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How GOP Insiders Will Fail in Civil War vs. Tea Party: “The Establishment Strikes Back”
Canada Free Press ^ | October 29, 2013 | Jonathon Moseley

Posted on 10/29/2013 2:46:52 PM PDT by Moseley

“The Establishment Strikes Back.” But this campaign against the tea party will fail, because false assumptions dominate the thinking and plans of America’s Republican establishment. GOP insiders have now declared war on the tea party. They are promising during the 2014 U.S. elections to restore business interests to dominate the GOP, and weaken the tea party influence.

“Hopefully we’ll go into eight to 10 races and beat the snot out of them,” said former Rep. Steve LaTourette of Ohio. According to the National Journal, “LaTourette’s new political group, Defending Main Street, aims to raise $8 million to fend off tea-party challenges against more mainstream Republican incumbents.” La Tourette explains: “We’re going to be very aggressive and we’re going to get in their faces.”

Trouble is: America’s Republican aristocracy does not understand the tea party or what is motivating the grassroots insurgency. Republican insiders cannot respond to what they do not understand.

First, too many ‘mainstream’ Republicans candidates spend money like drunken sailors. They vote for more spending, bigger deficits, more business-strangling regulations, bigger government, and ballooning national debt. They must eventual buckle to higher taxes.

Political gurus put on an act, saying that the divide falls between fiscal issues and social issues. But establishment candidates are not fiscal conservatives, the only play fiscal conservatives on TV. The tea party revolt is against the GOP’s rampant fiscal irresponsibility.

The tea party aims to put the United States’ finances in order, lowering taxes, and balancing the budget. The charade of pitting ‘business interests’ against the tea party will not fool businessmen for long. The GOP establishment is bad for business.

Second, the grassroots is demanding genuine change. Until they see actual change, ain’t nobody listening. GOP elites don’t get it:

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Delaware
KEYWORDS: civilwar; gopcivilwar; raisemorewinless; republicaninsiders; stevelatourette; teaparty
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The grassroots is like a wife who has been cheated on, who is refusing to listen to her adulterous husband’s excuses. So when GOP aristocrats ‘warn’ us about tea party candidates, their arguments fall on deaf ears. Voters must see a genuine change of heart before they might start listening. Hell hath no fury like a voter whom the establishment has lied to (once too often).

Third, conservative candidates thrive when attacked by GOP elites. The morning after Christine O’Donnell won the September 14, 2010, primary, her website displayed a fund-raising goal of $50,000. Then, news spread that Mike Castle refused to endorse the choice of the voters and the National Republican Senatorial Committee (NRSC) was refusing to help. Radio talk show host Laura Ingraham that morning then Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity that afternoon urged their enormous audiences to donate.

Christine’s fund-raising blew through $1.1 million by 1:30 PM. She only asked for $50,000 that day. Conservatives ultimately gave $7.4 million. Steve LaTourette’s entire budget is only $8 million, spread across 10 campaigns.

Contributors gave $7.4 million for the pleasure of sticking their thumb in GOP guru Karl Rove’s eye. The more the establishment snubbed sweet and sympathetic Christine, the more conservative donors wanted to slap Republican elites across the face with their own donation. Those donations were a rejection of the very establishment who now imagine we will suddenly start listening to them.

1 posted on 10/29/2013 2:46:52 PM PDT by Moseley
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To: Moseley

Wouldn’t it be nice if these GOP insiders devoted the energy they are using to defeat the TEA Party to defeating Democrats instead? I can dream can’t I?


2 posted on 10/29/2013 2:54:21 PM PDT by Fair Paul
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To: Moseley
Contributors gave $7.4 million for the pleasure of sticking their thumb in GOP guru Karl Rove’s eye. The more the establishment snubbed sweet and sympathetic Christine, the more conservative donors wanted to slap Republican elites across the face with their own donation. Those donations were a rejection of the very establishment who now imagine we will suddenly start listening to them.

And how did that work out for Senator O'Donnell?

3 posted on 10/29/2013 2:55:37 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Moseley

Excellent! This is a bullseye!


4 posted on 10/29/2013 2:57:00 PM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: Moseley
LaTourette’s new political group, Defending Main Street

Main Street??? Really??? What is that old saying that Sarah Palin so eloquently and aptly cited about a pig with lipstick?

5 posted on 10/29/2013 2:57:33 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: Moseley
The GOPe is in for one hell of a surprise when the American people (Tea Party) crawl through broken glass to kick the shit out of these RINO’s in 2014!!

Paging Karl Rove, your unemployment check is in the mail, your Obamacare policy is also waiting for you, now bend over and take it like the piece of shit you are!

