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Obama 'gutting military' by purging generals
WND ^ | 10/30/2013 | F. Michael Maloof

Posted on 10/30/2013 5:59:50 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

President Obama this year alone has fired some nine generals and flag officers, on top of at least four similar dismissals during his first term, suggesting that a purge may be the real reason behind the removals, which are being described as cases of personal misbehavior.

Retired U.S. Army Maj. Gen. Paul Vallely, an outspoken critic of the Obama administration, claims it is part of Obama’s strategy to reduce U.S. standing worldwide.

“Obama is intentionally weakening and gutting our military, Pentagon and reducing us as a superpower, and anyone in the ranks who disagrees or speaks out is being purged,” he charged.

Duty personnel seem to back up this concern, suggesting that the firings are meant to send a message to “young officers down through the ranks” not to criticize the president or White House politics.

“They are purging everyone, and if you want to keep your job, just keep your mouth shut,” one source said.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: benghazi; illegalorders; martiallaw; militarypurge; mymilitary; nwo; obamapurge; obamaspurge; purge

1 posted on 10/30/2013 5:59:50 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/102913-677116-197-military-officers-purged-by-obama.htm


2 posted on 10/30/2013 6:02:13 AM PDT by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: RoosterRedux

shhhhh. nobody noticed this. its a secret.

Amazing how zer0 is making sure that there will be no military coups when he turns America into a fiefdom with his own coup.


3 posted on 10/30/2013 6:03:05 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: RoosterRedux

The ones who will not vow to fire on U.S. civilians if so ordered are first to go.


4 posted on 10/30/2013 6:04:02 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: RoosterRedux
His indiscretion? Gurganus questioned having to use Afghan security patrols alongside American patrols after two of his officers were executed at their desk and a platoon was led into an ambush.

Here's a good example of why I despise Barack Obama. He's not inept - he's rotting-fish-head evil.

5 posted on 10/30/2013 6:04:53 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: RoosterRedux

This is what Stalin did in the 1930’s. The result? When Hitler attacked, they had a rally poor response to the attack. Russia was saved by General Winter and the depth of the country. Obama is doing this to greatly weaken the US military forces.


6 posted on 10/30/2013 6:06:59 AM PDT by mfish13 (ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES!!!!)
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To: RoosterRedux

Nine officers is less than 1 percent of the total number of generals and admirals we have. I wouldn’t call that ‘gutting’.


7 posted on 10/30/2013 6:07:34 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: maine yankee
From your link

Obama's Military Coup Purges 197 Officers In Five Years

… From Breitbart.com's Facebook page comes a list of at least 197 officers that have been relieved of duty by President Obama for a laundry list of reasons and sometimes with no reason given. Stated grounds range from "leaving blast doors on nukes open" to "loss of confidence in command ability" to "mishandling of funds" to "inappropriate relationships" to "gambling with counterfeit chips" to "inappropriate behavior" to "low morale in troops commanded."

Nine senior commanding generals have been fired by the Obama administration this year, leading to speculation by active and retired members of the military that a purge of its commanders is under way.


8 posted on 10/30/2013 6:08:18 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: RoosterRedux

Ha. They obviously haven’t seen the Facebook statuses of my Army Officer buddies because none of them have been ‘purged.’


9 posted on 10/30/2013 6:09:20 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: RoosterRedux

Faggots are being promoted.


10 posted on 10/30/2013 6:10:24 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: DoodleDawg
Nine officers is less than 1 percent of the total number of generals and admirals we have. I wouldn’t call that ‘gutting’.

That's nine just this year. Overall, it's approaching 200. See posts #2 amd #8.

11 posted on 10/30/2013 6:12:23 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: DoodleDawg
Nine officers is less than 1 percent of the total number of generals and admirals we have. I wouldn’t call that ‘gutting’.

I call it "a good start."

12 posted on 10/30/2013 6:13:12 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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To: DoodleDawg
If 9 officers is about one percent, then 197 officers is about 20%.

See the link above to see how serious this is.

13 posted on 10/30/2013 6:13:34 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (0bama lied, Stevens died, now 0bama covers up the lies.)
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To: mfish13
The result? When Hitler attacked, they had a rally poor response to the attack.

Really poor response equaling millions of lives needlessly lost. Even German generals were disgusted with the misuse and waste of Russian lives during the war's opening phases.

This will be the bottom line of this dissembler's misuse of the military.

Its already happening in Afghanistan with casualties tripling under the bastrid's command. Of course no one seems to care about this because the Obama stooges in the media have lost their interest in that war.

14 posted on 10/30/2013 6:16:48 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: mfish13

Neither of those will save us. We are being attacked[quite successfully, by the way] from the inside. With the guise that they are able to own property and guns, the most dangerous [to them] segment of the herd is kept calm and comfortable and the remainder is sedated by “free money”, a/k/a, EBT cards that they can use to purchase drugs, sex, and last but not least, groceries. And the charade will continue until slaughter day when the herd is thinned. The property and gun owners will be allowed to survive because they are useful for their labor. The EBT portion will be gone, since they will no longer serve any [to them] useful function.


15 posted on 10/30/2013 6:21:14 AM PDT by sport
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To: Michael.SF.
If 9 officers is about one percent, then 197 officers is about 20%.

Who are the other 188 admirals and generals? The article only lists 9.

16 posted on 10/30/2013 6:39:31 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: IYAS9YAS
That's nine just this year. Overall, it's approaching 200. See posts #2 amd #8.

Approaching 200 admirals and generals? Who are the other 190 or so?

