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Valentines? Notes on the Pussification of America
Fred on Everything ^ | 10 27 2013 | Fred Reed

Posted on 10/28/2013 10:47:25 AM PDT by Dick Bachert

It is time to get women out of the schooling of boys. It is way past time. Women in our feminized classrooms are consigning generations of our sons to years of misery and diminished futures. The evidence is everywhere. Few dare notice it.

The feminization is real. More than seventy-five percent of teachers are women; in New York state, over ninety percent of elementary school teachers are women; in the US, over seventy percent of psychologists are women, with (sez me) the rest being doubtful. This is feminization with fangs.

I have just read Back to Normal: Why Ordinary Childhood Behavior Is Mistaken for ADHD, Bipolar Disorder, and Autism Spectrum Disorder, by a psychologist, Enrico Gnaulati, who works with children alleged to have psychological problems in school, usually meaning boys. I decline to recommend it because of its psychobabble, its tendency to discover the obvious at great length, and its Genderallly Correct pronouns, which will grate on the literate. (I mean constructions resembling “If a student comes in, tell him or her that he or she should put his or her books in his or her locker”) However, a serious interest in the subject justifies slogging through the prose. (The statistics above are from the book.)

The relevent content is that women are making school hell for boys, that they have turned normal boyish behavior, such as enjoyment of rough-housing, into psychiatric “personality disorders.” They are doping boys up, forcing them into behavior utterly alien to them, and sending them to psychiatrists if they don´t conform to standards of behavior suited to girls. The result is that boy children hate school and do poorly (despite, as Gnaulati, says, having higher IQs). This is no secret for anyone paying attention, but Gnaulati makes it explicit.

As a galling example he cites one Robert, an adolescent responding badly to classes and therefore suspected by his teacher of having a “personality disorder.” From the book:

“She required all forty students in the class to design Valentine’s Day cards for each other. She was emphatic about wanting them personalized. Names had to be spelled correctly and compliments written up genuinely.”

Valentines? This was eight-grade English. Students, who by then once knew grammar cold, should be reading literature or learning to write coherently. In my eighth-grade class, we read Julius Caesar: “I want the men around me to be fat, healthy-looking men who sleep at night.” Valentines? Compliments?

This, the author assures the reader, did not take place in an asylum for the mildly retarded, but in one of the ten best high-schools in California. What must the rest be like?

Of course Robert was having trouble putting up with the girly drivel, this feminized ooze, devoid of academic content. ”Oooooh! Let´s have a warm, emotional bonding experience.”

This is why women should not be allowed within fifty feet of a school where boys are taught. A boy, especially a bright one, will want to drop out of school through the nearest window, run screaming to a recruiting office for the French Foreign Legion, anything to get away from inane, vapid, and insubstantial feel-good compulsory niceness inflicted by some low-wattage ed-school grad.

Get these ditz-rabbits away from our sons. Let us have separate schools for the sexes, with each being taught by teachers of the same sex. I do not presume to tell women what they should teach girls—astrophysics, valentine design with sincere compliments, whatever they like. Just stay away from the boys.

The thrust of current social propaganda is that the sexes are identical in all important respects. They are not. The differences are great. It is time we stopped pretending otherwise.

First: By their nature, females are far more interested in social relationships than in academic substance. If you are a man, ask yourself how often you have serious intellectual discussions of politics, science, history, or society with women as compared to men. Seldom. Degrees and exceptions, yes. Stiil, seldom.

Second: Women are totalitarian. Men are happy to let boys be boys and girls be girls. Women want all children to be girls. In school this means emphasizing diligence—neat homework done on time, no matter how silly or academically vacuous—over performance, meaning material learned. Women favor docility, orderliness, cooperation in groups, not making waves, niceness and comity. For boys this is asphyxiating.

If women wanted to start a bar for women only, men would not care. If men want a private club in which to enjoy male company, women go explode in fury. Totalitarian.

