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Health agency chief refuses to disclose ObamaCare enrollment numbers
Fox News ^ | 10/29/2013 | staff

Posted on 10/29/2013 11:37:11 AM PDT by safetysign

The head of the agency responsible for overseeing the troubled HealthCare.gov repeatedly refused to disclose how many people have enrolled in ObamaCare -- during a hearing where she did not deny that officials have that information.

Marilyn Tavenner, head of the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, testified Tuesday before the House Ways and Means Committee. At the top of the hearing, she apologized for the failures of the main ObamaCare website and vowed to fix them.

But, raising more questions about the administration's transparency on the project, she declined to cite enrollment numbers. She did not claim, as Health Secretary Kathleen Sebelius recently did, that officials simply do not have those numbers -- rather, she said a "decision" was made to release them in mid-November.

"We made the decision that we were not releasing the numbers until mid-November," she said.

Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Calif., asked again whether she had any idea what the numbers are.

Her answer was the same.

"I'll take that as you don't want to answer the question," Nunes said.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: barackruptingbastard; barry; bungle; dogeatdog; enrollment; goofythegolfer; maybealittleblow; maybealottagolf; obamacare; obamacareenrollment; obamacarerollout; rico
Strap some legirons on this b*tch and see if a night in the tombs will loosen up her tongue.
1 posted on 10/29/2013 11:37:11 AM PDT by safetysign
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To: safetysign

Well !if they’re not willing to release that data about the enrollment.You can guarantee that the data is NO good.

Saying that I hope people are not that stupid to put personal info into. A system filled with security holes.

If they are that stupid they may learn to regret giving away their info.


2 posted on 10/29/2013 11:42:18 AM PDT by puppypusher
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To: safetysign

I thought that I was watching a SNL skit this morning.


3 posted on 10/29/2013 11:43:32 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Have you had your ObamaCare Marketplace shopping experience today?)
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To: safetysign

Why am I not entitled to know how many people have complied with a law? Also, why would I not be entitled to know the average age, sex, income, education, and composite health picture of applicants for insurance under the ACA?


4 posted on 10/29/2013 11:44:40 AM PDT by July4
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To: safetysign
When are the republicans going to man-up and get contempt citations going?

This is got to be the 100th time the Regime has given them the finger in sworn testimony.

5 posted on 10/29/2013 11:45:08 AM PDT by AU72
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To: safetysign

They are trying to figure out how to use ,” Saved or Created “ in the enrollment numbers


6 posted on 10/29/2013 11:47:28 AM PDT by molson209 (Hillary Clinton)
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To: safetysign
"That information won't be available until mid-November."

DRINK!!

7 posted on 10/29/2013 11:48:48 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Don't twerk me, Bro!)
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To: safetysign; All
"Health agency chief refuses to
disclose ObamaCare enrollment numbers"


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8 posted on 10/29/2013 11:50:43 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: safetysign
THIS IS A REAL QUESTION: Is there now any reason to carry health insurance if you're healthy?

Each of my middle-aged children could be socking away approx. $12,000 a year if they could stop paying health insurance premiums and just sign up for ObamaCare if they fall ill.

9 posted on 10/29/2013 11:52:49 AM PDT by July4
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To: safetysign
We just have to wait until November 1, and then we'll have one more lie to add to the list:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/360575/carney-skirts-question-about-enrollment-numbers-andrew-johnson

October 7, 2013

Jay Carney told reporters that the White House still doesn’t know the number of enrollees in the Obamacare marketplace exchanges after going live almost a week ago, and that they shouldn’t expect the information for about a month.

“When it comes to enrollment data — I want to be clear about this — we will release data on regular monthly intervals,” Carney said, which is the frequency in which Massachusetts and Medicare Part D release information. “This is an aggregation process, and we’re not going to release data on an hourly, daily, or weekly basis.”

