Skip to comments.Top Dem admits ObamaCare could have been 'more precise' about people losing health plans
Posted on 10/29/2013 2:41:12 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
Top Dem admits ObamaCare could have been 'more precise' about people losing health plans
Published October 29, 2013 FoxNews.com
A top Democratic official conceded Tuesday that the health care overhaul should have been "more precise" in acknowledging the possibility that some Americans would lose their current insurance plans -- even as the White House defended its past statements on the law.
The admission from House Democratic Leader Steny Hoyer comes after a 2010 document emerged that predicted millions might be dropped by their providers.
The document helped explain why thousands are already getting cancellation notices and being guided toward new plans. It also gave new meaning to Nancy Pelosi's infamous remark, shortly before the complex legislation was approved in March 2010, that "we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it."
Hoyer said Tuesday that officials knew some health plans would not qualify under the new ObamaCare regulations. He said the overall message to the public was accurate -- just not precise enough.
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More precise HA they intended to deceive. Let the outraged deceived roar.
Could have been honest.
“Mistakes were made”?
These guys wouldn’t recognize the truth if it whacked them in the PP.
Democrats didn’t know. No one told them.
Actually, “accuracy” is the quality of being as close to the real or actual value as possible; in this case, the real value is the absolute truth.
“Precision” is the ability to recreate or repeat a level of accuracy multiple times.
So, if we take Old Steny at his word, then Obama is both a liar, and a chronic liar, as he was neither accurate, nor, according by Hoyer, precise enough.
Sign zee papers.
On a related note, I’m thoroughly enjoying the Obamacare threads over at DU where anyone pissed at the administration over this fiasco is accused of being a right-wing troll.
"Look, we needed to do this but you would never have agreed if we told you the truth, so we had to lie. But it's really for your own good. You'll understand and thank us for it later."
Does anyone really think that the timing here is incidental? That all this crappola is suddenly being splashed on the front pages and blaring from the TV sets now? With the midterms exactly one year away and the nationals a good three years away?
This is a classic exercise in damage control. They get the bad news out and have plenty of time to talk it to death, minimize the negative impacts, and by the time the elections roll around in the future, it's all "old news".
we couldn’t know how precise it was until we voted for it.
Every Democrat needs to be voted out of office— The party should be punished for slavishly following Obama. Same with the MSM—No one should by their Propaganda Papers or watch their TV news. No one should buy from the people who sponsor their lies. Boycott the Party and MSM of Lies and Anti-Americanism.
Do we have to be “more precise” doing our taxes?
“They get the bad news out “
I do think this is worse news than they wanted to admit to.
Did they want to insult their believers this badly?? ok of necessity they did — thought the believers would not notice as much as they have noticed . . .
so let us help the former deluded believers REMEMBER come a month or a year from now. Makes great theatre too!
Wish I were better at utube etc. I have an imagination about costumes for ObamaScare == this 31 Oct is a great opportunity to use satire and humor to place o Scare in its place. Too bad I do not have the media or video skills to launch it.
More precise than “nobody”? That’s crazy and silly.
It was a lie, not an imprecise statement.
This is nothing short of a lie. If this was any corporation there would be people already in jail.
Those people are evil. Plain and simple.
Satan is the Father of lies. And lying runs rampant in the Democ-RAT party.
I agree with you.
but: [paraphrasing] ours was to do or die, not to reason why; charge of the Light Brigade . . .
For this time, let them fall on their own swords of hubris for this o scare monstrosity; we do reason why and we will not die for o care lies.
How could they know? They haven’t read the plan. How could obama know? He hasn’t read the plan.
If they haven’t read the plan, it’s not their fault for not understanding it. /s
“...Every Democrat needs to be voted out of office...”
Ain’t only the Dems, friend. Plenty of RINO assh*les who help them at every opportunity.
And as long as half the country votes for the American Communist Insurgency - AKA the Democrats - don’t count on them all being thrown out.
Perhaps a better strategy is for our side to LEARN how to stonewall, impede, block, and otherwise stall anything and everything they do when we have the means to do so.
Boehner and his ilk need to go; they could have stonewalled Obamacare by funding everything else except it, over and over. He lost his nerve - what little he had.
BINGO Ronin, I've posted this same message several times on other threads.. It's the same with HRC, and Benghazi, get it out now, and out of the way..
“People believed the President and now you are being critical of them for doing so?
While you might like it, this is really very VERY simple. The President made a point of repeatedly saying something that turns out not to be even remotely true. The change might be understandable, it might even be for the better, but it was still not true. People should be able to trust what their elected representatives tell them, and when it turns out that those representatives were not telling them the truth they are going to be pissed off — and you can bet your ass the media is going to report it gleefully.
That’s reality. Short and sweet, if you don’t want people angry at you for lying there is a very simple solution. “
from an angry DU poster
“Yes, I think this one is going to leave a mark.
I don’t think it’s the end of his presidency, but this one hits people squarely in their personal life and for some upsets their choices. “
another angry DU poster
“Our cancelled plan was NOT crappy nor cheap
Have a small business. 6 employees plus myself. Everyone over 50. Most over 60. Those with kids ... The kids are grown with insurance of their own.
But our policy will not be renewed we have been informed because it does not cover maternity care nor pediatric vision and both are now required.
Really?!?!? We insure a bunch of near senior citizens. Requiring maternity and pediatric vision also requires a miracle of Biblical proportions. If it came to pass that we DID need maternity care and pediatric vision we could sell the “Miracle Birth” story to the National Enquirer for more money than the medical care cost!!!
We pay more in premiums because we are old. Fair enough. The probability of one of us needing healthcare is greater than a 25 year old. I get that. But the same logic should allow us to NOT buy insurance for an event whose probability (also because we are old) is now ZERO.
But regardless of logic, our policy won’t be renewed. Looking at much higher premiums and/or deductibles.
Go figure. “
another DU poster who sounds more like a freeper
There are those with eyes who can see and ears which can hear and they are NOT drinking the cool aid.
“Top Dem admits ObamaCare could have been ‘more precise’ about people losing health plans’
Right. And it took ‘em only 3.5 years to figure that out. Wonder why it took so long? Oh, yeah, right. A realityberg gob smacked ‘em up the side of the face and they had too figure out a new lie.
Up your sorry Soetoro hole Steny.
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They probably would have known this if they had bothered to read the thing before voting on it. I guess they were too busy swooning over pelosi....
Go ahead Dems, and admit that Obamacare is going to cost more too. Where’s the savings? So people lose what they want, and pay more for what they don’t want and don’t need. No wonder the government has to force people to buy Obama’s product, otherwise no one would touch it. It sucks.
So0 “lieing” now means “not being more precise”. These commie DIMocRATs are something else. These bums should be in prison.
So “lieing” now means “not being more precise”. These commie DIMocRATs are something else. These bums should be in prison.
If I recall right, Biblically, Satan told half-truths too.
True, only 10 million lose their plan but 10 ARE able to keep theirs.
What difference, at this point, does it make?
I’m gonna need some painkillers and medical marijuana by the truckload to get through this. This is almost enough to make me want states to move to legalize cocaine, speed, LSD, Ecstasy and Crystla meth. This is crushing my spirit and my spirit is pretty crushed to begin with.
-Ken Lay, 2002
Right behind subjective and situational definitions of terms.
Let the frog marching begin.
I once pointed out some of obama’s stupid statements to an obama lover and his response was “He didn’t mean it.”
My experience with Obama lovers is the same, it doesn’t matter what it is. One told me they figure they have to “protect” him no matter what because of all the Republican lies, so it doesn’t seem to matter. It defies logic.