In common with the keepers of the Russian gulag, women are more than willing to drug little boys into submission. There is a Stalinist mercilessness in this, a complete lack of understanding of, or interest in, what boys are. (“Ve haff vays of making you….”)

Third: Women prefer security to freedom, males freedom to security. In politics, this has ominous implications for civil liberties. In the schools this means that wrestling and dodge ball are violence, that tag might lead to a fall and scraped knees, that a little boy who draws a soldier with a rifle is a dangerous psychopath in the making. This is hysteria.

(Stray thought: If I wanted to create a murderous psycho, I would Ritalinate him into a little speed freak, repress his every instinct, and humiliate him by having the police drag him away. It would work like a charm. In his trial, his defense would be justifiable sociopathy.)

Fourth: “Therapy.” This disguised witchcraft is very much a subset of the female fascination with emotional relations. It allows them to talk endlessly about their feelings. Men would rather be crucified. Thus everything becomes a “disorder.” Among these absurdities are things ilke Intermittent Explosive Disorder (appropriately, IED), and Temper Irregulation Disorder. These disorders have only been discovered since women took over the schools.

The list could go on. Boys, like men, are competitive, physically and intellectually, delighted to play hours of intensely competitive pick-up basketball. Women in the schools prefer a cooperative group game led by a caring adult. What a horror.

Even the ways in which men get along with each other differ sharply from the female approach. (Thus the desire for venues for men only.) For example, when I once broke a leg in a sky-diving accident, the women in the news room were sympathetic and concerned. At a Special Forces party I attended, there was laughter and sarcasm. “Goddam dumbass Marine can´t even do a PLF right. (parachute landing fall). Hey, let´s break his other leg.” Translated from the male, this meant (a) that they accepted me as one of them, and (b) that to them a broken leg was not a tragedy but an inconvenience. Which it is.

Fifth: In the United States, women simply dislike men. Saying this causes eruptions of denials. If you believe these, I´d like you to meet my friend Daisy Lou the Tooth Fairy. Check the ranting of feminists, the endless portrayal on television of men as fools and swine, the punitive political correctness and the silly anti-rape fantasies on campus.

In the schools this hostility takes the form of the passive aggression behind the predatory niceness. “We´re boring him to death, keeping him miseable, and sending him for psychiatric reprogramming because we care so much about him.” Uh, yeah.

Outside of the US, fewer women buy this. My stepdaughter Natalia, Mexican, is working on a degree in clinical psychology, and sees students—read “boys”—sent to her by teachers to determine whether they have ADHD. “They don´t have ADHS,” she says. “They´re bored.”

Finally: Women display a pedestrian practicality alien to males. If a woman needs to use a computer, she will learn to do it, and do it well. She won´t learn assembly-language programming for the pure joy of it. She can drive a car perfectly well, but has no notion of what a cam lobe is or the difference between disk and drum brakes. This is why men invent things, and women seldom do.

Boys schools, male teachers.


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The femanazi WAR ON BOYS has to stop.
1 posted on 10/28/2013 10:47:25 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Dick Bachert

Recommended Reading:
http://www.amazon.com/The-War-Against-Boys-Misguided/dp/1451644183/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1382982749&sr=8-1&keywords=the+war+against+boys


2 posted on 10/28/2013 10:52:43 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Dick Bachert

“The femanazi WAR ON BOYS has to stop.”

How, exactly, would you stop it? A male friend who just retired as a school teacher was the only male in the school. He got an entire room full of personality and discipline problems. This led to low reviews as the teachers are judged by the performance of their students. But he got virtually all of the problem children and they were all male.


3 posted on 10/28/2013 10:53:18 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Dick Bachert

I am lost at the first phrase. I taught high school, boys and girls. And more than American lit and classic comp and lit, I taught them about pertinent details required for formation.

By the end of the year, I had all the boys reading, writing, and sharing analytical ideas. They were also holding the door, opening windows, jumping for anything I dropped, and not cursing, not talking crudely.