6 posted on 10/29/2013 2:58:50 PM PDT by PotatoChop (Respect is earned, not demanded by this out of control socialist government!)
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To: PotatoChop
I do believe you are correct. That the GOPe has to make "promises" to help business shows full and well how far they have drifted into democrat territory over the years.

Night night you bastard kool aide drinkers, TEA is now the official drink.

Oh, and my check is in the mail; promise.

7 posted on 10/29/2013 3:02:22 PM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: Moseley

Still waiting for someone to challenge John Cornyn. Cornyn needs to go!


8 posted on 10/29/2013 3:03:26 PM PDT by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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To: Moseley

this pinhead is obviously suffering from Tourette’s Syndrome

thou fool


9 posted on 10/29/2013 3:04:30 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: Moseley

The GOPe is fighting to retain their stolen power, period.
The GOPe is in bed with the Democrats, period.
The GOPe already foisted upon the American People, the likes of John McCain and Mitt Romney. No more.

Anybody that is not going to stand FOR The U.S. Constitution, and operate WITHIN that fixed document, is a traitor, and needs to be removed from office.

Period.


10 posted on 10/29/2013 3:06:25 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Absent having to continue running against the GOP in the general election Christine O’Donnell would’ve been elected. Instead, people like yourself piled on to make sure the Democrat won just to spite the conservatives who didn’t take their marching orders from the GOPee elites.

And now me and my family (who live in Wyoming) are donating to Matt Bevin in the hopes that he can unseat that useless old turd Mitch McConnell. He won’t even be OUR Senator but putting our finger in the eyes of the likes of Karl Rove, McConnell, and (apparently) yourself is completely worth it.

Thus said, the author of this article is right.

And you don’t get it, do you? Your time is over. Get out of the way.


11 posted on 10/29/2013 3:13:02 PM PDT by MeganC (Support Matt Bevin to oust Mitch McConnell! https://mattbevin.com/)
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To: Moseley

Why not post the rest of the material here?


12 posted on 10/29/2013 3:14:39 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Lurking Libertarian
And how did that work out for Senator O'Donnell?

It worked out well. She withstood the attacks and beat the RINO Castle in the primary. That's very encouraging.

OK. She lost the general election, but more important, a RINO didn't win it. The GOP-e needs to understand that if they work against the Tea Party, their candidates will ultimately lose.

Sure O'Donnell lost the election, but so did the GOP-e. I'd rather have a Tea Partier lose to a Democrat, than have a GOP-e RINO win.

The Tea Party message needs to be that if the RINOs run the Republican Party, the Tea Party is serious about seeing the party collapse.

The RINOs never believe that -- they think that in the end we will always vote for the RINOs. And in the past they have been right.

But this time it's different.

13 posted on 10/29/2013 3:20:43 PM PDT by Maceman (Just say "NO" to tyranny.)
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To: Moseley

Bttt


14 posted on 10/29/2013 3:21:34 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Fair Paul

“I can dream can’t I?”

I don’t know. Have you paid your dream taxes?


15 posted on 10/29/2013 3:22:45 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Towanda! Charge!!! A Fuwappiduh is called for in 5, 4, 3 ,2.....Dang, that was awesome, Dudes......)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

about as well as Rovio and Romney


16 posted on 10/29/2013 3:23:58 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Lurking Libertarian
And how did that work out for Senator O'Donnell?

So you're admitting the GOP-e is more interesting in screwing conservatives than in defeating Democrats.

It's a start.

17 posted on 10/29/2013 3:25:26 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: Moseley
How many of Karl Rove's handpicked candidates won in 2012?

Rove, through his two political outfits, American Crossroads and Crossroads Grassroots Policy Strategies, backed unsuccessful Republican presidential contender Mitt Romney with $127 million on more than 82,000 television spots, according to Kantar Media’s CMAG, an ad tracker based in New York.

Down the ballot, 10 of the 12 Senate candidates and four of the nine House candidates the Rove groups supported also lost their races.

Rove and wannabees like La Tourette raise big bucks and use the money to feather their own nests.

Donald Trump posted a message on Twitter saying: “Congrats to @KarlRove on blowing $400 million this cycle. Every race @CrossroadsGPS ran ads in, the Republicans lost. What a waste of money.”

18 posted on 10/29/2013 3:31:49 PM PDT by kabar
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To: drypowder
Main Street??? Really???

More like Wall Street.

19 posted on 10/29/2013 3:38:27 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment. [Ludwig Von Mises])
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To: Lurking Libertarian
And how did that work out for Senator O'Donnell?

You didn't read the article, did you?

20 posted on 10/29/2013 3:39:32 PM PDT by upsdriver ( Palin/West '16)
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To: Moseley

Civil war? Nah.. The TP needs to simply inform the GOP it will break off and form its own party if the GOP doesn’t cease and desist with the attacks. The GOP will never win the White House again anyway, so there’s no reason not to throw that gauntlet down now.


