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Carney denies people misled on keeping healthcare coverage
The Hill ^ | 10/29/31 | Justin Sink

Posted on 10/29/2013 12:10:06 PM PDT by tellw

White House press secretary Jay Carney on Tuesday denied President Obama had misled the public when he said that consumers could keep their health insurance plans after the passage of the Affordable Care Act.

Carney said that consumers who "had a plan the day before the Affordable Care Act passed and signed into law" and who had not either dropped their coverage or "been thrown off the plan" by their insurance companies were "grandfathered in and can keep that plan."

"If you've kept it, you can keep it forever, as long as your insurer offers it," Carney said.

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1 posted on 10/29/2013 12:10:06 PM PDT by tellw
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To: tellw
"...as long as your insurer offers it,"

The dishonest rub...since carriers are now dropping those plans because ACA made them illegal.

2 posted on 10/29/2013 12:12:02 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: tellw
More BS from Herr Gerbals
3 posted on 10/29/2013 12:12:12 PM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


4 posted on 10/29/2013 12:12:25 PM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: tellw

I can’t imagine a tougher job than being a public affairs spokesman for a serial liar like Obama.


5 posted on 10/29/2013 12:12:25 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: tellw; GOPJ

He says Americans are just stupid.... well... they elected Obama twice...he may have something there


6 posted on 10/29/2013 12:12:47 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: tellw

How does he look in the mirror and not be ashamed?

I know his job is to cover for the president but he is way over the top. Maybe he gets paid a large sum of money to continue the lie.


7 posted on 10/29/2013 12:13:00 PM PDT by Burlem
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To: RoosterRedux

I can’t think of a single time he hasn’t gotten up to that podium and lied through his teeth with a straight face.


8 posted on 10/29/2013 12:13:09 PM PDT by CountryClassSF
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To: tellw

9 posted on 10/29/2013 12:14:19 PM PDT by McGruff (Obama lied. Period!)
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To: tellw

You gotta wonder if they lie to us like this on a hourly basis, how do they treat their family memebers and friends?


10 posted on 10/29/2013 12:16:09 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11) Hey, Harry Reid.. 1-800-318-2596!)
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To: tellw

“Everyone knows there are feigning spells when the President speaks,” said a White House spokespuke.


11 posted on 10/29/2013 12:16:36 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: tellw

You cannot expect honesty from leftists


12 posted on 10/29/2013 12:18:46 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: tellw

A question to ponder:

What should we do with Carney following CW-II?

(Of course, he should not be allowed to escape the country. We will want him for something very very special.)


13 posted on 10/29/2013 12:20:13 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: GeronL

the bigger the lie the more people will believe it

Or so they think....


14 posted on 10/29/2013 12:21:00 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: tellw

But but but but...

...democrat house of reprehensibles member “Steny” Hoyer has already admitted that Obama lied...


15 posted on 10/29/2013 12:22:00 PM PDT by WayneS (No problem is so great that it cannot be made worse by having Barack Obama try to solve it.)
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To: Burlem
How does he look in the mirror and not be ashamed?

Obama is a post modernist. There is no morality or truth in his view of the world...ergo there is no shame.

16 posted on 10/29/2013 12:22:26 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: Da Coyote

Put him on a leash in a loincloth.


17 posted on 10/29/2013 12:22:41 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: tellw

...and yet they re-elect him anyway. So it doesn’t matter does it?


18 posted on 10/29/2013 12:22:44 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: tellw

For anyone remotely familiar with how these things worked, Obama’s lies were just as preposterous as if he’d promised: “If you like today’s weather, then you can keep it that way”.

And, of course, the employer mandate was put off because anyone remotely familiar with how that works knows that it will be far worse, and impact several times more people than implementation of the individual mandate.

But I’m not completely dismissing the possibility that Obama believed what he was saying. He’s that much of an ignoramus on most subjects, except on how to be a Con Man and shameless liar.


19 posted on 10/29/2013 12:22:47 PM PDT by Will88
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To: tellw
Similarly, Carney said that you can keep your Bill of Rights, as long as no one takes it away from you.
20 posted on 10/29/2013 12:24:20 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: tellw

“If you’ve kept it, you can keep it forever, as long as your insurer offers it,” Carney said.