Occasionally, a couple of them would come in wearing aviators, and acting as bodyguards. I find ninth grade boys to be the MOST amusing characters, but I didn’t ever tell them that, and covered my face when they cracked me up, if it had nothing to do with the lesson.

When they came in pushing and shoving, (intimidating me with their size, not directly) I suggested boxing after school, they said (sarcastically) Oh, that’s dangerous!

They didn’t realize I was Irish. Bah!

I went to their football, baseball and basketball games.

Likewise, the girls, I told to stop shunning gentlemanly behavior, they are awfully socialized.

Anyone who thinks the parents aren’t in on this, can reexamine.

It is not the problem of women being the teachers. Nuns raised us, and our boys are now men. Heterosexual, fathers, family men.

In my religion, there is a little known tenet, and that is that it is up to the mothers to raise gentlemen.

It is the 5 year old boy who rushes to open the door for his mother and sisters and is most neglected when discouraged from doing so. Extrapolate form there.

The problem is Mothers not wanting to be feminine and not wanting their sons to grow up to be men.

I substituted for a woman whose class of boys, whom I had later in the day, in her class, acted differently. They would not do anything. They would not pick up their papers to hand them in or even pass them up.

Women dote and they treat boys like babies.

But I know that boys want to be the ones to erase the board, clean it on fridays, go to get equipment, deliver messages, etc.

The men teachers I worked with would not do anything out of their way to help the boys behave in a gentlemanly fashion. they don’t know there’s a need or a problem.

Their wives... I don’t know.

I never ever thought of wearing pants to school. and never in any way immodest nor non feminine.

THis guy is off.

Likewis,.


4 posted on 10/28/2013 11:08:39 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Dick Bachert

Real men would never have used a title like that.

Conservatives shouldn’t have read such language.


5 posted on 10/28/2013 11:10:31 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Democrats-"a party that since antebellum times has been bent on the dishonoring of humanity.)
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To: Dick Bachert

You’d be both amazed and saddened by how many women are Boy Scout leaders. Both paid and volunteer.


6 posted on 10/28/2013 11:12:22 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Dick Bachert

I stopped reading at the first paragraph.

Most of The Greatest Generation had women teachers.

Didn’t seem to damage them.

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7 posted on 10/28/2013 11:12:55 AM PDT by Mears (Liberalism is the art of being easily offended.)
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To: Dick Bachert
Women want people to be happy, a transient emotion based on feelings. Men want people to be joyful, an emotion based on deep personal satisfaction that transcends to up-and-down emotions of the moment. That's what Beethoven wrote the “Ode to Joy”, not the Ode to Happiness.
8 posted on 10/28/2013 11:14:05 AM PDT by quadrant (1o)
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To: Dick Bachert

The very male and elitist oriented british schools led to a flood of homosexual communists in all parts of the State.

Britain never really got over the damage.


9 posted on 10/28/2013 11:19:06 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com/2013/10/04/nicolae-hussein-obama/)
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To: Dick Bachert

In grades one through twelve I had one male teacher.


10 posted on 10/28/2013 11:21:08 AM PDT by Retired Chemist
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To: Dick Bachert
The feminization is real. More than seventy-five percent of teachers are women; in New York state, over ninety percent of elementary school teachers are women

The author is trying to make this sound like some new-fangled feminist innovation. I am willing to bet that women were the overwhelming majority of elementary school teachers throughout the 20th Century.

11 posted on 10/28/2013 11:21:35 AM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Last Dakotan
You’d be both amazed and saddened by how many women are Boy Scout leaders.

I sense a broad brush.

My wife was Cub Scout leader. She helped out with the Pack when all her boys went on to Boy Scouts.
90% of the boys in her Cub Scout den went on to become Eagle Scouts, including my son.
One attended West Point and is now working at the Pentagon.

I'm sure there are some women in Scouting who were shunned by the shrews in the Girl Scout organization who would act as this author suggests with regard to young men...but they would be the minority I'll wager.