21 posted on 10/29/2013 3:40:11 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

LOL, that was desperate of you, the tea party rolled in a pile of victories in 2010, and in 2012 Rove rolled in massive defeat, wasting something like 400 million and the GOPe losing something like 10 or 11 Senate races, while Palin was giving us our only Senate seat pick-up, and Ted Cruz.


22 posted on 10/29/2013 3:42:05 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Democrats-"a party that since antebellum times has been bent on the dishonoring of humanity.)
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To: Moseley

Boy I hope they fail. For the past few years I have been VERY much in favor of splitting off and forming a third party. The GOP can’t beat the Dims anyway. Now is the time.

However, I sure hope they do fail against us.


23 posted on 10/29/2013 3:43:36 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: stuckinohio
Rep. Steve LaTourette of Ohio

Maybe this guy can become an example?

24 posted on 10/29/2013 3:56:01 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Fair Paul

Dreaming on that with you


25 posted on 10/29/2013 3:58:41 PM PDT by Moseley (http://www.curesocialism.com)
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To: Maceman

bump


26 posted on 10/29/2013 3:59:31 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Lurking Libertarian
And how did that work out for Senator O'Donnell?

Well that is a vastly complex question with many, many parts to it.

But the point is, right here, that people gave AGAINST the establishment more than "for" Christine. Voters wanted to show the GOP establishment the middle finger.

So the same GOP establishment telling those voters whom to vote for is not going to work. The GOP leadership has lost the trust of the Party grassroots.

Until GOP leaders win back the trust of the grassroots voters, nothing good is going to happen.
27 posted on 10/29/2013 4:01:16 PM PDT by Moseley (http://www.curesocialism.com)
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The GOP establishment has failed and at best has always met halfway from where they are to where the far left is going.

Time to end it, forget mending it.

Put all new ones with spines in.


28 posted on 10/29/2013 4:01:21 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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And how did that work out for Senator O'Donnell?

It got her IRS records illegally accessed and distributed, in an inside-job to derail her campaign with what turned out in hindsight to be false allegations, but at the time a lethal blow.

-PJ

29 posted on 10/29/2013 4:01:46 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Moseley
Political gurus put on an act, saying that the divide falls between fiscal issues and social issues.

The divide falls between more government and less government.

The most pressing of the social issues are around ailments caused by government. Hack and prune government out of abortion, homosexuality, and charity (welfare). Root it out in civil "rights" anti-discrimination tyranny of such that a business can be sued for refusing to provide wedding services to prospective gay clients. And watch as abortion and promiscuity and the gay "lifestyle" get ... well, politely shown the door. Go somewhere else. And while we're at it, get rid of government in religious matters so we can see some CHRISTMAS TREES in American banks again and post the 10 Commandments where ever they need to be.

The less government, a more moral America.

30 posted on 10/29/2013 4:05:33 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Moseley

If we had just done as much for Lonegan.


31 posted on 10/29/2013 4:07:27 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Fair Paul
The Democrats aren't the enemny of the "establishment Republicans". The constitutional conservatives are. Those RINOs are quite content being in charge of the loyal opposition, profiting every step of the way.

Now that they've been outed, they have the nerve to fight back. Why can't they just slither away?

32 posted on 10/29/2013 4:09:34 PM PDT by grania
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To: Maceman
She lost the general election, but more important, a RINO didn't win it.

And a RINO couldn't have, despite what the Rovians tell you.

BTW, does "Rovian" sound suspiciously like "Romulan"?

33 posted on 10/29/2013 4:10:08 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

No, LaTourette Syndrome.


34 posted on 10/29/2013 4:10:38 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

“And how did that work out for Senator O’Donnell?”

Actual her most effective opposition, and the democrats support, came from Karl Rove and his tribe. Without Roves help and the establishments help given to the democrats she would have won.


35 posted on 10/29/2013 4:10:46 PM PDT by Breto (Stranger in a strange land... where did America go?)
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To: Moseley
“Hopefully we’ll go into eight to 10 races and beat the snot out of them,” said former Rep. Steve LaTourette of Ohio. According to the National Journal, “LaTourette’s new political group, Defending Main Street, aims to raise $8 million to fend off tea-party challenges against more mainstream Republican incumbents.” La Tourette explains: “We’re going to be very aggressive and we’re going to get in their faces.”

Steve, Steve, you do not realize that the Tea Party represents the voters of the USA. Especially those voters who believe in fiscal responsibility, the right to life, personal responsibility, common sense, they believe in God, and they know that men and women are different.

Steve, you are a foolish and misguided man!

36 posted on 10/29/2013 4:16:01 PM PDT by olezip (Time obliterates the fictions of opinion and confirms the decisions of nature. ~ Cicero)
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But this campaign against the tea party will fail, because false assumptions dominate the thinking and plans of America’s Republican establishment.