When pressed by reporters about how the administration could know the number of online visitors to the websites but not the number of those who have enrolled, Carney said the administration used the former to explain why the Healthcare.gov’s many glitches in the wake of last week’s rollout.

10 posted on 10/29/2013 11:59:36 AM PDT by grundle
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To: puppypusher

“Well !if they’re not willing to release that data about the enrollment.You can guarantee that the data is NO good...”

Bingo. If they were really rolling in new enrollees they would crowing infinitum, posting numbers, thumping their chests, etc.

They ain’t. And the reason why is real easy to figure out.


11 posted on 10/29/2013 12:08:39 PM PDT by FAA
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To: safetysign

They could get these answers and the answers to ALL of the questions in all of the scandals swirling around obunghole... and boner has the power... it is called a SELECT COMMITTEE. That is why none of the questions will ever be answered.


12 posted on 10/29/2013 12:09:56 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: July4

“just sign up for ObamaCare if they fall ill.”

Good point. The whole rationale is universal health care for all. So if you choose to pay the penalty and forego coverage, then get ill, seems like they still have to treat you. If they don’t, their whole purpose is a sham.


13 posted on 10/29/2013 12:10:37 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (Seen any scandal headlines lately?)
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To: FAA

They will just report the totality of numbers anyway without separating them out.....# of regular enrollees, # of subsidized enrollees, # of new Medicaid enrollees.
That’s what they did in Kentucky when Obama called to congratulate the governor on 32k enrollees.....cept 82% of them were new Medicaid.
The numbers will be indecipherable.


14 posted on 10/29/2013 12:16:34 PM PDT by sheana
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Im sorry I missed the SKIT......


15 posted on 10/29/2013 12:24:08 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/)
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To: sheana

The “penalty” can be taken only out of a Tax Refund from what I understand.

those choosing to “pay” the penalty....wont unless thy have a tax refund.

November 1 should be big fun


16 posted on 10/29/2013 12:27:46 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/)
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To: safetysign
There's something troublesome about that particular question of numbers, and I suspect it's not because they are embarrassingly low. It's because they have no way of knowing. I suspect these clowns spent billions of dollars for an out-date, off-the-shelf program that cannot provide statistical data. They simply threw money at the project, and walked away. A single source, no-bid contract for a turnkey project. No list of deliverables, no contract schedules, no periodic reviews. They have no idea how many have enrolled, and are now frantically engaged in attempting to mine the data.
17 posted on 10/29/2013 12:29:23 PM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: puppypusher
Well !if they’re not willing to release that data about the enrollment.You can guarantee that the data is NO good.

That is most likely true but they are taking a wait and see attitude with the numbers. They will find out what the prevailing number will be estimated by mid Nov by the media and other sycophants and come in slightly higher.

18 posted on 10/29/2013 12:46:04 PM PDT by frogjerk (We are conservatives. Not libertarians, not "fiscal conservatives", not moderates)
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To: grundle

“We made the decision that we were not releasing the numbers until mid-November,” she said.

Obviously they have no intention of releasing data on November 1. But — mid-November is AFTER the election. Hmm...


19 posted on 10/29/2013 12:48:26 PM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: Chewbarkah

They keep pushing the date of release back. First they said once a month, implying November 1 at the latest. Now they are saying mid-Noovember. I suppose they will push that one back too.


20 posted on 10/29/2013 12:50:52 PM PDT by grundle
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To: safetysign

Actually, I honestly think they don’t know. The data coming out is so corrupt, I don’t think they can verify just WHAT they’ve got.


21 posted on 10/29/2013 1:49:36 PM PDT by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: grundle

The first insurance bills go our in December for the January enrollment.

Which genius thought the start of HOLIDAY shopping would be the best time to send out sticker shock bills?


22 posted on 10/29/2013 1:51:55 PM PDT by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: SueRae

Christmas spending might be depressed by this.


23 posted on 10/29/2013 1:52:27 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: safetysign
I guess the House Ways and Means committee is not "legitimate Congressional oversight?"