12 posted on 10/28/2013 11:21:47 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (So Obama "inherited" a mess? Firemen "inherit" messes too. Ever see one put gasoline on it?)
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To: Dick Bachert
Two of the most fulfilling, encouraging, magnificent teachers I had in grade school were women. I'm 61 now and I can still remember Miss (yes, we called her that most un-PC title) Hoyman and Mrs. Augustine. God bless their memories.

What is different is this incredibly malevolent therapeutic tendency that is not a function of the sex of the perpetrator, and the prevalence of a social model that insists on classifying normal behavior as pathology, to be treated with outrageously overprescribed and powerful drugs. Either of the two aforementioned teachers would have thrashed the hell - I mean physically - out of anyone presuming to treat her students' behavior with drugs. And the parents would have backed them, too. That, alas, has also changed.

13 posted on 10/28/2013 11:32:58 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Mears
Most of The Greatest Generation had women teachers.

You are so right.

I didn't have a single male teacher up through the seventh grade. That was in the 1930's.

We had no known cases of ADHD or other alphabetized disorders. The teachers kept discipline in their classes. Cross the teacher and you went to the principal's office, with its threat of a wooden paddle applied vigorously to your backside.

The male teachers I had after 7th grade included the football coach, a manual training teacher, a mechanical drawing teacher, and the band director. You didn't cross any of them either, as I found out to my sorrow.

Bullying among students we had aplenty. You just had to learn to stand up for yourself.

14 posted on 10/28/2013 11:35:21 AM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: Dick Bachert

The theory, as Fred mentioned, among many feminist-oriented teachers is that boys and girls are psychologically i.e. mentally the same. The long and short of it is: we’re not. When I was in grade school, I could barely stand the boredom. In the eighth grade the nun made me write a note to my parents that I wasn’t paying attention in class. I wasn’t. Guilty as charged. Did I care? Not much. The only thing I liked about grade school was recess and the school library. I’m positive if they’d had Ritalin in those days (50’s and 60s), they would have drugged me. And a lot of other boys.


15 posted on 10/28/2013 11:36:33 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: Ole Okie

I applaud every syllable of your post. Having gender specific courses taught by male and female teachers was the way for me too in middle school and high school and that was only 10 years ago.


16 posted on 10/28/2013 11:47:07 AM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: Mears

It’s not female teachers, it’s the kind of female teachers. I never had a male teacher in grade school except for religion class...I went to a Catholic school. But most of the teachers were nuns or hard-headed lay teachers. While they didn’t brook nonsense from miscreants, they understood the typical boy mental process. Most of today’s teachers, male and female, are drilled in feminist-oriented, political correctness. Times and the culture have changed from a half century ago. For the worse.


17 posted on 10/28/2013 11:51:35 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: Dick Bachert

Link doesn’t work

Fixed link:
http://fredoneverything.net/Valentines1.shtml


18 posted on 10/28/2013 11:53:56 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Dick Bachert

bkmk


19 posted on 10/28/2013 11:55:53 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Ole Okie

That is true, But what’s overlooked is that that was BEFORE the rise of radical feminism and the near total take over of the teacher’s unions and schools of education by the Marxists!

I’m 74 and the teachers in MY schools were about evenly split between men and women. And, yes, some of my favorites were the women.


20 posted on 10/28/2013 12:12:51 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: stanne
I never ever thought of wearing pants to school. and never in any way immodest nor non feminine.

THis guy is off.


And here we go with one of the most common logical fallacies out there: your anecdote about one person (yourself) does not invalidate the existence of overall trends. In other words, if 99% of female teachers are as Fred describes, then it is ridiculous to point to the 1% and base your analysis on that. Female teachers ARE emasculating boys and punishing boyish behavior, and the one in a thousand who isn't doesn't change that.
21 posted on 10/28/2013 12:18:37 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Ole Okie

” That was in the 1930’s.”

I started school in the 30s too. They were hardly the good old days,but kids knew how to have no-cost fun.