And no one - not one “reporter” - asked “what happens if the ACA makes my insurance company drop my plan?”

Whose fault is it that I lose the insurance plan I want to keep forever? The insurance company?


21 posted on 10/29/2013 12:26:16 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Government: Slimy used car salesmen writing laws forcing you to buy their cars)
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To: Da Coyote

I think he should be given a nightly talk show on which he is only allowed to have Tea Party members as guests.

Each show will end with a three round boxing match between Carney and the guest.


22 posted on 10/29/2013 12:26:16 PM PDT by WayneS (No problem is so great that it cannot be made worse by having Barack Obama try to solve it.)
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To: mongo141

More like Hair Gerbil


23 posted on 10/29/2013 12:26:38 PM PDT by tophat9000 (Are we headed to a Cracker Slacker War?)
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To: All

memebers=members


24 posted on 10/29/2013 12:26:53 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11) Hey, Harry Reid.. 1-800-318-2596!)
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To: tellw

“If you’ve kept it, you can keep it forever, as long as your insurer offers it...”

Of course, any change, however slight, causes you to lose the grandfather status, so Insurance companies will drop all the plans as they come up for renewal.


25 posted on 10/29/2013 12:28:16 PM PDT by NavVet ("You Lie!")
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To: tellw
Carney: "We didn't mislead the American people; we flat-out LIED to them!"
26 posted on 10/29/2013 12:29:10 PM PDT by ken5050 (Benghazi investigation update: "The plot thickens, like Hillary Clinton's ankles.." (longfellow")
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To: tellw

It is getting harder to tell satire from real stories.


27 posted on 10/29/2013 12:29:18 PM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I do not doubt that our climate changes. I only doubt that anything man does has any effect.)
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To: fhayek

excellent comment!!!


28 posted on 10/29/2013 12:30:01 PM PDT by tired&retired
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To: tellw

Why is there even a “press secretary”?

We all know that his/her job is to spin and lie and demagogue and deflect and protect the president, no matter who he is.

This daily ritual of asking questions of a “representative” of the president, is a complete farce, so, why continue with the stupidity?


29 posted on 10/29/2013 12:30:12 PM PDT by adorno (Y)
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To: GeronL

I also in turn find it difficult to remain civil and polite in face of such dishonest and contemptuous punks.


30 posted on 10/29/2013 12:31:00 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: tellw
The insurance companies will and are being blamed. People need to be reminded that ACA forced the insurance companies to raise rates and cancel policies.
31 posted on 10/29/2013 12:31:38 PM PDT by ryan71 (The Partisans)
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To: tellw

Here’s an bit from what Ann Barnhardt posted yesterday:

“Okay. This all goes to my screaming rants that people are responsible for their government. I’m getting really sick of people acting all indignant and acting like they’re being ambushed by this whole ObamaCare thing.

“Er my gawsh, y’all! My insurance bill just quadrupled. I’m serious you guys!”

Well, no kidding. What in the blue firey blazes did you expect? Let’s see. Insurance is risk pooling. A bunch of people get together and pay a small amount of money into a pool, and then when one of the people has an adverse event happen to them, the frequency of which can be broadly statistically predicted, then the pool pays out to the unlucky person who had the adverse event happen to them.

Now let’s see. From DAY FLIPPING ONE the Obama regime has been saying that mean old insurance companies will not be able to turn away customers with pre-existing conditions – in other words, insurance companies will have to let people JOIN THE RISK POOL … AFTER THE RISK EVENT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED.

Um, yeah. That is the total, complete destruction of the entire insurance paradigm. This isn’t my opinion. This is a mathematical fact … an extremely simple and elementary mathematical fact. If people who have already had the adverse risk event happen to them must be allowed into the risk pool, then it is no longer a risk pool. It is a wealth redistribution scam that victimizes the TOTAL, COMPLETE MORONS who enter and pay into the “pool” without already having had the risk event happen to them.

