posted on 10/28/2013 9:30:23 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: MrB
Don't even bother bro. Some people are more shear-able than others.

Hell, he's gonna be *happy* to be in that neat new camp way out in the countryside, and *grateful* for his daily MRE and his 8-oz bottle of water.

77 posted on 10/28/2013 9:30:39 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Mich Patriot

“I smell strawberry”


78 posted on 10/28/2013 9:30:46 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: tgusa

Direct link to YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu3mqjHB9R8#t=13


79 posted on 10/28/2013 9:31:47 AM PDT by Stalwart
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To: Lazamataz

“You do NOT point a firearm at a person for mouthing off and not cooperating. You point a firearm at someone under felony arrest, or if you see a weapon and the person is hostile...”

They’re looking for an armed killer, not a bicycle thief. They have to assume the possibility that the person in the car IS armed.

Word to the wise: Anyone coming up on a roadblock with heavily armed cops ought to polite & cooperative.


80 posted on 10/28/2013 9:31:49 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Borax Queen

I actually give that chick in DC, being killed, a pass. She drove at the Presidential White House grounds, if I am not mistaken. That’s a kill-worthy offense. As much as I despise Obama, I still want to see him very well protected. He’s still the President.


81 posted on 10/28/2013 9:33:00 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Lazamataz

You left out the context!

“where a federal immigration officer was shot and three local police officers were wounded during a violent confrontation with a suspect “

” a Friday night shootout between law enforcement agents and a wanted parolee left six officers injured.

Roseville police spokesman Lt. Cal Walstad said that one Roseville police officer with a jaw wound and a federal immigration agent shot in the leg remain hospitalized Saturday in serious condition. Four other Roseville officers injured by shrapnel were treated and released.

The suspect in the violent confrontation that ended after an hours-long standoff is a validated gang member with a criminal record that includes assault and carjacking. “


82 posted on 10/28/2013 9:33:23 AM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Lazamataz

Wow. I think there was a thread here a few months ago, in my lovely State of Colorado, about a LEO putting a shotgun or rifle in the face of a 10 year old kid.


83 posted on 10/28/2013 9:33:44 AM PDT by real saxophonist (Rock, paper, scissors, GUN. I win.)
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To: Lazamataz
A federal immigration agent attempted to chase Duran on foot, but was shot in the leg.

Duran must be one of those warm and fuzzy
California ILLEGAL ALIENS.

Gov. Moonbeam thinks they are just peaceful neighbors.


84 posted on 10/28/2013 9:34:09 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: Lazamataz

First thing I would say to that donut muncher is “get that thing out of my face”.


85 posted on 10/28/2013 9:34:12 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: nuconvert

Get the highest calorie MRE’s bro, and be willing to trade the seasonings for more caloric-content side dishes.


86 posted on 10/28/2013 9:34:22 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: rktman

“Folks in the Slidell/New Orleans area take heed.”

If I remember correctly, Eden Isles is upper-middle class and upper-income people. However, the stretch between the five-mile bridge and the I-10 bridge adjacent to the lake and across the bayou from Eden Isles is lower class apartments and condos. I do not know but perhaps the whole of Eden Isles has gone down the tubes after Katrina.

I am not condoning gun boats patrolling aquatic neighborhoods but if they are there because of the LIVs then it may be justified. There were and probably still are drugs in the area. I have seen Coast Guard boats towing captured drug boats in that area.


87 posted on 10/28/2013 9:34:54 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: Stalwart

Now that is just creepy!


88 posted on 10/28/2013 9:34:56 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 ('Hey citizen, what's in YOUR closet?')
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To: Admin Moderator

Admin, I do see you removed the photo on copyright grounds. Can you put a link to it, at least, on the original post? Thanks!

http://media.knoxnews.com/media/img/photos/2013/10/26/media_eb93858a64d248b79d76a00dc5e639b9_t607.jpg


89 posted on 10/28/2013 9:35:59 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Lazamataz
W T F?

The citizen is a male white and the Gestapo cop is pointing the rifle at his head!

Here is the perp: Not even close.

90 posted on 10/28/2013 9:36:16 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Little Pig

I thought it was John Candy in the background.


91 posted on 10/28/2013 9:36:23 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Lazamataz; All

You know, my grandfather told me once when someone points a gun at you...

“Knock the sh!t out of them, then ask them if its loaded!”

Funny how stuff like this happens in places like that...

I do not believe it would go this far in Texas...

Just my opinion...


92 posted on 10/28/2013 9:36:59 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: Lazamataz

Outrageous. Drawing a pistol on everybody that pulls up is pretty bad, pointing a full-blown rifle in innocent peoples’ faces is an outrage.


93 posted on 10/28/2013 9:37:28 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (We're At That Awkward Stage: It's too late to vote them out, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: Lazamataz

The cops had a gunman loose who had already shot officers so I’m not surprised they checked cars with a weapon drawn.

Around the time cell phones were making a dent in communication, I was driving in the county I lived in then, and there was a roadblock. The officer had his gun out when he came to my window. There was a criminal on the loose somewhere in that area, and he needed to check my car to be sure the man was not hiding in my car. He would have been pretty dumb if he came to the car with no weapon in his hand and the guy had been in my car. That is asking to be shot if he had no gun out.

A few miles past the roadblock, I saw a man without a shirt on walking next to the tree line off the road. That made no sense to me why his shirt was off and walking next to the trees. I used my cell phone and called 911 to report where this man was and I for sure kept driving to get out of that area.

Cops get killed all the time by walking up to a driver’s window when their guns in the holster. If it’s a speeding problem, they aren’t going to have their gun out, but in this present case today, they knew they had an armed man on the loose. I would expect the rifle to be out.


94 posted on 10/28/2013 9:38:10 AM PDT by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Cyber Liberty

It’s East Germany s**t. I never thought I’d see the day.


95 posted on 10/28/2013 9:38:32 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: exPBRrat

Well, soldiers are trained in how to handle these kinds of weapons. Cops, not so much.


96 posted on 10/28/2013 9:41:03 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Marcella
Nope. Won't fly. See the poster above who states EVEN SOLDIERS remain at low-ready with in-custody or out-of-custody probable HOSTILES.

Basic rule of firearms: DO NOT POINT UNLESS YOU ARE IN THE PROCESS OF KILLING. Low-ready is fine. Not a muzzle-cover.

97 posted on 10/28/2013 9:41:08 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: rktman

Textron-TMLS is based in Slidell and they manufactures land and marine systems.
http://www.textronmarineandland.com/


98 posted on 10/28/2013 9:41:15 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: MrB

They’re looking for an armed killer involved in a shootout that wounded several others ..... I can understand sticking a gun in this guy’s face if he’s refusing to answer questions &/or show the cop his ID.


99 posted on 10/28/2013 9:41:40 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: cripplecreek

“The basic lack of gun safety alone is astounding.”

It appears to me his finger is not on the trigger but in the usual safety position.


100 posted on 10/28/2013 9:41:48 AM PDT by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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