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22 posted on 10/28/2013 12:24:41 PM PDT by Mears (Liberalism is the art of being easily offended.)
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To: fr_freak

Female teachers are not doing this. Men are as culpable. Tell us where men are working against this. What men, former Boy Scouts, Eagle Scouts, allowed to happen to the BSA is an example

Men who claim being bullied by women, is my point

It is feminists that are doing this. Men and women

Boys are very disserved in this situation. A dishonest bigoted thinking is not helpful to them

The problem is feminism

Meant to say I always wore a dress or skirt. I look like a girl.


23 posted on 10/28/2013 12:30:06 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Dick Bachert

This guy is on target. The hipster, metrosexual boys of today are like yesterdays hippies on steroids. Disgusting! We need to get back to brave men and strong families. There’s nothing wrong with boys!


24 posted on 10/28/2013 12:30:35 PM PDT by formosa
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To: driftless2

“Times and the culture have changed from a half century ago. For the worse.”

You are right. The sixties opened my eyes to conservatism and I never looked back.

A couple of years ago at a family dinner I mentioned that I didn’t like women baseball sportscasters/interviewers because it is a very male environment. My daughters and daughters-in-law looked at me as if I was insane. Needless to say I quickly changed the subject—and I’m a woman.

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25 posted on 10/28/2013 12:31:38 PM PDT by Mears (Liberalism is the art of being easily offended.)
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To: stanne
Good God, after reading the rest of these comments, I almost feel bad for singling you out regarding the fallacy of anecdotal evidence. Apparently, we've got plenty of Freepers willing to dispute reality.

I've noticed that there is, indeed, a generation gap when it comes to understanding US cultural trends here on FR. Those who are of the Boomer generation or older often seem to be unable to grasp how fundamentally things have changed since their youth. I'm a Gen-Xer, so when I read a story like this article it makes perfect sense, because I've seen enough examples of this sort of behavior from teachers that it's almost like a "water is wet" sort of story.

Leftism and feminism have been dominant in academia at least since the 1980s. However, those generations before mine seem bewildered as to why a blogger like Fred would make such a claim regarding female teachers, and I can only assume that it is because they had the pleasure of being taught by female teachers who had not, as yet, been completely immersed in feminism and leftism. I don't know exactly when the dividing line occurred, but the world pre-feminism and the world post-feminism are fundamentally different. In a way, Gen-Xers and those after grew up in almost an entirely different country than the previous generations, with entirely different cultural world views (among the ruling class).

Freepers then need to understand that the world of school teachers now bears little to no resemblance to the world of school teachers then, and the same goes with many other things. Citing the cool teachers you had in 1965 (as an example) has no bearing, whatsoever, to what sort of people you'll have teaching now.
26 posted on 10/28/2013 12:36:18 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: fr_freak

And it is senseless to say that 40 years of women promoting a feminist agenda is the example of women throughout history of raising boys in this way. An article like this would not have been necessary years ago because this was only an issue of late

Women have been raising men since God created them to do so. He gave His Son to a woman to raise. That’s the design

Read any successful, ethical man’s bio and you will find a strong woman/mother highlighted. Reagan, Band of Brothers figures,

Never domineering mothers. Nor absentee, as with BO

Women are simply not wired to be domineering. The present culture is so


27 posted on 10/28/2013 12:40:15 PM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

I don’t think he is off. A liberal teacher, male or female is a much different person than a conservative teacher. Most conservative women expect proper behavior from boys when they are in her presence. They don’t tolerate cursing or rudeness towards other females. I have seen women chew out men for inappropriate behavior and I’ve seen them ignore it when it was the better choice. They wouldn’t have had any difficulty sorting out a classroom of misbehaving children in a week or two.