Great article -- I think he's pretty much spot on.

I also think one of the biggest fasle assumptions is that people will blindly vote Republican "against" the other guy. That "heads-we-win, tails-you-loose" trick only works for so long.

37 posted on 10/29/2013 4:16:49 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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Glenn Beck said that it would take the Tea Party 18 months to take over the Republican party and replace it. This was
like when the Republicans replaced the Whigs in the 1850’s. The first step, Beck said, is to starve the Pubs of donations. No more money to the RNC or any Republican rinos.


38 posted on 10/29/2013 4:17:13 PM PDT by GilGil
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To: Terry L Smith
The GOPe already foisted upon the American People, the likes of John McCain and Mitt Romney. No more. Anybody that is not going to stand FOR The U.S. Constitution, and operate WITHIN that fixed document, is a traitor, and needs to be removed from office. Period.

Amen!!!

39 posted on 10/29/2013 4:19:32 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Moseley

Is this the same “Chuck” LaTourette that played pro football?


40 posted on 10/29/2013 4:20:42 PM PDT by duffee (NO poll tax, NO tax on firearms, ammunition or gun safes. NO gun free zones.)
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To: Moseley

In all truth, these establishment Republicans will never have loyalty to a conservative Republican party, and will even work with Democrats to defeat it. So it needs to be made clear to them that if they want war, so be it, but if they lose, they will no longer have any position of authority within the party.

They and their lobbyist cronies will be on the outs, as will their business clients. So there will be no more sweetheart deals, favorable legislation to give them government money instead of earning it, and the party itself will show them the door.


41 posted on 10/29/2013 4:21:41 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Welfare is the new euphemism for Eugenics.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

The establishment encouraged the attacks on O’Donnell. They did not want her to be successful, and undermined her from the beginning. This is what they are doing now, and plan to do in the future. But if they think we will sit back and meekly accept their wise guidance, they will see that those days are over.


42 posted on 10/29/2013 4:32:46 PM PDT by Ninaq
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To: Moseley
42% Identify with Obama Politically, 42% with 'Tea Party'

From Rasmussen on Drudge.

So, I wonder how much of the remaining % goes to the elite GOP?

43 posted on 10/29/2013 4:56:46 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (-)
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To: Moseley

I would be willing to bet that this internecine war will not result in Tea Party capitulation, rather the opposite.


44 posted on 10/29/2013 5:04:00 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: Right Wing Assault
They only had those two choices for answers -- Obama and the average member of the Tea Party.

That doesn't mean everybody in either column is enthusiastic about the choice or that they reject other alternatives.

They just dislike the other choice more than the one they picked.

45 posted on 10/29/2013 5:08:52 PM PDT by x
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I would be willing to bet that this internecine war will not result in Tea Party capitulation, rather the opposite.

You can be certain of that. First, the tea party members believe, and are absolutely convinced, that they are fighting for the survival of the country as we know it. They will never capitulate. On the other hand, the Republican elite do not actually believe in anything or stand for anything. They are simply looking for personal advantage and personal enrichment.

However, the Republican elite is stubborn and does not learn. Therefore, although there is the obvious potential to come together and work together, the arrogance of the establishment will prevent it from happening.

As a result, neither side will capitulate, and the Republican party will be split in two. That is sad, preventable, and not desirable at all.

However, the tea party began as an independent movement, held its nose to work within the GOP when the GOP was pretending to change, and will be more than happy to leave the GOP. Many tea party leaders and members have had to be talked in to remaining within the GOP. It won't take much to get them to walk out.

Most tea party members believe that the Republican Party cannot be saved, and the only hope is to start a new party. Because that belief is so strong, the tea party will never capitulate.

Either Republican leaders reform and return to Reaganesque principles of fiscal responsibility, there will not be any Republican party in a few years.
46 posted on 10/29/2013 5:27:14 PM PDT by Moseley (http://www.curesocialism.com)
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And how did that work out for Senator O'Donnell?

Better than it did for Mike Castle the RINO loser, and his RINO water carriers.

47 posted on 10/29/2013 5:31:35 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Political Junkie Too
It got her IRS records illegally accessed and distributed, in an inside-job to derail her campaign with what turned out in hindsight to be false allegations, but at the time a lethal blow.

And her character besmirched.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Rove and his buddies had a hand in that.

48 posted on 10/29/2013 8:37:21 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

49 posted on 10/29/2013 8:44:44 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Moseley

The American Revolution in 5 breathtaking minutes!(coming soon)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wjfrexe61XI&list=PL0495110E37B1B29E


50 posted on 10/29/2013 8:47:16 PM PDT by TheCause ("that these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States")
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