How can a nation of 330 million people, iniquitous gutter republic though it may be, not understand this? How can a nation of 330 million people have their tyrannical regime tell them in no uncertain terms that the entire insurance paradigm is going to be destroyed by said regime, and then when it happens everyone acts all shocked?

Oh, and then add onto that the fact that ObamaCare requires insurance to cover all kinds of bee-ess “preventative” and “elective” services. Well, if every single person in a risk pool is guaranteed to have a claim because the coverage is no longer for catastrophes, but also for purely non-emergent, elective pseudomedicine and outright quackery, then what do you expect? The “pool” has to collect more than it pays out. Period.”

http://www.barnhardt.biz/


32 posted on 10/29/2013 12:32:12 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: tellw

I’ve always thought that this guy has the perfect last name to be Obama’s spokesperson. Just like the mythical carney out in front of the carnival selling lies to the public to get them into the tent. Next thing Carney will be telling us about will be the man eating chicken or the pickled punk. America are the rubes....


33 posted on 10/29/2013 12:32:37 PM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: tellw
Baghdad Bob Carney...
34 posted on 10/29/2013 12:32:55 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (People will retain the power to control the Government, or it will retain the power to control them.)
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To: tellw
White House Website’s “Reality Check” Page: “You Can Keep Your Own Insurance”
35 posted on 10/29/2013 12:33:11 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: tellw

That’s like peeing on my leg and telling me that it’s raining.


36 posted on 10/29/2013 12:33:41 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: tellw

The people weren’t misled. They were lied to.


37 posted on 10/29/2013 12:34:32 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: tellw

Sure. But employers are dropping plans. Insurers are dropping plans. If the plan isn’t there, you can’t keep it.


38 posted on 10/29/2013 12:34:35 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: tellw

Another day, another lie from the lips of the lying liar spokesman for the ....


39 posted on 10/29/2013 12:35:58 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: tellw

This carney sideshow is nothing but a fun-house where every seat comes with smoke outlet to attempt to blow up you ass.


40 posted on 10/29/2013 12:36:04 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: RoosterRedux

It only requires being a serial liar like Carney.


41 posted on 10/29/2013 12:37:01 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: CountryClassSF

The long-lost son of Baghdad Bob.


42 posted on 10/29/2013 12:37:05 PM PDT by Zack Attack
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To: tellw

Ah...the Jarrett talking points appear.


43 posted on 10/29/2013 12:37:58 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Da Coyote
We will want him for something very very special.

"Mr. Carney? Hi! I'm the doctor 0bamacare has assigned to do your colonoscopy. Do I look familiar? They used to call me Joe The Plumber. Now bend over and crack a vertical smile. This won't hurt a bit." (Sound of Roto Rooter firing up)

44 posted on 10/29/2013 12:39:22 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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Carney, a proud product of the Lawrenceville School (prep-school and "feeder" to Princeton University just "up the road"), has forgotten the school's motto.

Virtus Semper Viridis - often just "VSV" - Virtue Always Green.

High-minded, but Carney is more and more "out to lunch!" More and more, alumnus are not happy.

45 posted on 10/29/2013 12:39:50 PM PDT by jamaksin
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To: tellw
I have a GREAT idea for a Halloween costume for Jay Carney:

An honest person! LOL

46 posted on 10/29/2013 12:40:08 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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To: tellw

lies lead to more lies only to cover for the original lie. After Carny and Gibbs, that position needs a new name, especially under this lying fraud currently in the WH.


47 posted on 10/29/2013 12:41:15 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
Hence my name for the daily press briefing...

THE CARNEY BARKER SHOW!!!

48 posted on 10/29/2013 12:41:54 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: Nachum
Blame the insurance companies, send Occupy to burn them down, road to single payer.
49 posted on 10/29/2013 12:43:04 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: tellw
All in all, the Rats are being allowed to spin their way out of this, thanks MSM and Rinos.

There will never be a *smoking gun* allowed to exist with this administration, no matter what.

After a few days, all is forgotten with the sheeple.

50 posted on 10/29/2013 12:46:51 PM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert......Nuff said.)
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