28 posted on 10/28/2013 12:45:53 PM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- <<http://vimeo.com/63749370)
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To: Mears

I was born in ‘44 and most of my teachers were women, that is true. They were a different kind from today’s women though, they thought girls should be girls and boys should be boys. We had pot bellied stoves in the classrooms where I attended the first seven years and sometimes the teacher would send one of the boys to fetch coal or to start a fire if the janitor had not already done so. There was a big fat pine log out back and an axe where we sometimes would cut splinters to start the coal fire. This was in grade school! I can still recall the fourth grade teacher asking, “Could one of you boys loan me your knife so I can open this package?” The girls would have been highly insulted if someone suggested they could do anything a boy could do.

There were often fights on the school ground, I was even in a few myself, the teachers didn’t seem to think it was anything terrible, they discouraged it and sometimes a boy got a spanking for fighting but no one thought they needed to call the cops or anything. Almost every single boy carried a knife to school but no one ever got cut with one even if there was a fight.

In the first three grades some even carried cap pistols to school to play with on the playground, this did incur some restrictions though, the teachers would not allow using actual caps in them because it was too noisy.

That was of course before the entire world went stark raving mad.


29 posted on 10/28/2013 12:54:37 PM PDT by RipSawyer (The TREE currently falling on you actually IS worse than a Bush.)
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To: stanne
And it is senseless to say that 40 years of women promoting a feminist agenda is the example of women throughout history of raising boys in this way. An article like this would not have been necessary years ago because this was only an issue of late

I didn't see anywhere in his article where Fred claimed it was women "throughout history" (nor am I). He was merely stating that a lop-sided female presence in schooling is a big part of the problem NOW. The unstated implication is that feminism is the root problem, but what a lot of people don't seem to realize is that feminism is now the DOMINANT operating philosophy in our institutions, ESPECIALLY among (younger) women. Women born around, say, 1970 or later, are completely indoctrinated with feminism, with uncommon exceptions (such as, hopefully, Freeper women, but I've seen evidence of that not always being true). So, wherever you have an over-representation of women, you are going to have a somewhat slavish devotion to feminist ideals, and feminist ideals HATE masculinity.

Undoubtedly, there are a lot of sissified men out there who buy into feminism as much as the ladies, but the difference between even a sissified man and a woman is that a man won't see boyish behavior as a disorder that needs medication. Men expect boys to act like boys, while many modern women expect boys to act like girls. That seemed to be Fred's point. You can hope to de-program the feminism out of all the women tomorrow (ain't gonna happen), or you can, in the near-term, have male teachers handle the boys.
30 posted on 10/28/2013 12:59:18 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: fr_freak

Let me put it this way, I teach classic literature and have a strong biology background. I know the stories of the Bible and some mythology

Human nature does not change. I was close to my family members born in the early 20th century, who watched this from the model a to the Challenger and read the business pages into their nineties, living in their own homes.

People do not fundamentally change. The Constitution will not change. Wimps may outnumber non wimps and allow all these changes in this country, but that country will not succeed, unless they can come up with a group like the founders, it would be one guy’s whims of the rules of the day

I cant speak to your accusations of everyone on the thread, but i know about the culture, and i accept its changes, but i do not necessarily approve, nor surrender to a notion of inevitability.

Teaching high school to kids hungry for truth and the natural order of things
Acutely aware of hypocrisy and not invested in the culture as dictated but driven by their own desires will clue anyone in who is willing to pay attention

The truth is that establishment feminism is a huge lie and it will eventually crash like an Obamacare website at some point

It’s also true that there’s no guarantee that western civilization has to survive, but that the lies under which it allows itself to live will not survive at one point


31 posted on 10/28/2013 1:00:29 PM PDT by stanne
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To: fr_freak

No. He didnt say women throughout history. He should have, then he’d remember this is a trend an unwise ill advised trend of feminism that, because of its failure toward men, will not last, so all women should not be thrown out of education. Their ideas of feminism should be.