-PJ

24 posted on 10/29/2013 1:55:53 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: safetysign
Republicans were also voicing concern Tuesday about Americans being kicked off their current health plans, and newly uncovered documents that show the administration anticipated millions might lose their current coverage and be sent into different plans -- despite pledges to the contrary from the White House...I worked in a psychiatric hospital for twenty-five years - I'm used to talking with people who have their own version of reality, who are just not susceptible to reason or discussion, in short, psychotics - listening to Ms Tavenner "testify" really took me back - step by step relating of what's happening to those losing their insurance coverage every day now was met with a flat denial and a firm statement that no one was unable to keep what coverage they had if they wanted it - attempts to get a yes or no answer were met with an answer to a redefinition of the original question, and an attempt to go back and get a yes or no again would get a yes answer to the question as she redefined it - too cute by more than half - maybe some Thorazine or whatever they're using now would do her some good......
25 posted on 10/29/2013 2:03:35 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: AU72
When are the republicans going to man-up and get contempt citations going?

Never

This is got to be the 100th time the Regime has given them the finger in sworn testimony.

I'm guessing they passed 100 some time back.

This is nothing more than 3rd world theater. The GOPe is deliberately, repeat after me: deliberately, telling these criminals that they are free to do as they like. And telling us (the Great Unwashed) to shove it where the sun don't shine.

Dear GOPe, message received....loud & clear.

26 posted on 10/29/2013 2:05:32 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Don’t tell her until the “middle of November”. LOL!


27 posted on 10/29/2013 5:17:31 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Have you had your ObamaCare Marketplace shopping experience today?)
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To: safetysign

Slap her with a subpoena tomorrow morning.


28 posted on 10/29/2013 5:24:42 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: safetysign

Hold her in contempt of congress.


29 posted on 10/29/2013 8:08:35 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: safetysign

My wife says republicans should suggest the witnesses ask the NSA. I’m sure the NSA knoww how many signed up.


30 posted on 10/29/2013 9:01:42 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: MeshugeMikey

The amount of taxes the government takes in every quarter through withholding is about to plummet.


31 posted on 10/29/2013 9:04:46 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: July4

“if they could stop paying health insurance premiums and just sign up for ObamaCare if they fall ill.”

Originally, the only time people could enroll was during a set time (Oct. 1, 2013 - March 31, 2014). That enrollment time is going to be even shorter in the following years.

But with the website problems, the enrollment time is being extended temporarily, I think, at least for this first phase. Then in following years it will drop to only a time from Oct. to Dec. will people be able to enroll to get coverage (which would get them coverage beginning the next month, January).

From what I’ve read, there will be some exceptions...like if someone loses a job and doesn’t have insurance, they will be allowed to enroll during any month of the year. Also, some other life “change” events will qualify.

But according to those articles, it doesn’t sound like people can wait until they are sick and then just suddenly enroll in a plan. I may be wrong, so I hope someone will correct me if so. I’ve done some reading on it but sure don’t know all the facts.

And if enough Americans really get upset, the whole Obamacare thing could get stopped in its tracks anyway.


32 posted on 10/29/2013 9:35:24 PM PDT by Cedar
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To: FAA

“Bingo. If they were really rolling in new enrollees they would crowing infinitum, posting numbers, thumping their chests, etc.. They ain’t. And the reason why is real easy to figure out.”

When they do release figures, it will only include people added to Medicaid and those VERY heavily subsidized. Then they send the IRS after the hard-working taxpayers to get them to pitch in...


33 posted on 10/30/2013 4:04:34 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: VerySadAmerican

I see a SHARP DROP in the level of that river of cash.

everytime I go to healthcare.gov....MY browser chrashes


34 posted on 10/30/2013 7:09:26 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

we could give her erroneous info....and see how THAT plays out?


35 posted on 10/30/2013 7:48:37 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/)
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