32 posted on 10/28/2013 1:03:54 PM PDT by stanne
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To: B4Ranch

Sorry, his first sentence staes the opposite of what you’re saying

And my other point was not about conservative v liberal women it was feminine v feminist


33 posted on 10/28/2013 1:14:53 PM PDT by stanne
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To: RipSawyer

“In the first three grades some even carried cap pistols to school to play with on the playground, this did incur some restrictions though, the teachers would not allow using actual caps in them because it was too noisy.”


Do you remember sling-shots?. They could be brutal yet I don’t recall any serious injuries from them.

Men were men,women were women,and kids were allowed to run free and learn,on their own,how rough life could be.

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34 posted on 10/28/2013 1:17:30 PM PDT by Mears (Liberalism is the art of being easily offended.)
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To: stanne
It is feminists that are doing this. Men and women

Thank you. And thanks for your previous post.

There are good male and female role models, and there are horrible male and female role models.

I would disagree with Fred, the author of the article, in that only men can teach boys. These days, too many "men" are faggots and predatory; too many are brainless jocks; too many are liberal. None of those are any better for educating young men than the hostile lesbian feminists.

And contrary to popular myth, competitive sports have in recent decades created the worst character traits imaginable among boys.

35 posted on 10/28/2013 1:32:00 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: meadsjn

Teachers and coaches are not involved in their formation

They teach them a subject and move on.

Wrongo


36 posted on 10/28/2013 1:34:29 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Mears

There was magic in discovering the raw power of striking an entire roll of caps with a hammer, and total bliss hitting the entire box of caps with a single blow. It wasn’t all that easy to get all five rolls of caps to go off at once. I think there were 5 rolls of caps to a box. I’m talking about taking the rolls of caps out of the box when going for the whole enchilada. I can almost hear the temporarily deafening blast and smell the pungent odor of the explosions, as I sit here at home recalling the fond memories of an unencumbered non PC childhood.

Remember the plastic rockets that you filled with water and then pumped up with air, then fired skyward? They were so efficient that even though the thought may have crossed one’s mind to aim them at someone else, you wouldn’t dare do it for fear of seriously hurting them.


37 posted on 10/28/2013 1:36:14 PM PDT by freepersup (Patrolling the waters off Free Republic one dhow at a time.)
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To: meadsjn

Women have a lot of feminine power. As girls and turbo when they gain the trust of the teens patience, though. It takes kids a while

Boys need to know first that the teacher will/could never bring herself to use her power to emasculate or embarrass; then, when she proves, by action, that she is interested in their success and future even when they appear to be self destructive, and she has control and peace and the admiration of her peers.

Easy.


38 posted on 10/28/2013 1:41:57 PM PDT by stanne
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To: freepersup

The caps bring back memories,especially on the Fourth of July.

I don’t remember the rockets but I do remember snow balls that were placed quickly under the faucet and then allowed to freeze. The boys threw them at cars and trollies. Not really too smart but that’s the way it was.

Again,no injuries but lots of pi**** off drivers.

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39 posted on 10/28/2013 1:43:56 PM PDT by Mears (Liberalism is the art of being easily offended.)
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To: Mears

We used to make our own slingshots, cut a y shaped branch and whittle it and use a piece of an old inner tube which everyone had in those days. We had plenty of small rocks to use for ammo. We also made the other kind as “Brother Dave” Gardner described in a comedy album about Little David and Goliath. He folded a blue suede tennis shoe tongue, attached two lines thereunto and searched diligently in the roundabout thereof for a smooth flat river rock. We used to actually use the tongue from a worn out work shoe with a couple of strings attached. We never learned to be accurate with one but you could throw a rock a phenomenal distance with enough speed to kill a steer if you could hit him in the head with it.


40 posted on 10/28/2013 1:52:24 PM PDT by RipSawyer (The TREE currently falling on you actually IS worse than a Bush.)
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To: Mears

Kids played outside from sun up to sun down, except for the times that had to be devoted to chores. Just using the word chores sounds practically outdated. Kids threw about anything they could that wasn’t tied down at each other, and yes at cars too. I’m guilty of taking a couple of the old screw in street lights out with a rock or two. Apples, tomatoes, snowballs, chestnuts, a few of the rougher kids even engaged in limited rock fights.

I was born in 57... I can remember going to Chicago, just so we could see a color TV at my uncle’s house where we would watch The Wonderful World of Disney on Sunday evenings, and Flipper too. Even the NBC peacock unfolding it’s colored tail feathers was a bit of a spectacle for a time. Wow.


41 posted on 10/28/2013 1:59:58 PM PDT by freepersup (Patrolling the waters off Free Republic one dhow at a time.)
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To: Mears

Hah! They FOUGHT for them.


42 posted on 10/28/2013 2:00:41 PM PDT by stanne
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To: quadrant

OOh. Very interesting


43 posted on 10/28/2013 2:01:42 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Of course they were.


44 posted on 10/28/2013 2:02:41 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Billthedrill

I used my teachers as role models. Nuns. They raised boys to be men. I edited out the unnecessary embarrassments, and used what worked. And I used knowledge of men’s thinking for this.

Presto.

People overreact and throw everything out, instead of using what worked and getting rid of what didn’t.

Feminism is not the answer to boys’ bad behavior. Nor are drugs.

By the way, women teachers are on drugs at an outrageous rate, at the moment.

Alcohol, antidepressants, etc, as these are more accepted than they were in former times.

Birth control pills are mood and behavior altering, and when people tune in to the sensible notion that hormones, as in the pill, alter ones’ thinking and behavior, it’ll be worse than cigarettes. Hospitals, thankfully, have stopped putting them into the water supply and have designated waste receptacles (for all drugs)


45 posted on 10/28/2013 2:11:39 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Ole Okie

Then, you had a principal, a strong person, who would back up the teacher and whom the parents would support.

I’ve sent kids to the principal and had them bribe (with their parents over and above tuition money) the asst principal into tearing up the documentation.

The parents support the kid. They HAVE to get into a good college.

Ok. But they need a moral formation or we are going to have worse problems.


46 posted on 10/28/2013 2:16:08 PM PDT by stanne
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To: formosa

I guess my teaching model starts with the foundation that there is nothing wrong with boys. God created them. I think they’re wonderful

I will say, I don’t think I ever witnessed it in my group, but the nuns were quite tough on them for their not being able to sit still for so long.

They are physical and have trouble in the sit down and be still all day model.

emasculating is something else all together.

But the dads would never have put up with it, same as they wouldn’t allow their daughters to dress in public, or private, immodestly, as they do now.

So there’s another situation that has nothing to do with woman teachers


47 posted on 10/28/2013 2:20:28 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Mears

WE didn’t allow parents at our after school activities. At the pond, it was kids. Dads were allowed on Saturdays, and then only if there was a preschooler needing a skating lesson.

Bullying happened, it was not good. It was often countered with success, but not by parents.


48 posted on 10/28/2013 2:24:04 PM PDT by stanne
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To: fr_freak

“Undoubtedly, there are a lot of sissified men out there who buy into feminism as much as the ladies, “

This is a way for males to evade their traditional responsibilities.


49 posted on 10/28/2013 3:18:26 PM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: TalBlack
“Undoubtedly, there are a lot of sissified men out there who buy into feminism as much as the ladies, “

This is a way for males to evade their traditional responsibilities.


It appears to me that the men who buy into feminism are just weak-minded men, men with little character, who lack the strength to stand up to and lead women, so they kowtow and follow behind instead. Unfortunately, there are always men like this, but in a strong society, like ours used to be, men like this aren't taken seriously and rarely have power. Now that women have been handed so much power, these weak men are also getting a chance to screw things up. For example, one of the reasons I despise Obama is because he is obviously such a weak, limp-wristed sissy. I have no doubt Michelle could take him 10/10 in a fight. A weak man like that has no business being in any position of power.
50 posted on 10/28/2013 4:39:56 PM PDT by fr_freak
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