17 posted on 10/30/2013 6:40:23 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: sport

Standard Communist tactics when they consolidate power. The “Useful Idiots” are no longer useful, as they have only their votes and complaints to offer, and voting is no longer necessary, while complaining is counterrevolutionary.


18 posted on 10/30/2013 6:42:07 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Oddly enough, for once I don’t see any real perfidy here.

The bottom line is that all the armed forces are very top heavy, with far too many admirals and generals.

For example, the Navy is close to having more admirals than it has ships. During the Reagan Cold War build-up, there were about 2 ships per admiral. During the Vietnam War, 3 ships per admiral. And in WWII, 130 ships per admiral.

Back to the present, not only are so many senior officers left twiddling their thumbs, but the reduction in force of enlisted men makes things much worse. It also grinds promotions for less senior officers to a halt, and morale suffers.

Since flag grade officers are the interface with the political world, the office politics and infighting gets bad. Military contractors get sweet deals with the idea that they will hire retired flag officers as consultants and to swing deals with their old peers still in uniform.

This is not to say that this is not a politically correct purge, which it probably is. But once conservatives are back in power, they will have to purge as many or more officers who sold their souls to stay in their jobs.

In the best of times, the careers of flag officers have the lifespan of fruit flies. They are all within range of mandatory retirement, no matter what.


19 posted on 10/30/2013 6:45:19 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Welfare is the new euphemism for Eugenics.)
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To: RoosterRedux

An in our so-called conservative Congress: ...zzzzzzzzzzzzzz....


20 posted on 10/30/2013 6:46:00 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: RoosterRedux

Below is copied from Coasttocoastam show. The first hour this guy - who is into an incredible lot of things - told about something one has to really worry about - controlling people’s minds.

We can wonder whether military will obey orders to harm ordinary citizens. But he explained about how they have mind controls that will overcome a person’s natural will so that they will do whatever the ‘controllers’ want them to do.

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21 posted on 10/30/2013 6:46:42 AM PDT by PraiseTheLord (have you seen the fema camps, shackle box cars, thousands of guillotines, stacks of coffins ~)
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To: Vaquero

I suggest all the purged generals speak out about what is really going on in the military (behind bullet-proof glass and with bodyguards of course)...


22 posted on 10/30/2013 6:53:27 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: RoosterRedux

These officers should meet.


23 posted on 10/30/2013 6:58:24 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: PraiseTheLord

> Below is copied from Coasttocoastam show. The first hour this guy - who is into an incredible lot of things - told about something one has to really worry about - controlling people’s minds.

We can wonder whether military will obey orders to harm ordinary citizens. But he explained about how they have mind controls that will overcome a person’s natural will so that they will do whatever the ‘controllers’ want them to do.

I used to think all these guys were just conspiracy nut jobs. Now I’’m not so sure anymore.

This might explain why so many people have gone bonkers hearing voices in their heads right before they pulled the trigger the past few years whil 0 has been in office.


24 posted on 10/30/2013 6:59:42 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: SC_Pete

> These officers should meet.

I agree but at a secret location with a security detail capable of protecting them from illegal and unlawful intrusion.


25 posted on 10/30/2013 7:01:51 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: DoodleDawg
Approaching 200 admirals and generals? Who are the other 190 or so?

That's just in the article. I remember hearing about a few over the last few years. I don't do Facebook, so I haven't looked at the Breitbart Facebook site that gives the information.

26 posted on 10/30/2013 7:04:24 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Everyone, after a few years on the job, has something in his record that the superiors can use to ‘get’ you if they so choose. Some little insubordination. Some words spoken while tipsy. If they want to fire you they will.

In this case the top guy is firing people who do not agree with him.

If only the American public would get its head out of its anal exit passageway and realize what’s happening.


27 posted on 10/30/2013 7:05:08 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: RoosterRedux; All

This comment may seem far fetched, but I keep seeing “on purpose” in everything this admin is doing.

Thus, this purge of our best and brightest military officers is stunning .. as well as being a little frightening.

We have learned that these officers were ask, “... if there is a riot, will you fire on civilians ..?? If the officer said, “NO”, they were fired or asked to resign.

So, my conclusion as to the reason for this purge is to do several things: (1) continue the demoralization of our military; (2) continue the downgrade of our capability to defend ourselves; and (3) set up America to once again be in fear of an attack worse than 9/11.

And .. I can’t help but wonder if this admin is really hoping for another attack .. whereby they would be enabled to declare martial law. I’ve mentioned this possibility before, but since the officer purge, the sense that the end goal is martial law continues to bother me.

I know it’s hard for Americans to believe that our own President might be rooting for our demise. But, there is plenty of evidence to support the view that they are .. if you’re willing to look for and read the information available.


28 posted on 10/30/2013 7:19:25 AM PDT by CyberAnt (MY AMERICA: "... I'm terrified it's slipping away.")
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To: jsanders2001

Yes. Excellent.


29 posted on 10/30/2013 7:24:52 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: RoosterRedux

I was looking for lists, found this about 157 Majors nixed in 2011:

http://dailycaller.com/2011/11/25/military-advocates-decry-illegal-early-terminations-of-157-air-force-majors/

Here is the list of the others:

http://freepatriot.org/2013/10/23/full-list-197-officers-removed-obamas-military-purge/


30 posted on 10/30/2013 7:35:18 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Meanwhile, the Joint Chiefs service whom?


31 posted on 10/30/2013 7:39:47 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Navy Patriot

We know that, don’t we? It seems that the useful idiots never catch on.


32 posted on 10/30/2013 8:21:45 AM PDT by sport
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To: RoosterRedux

This is not unusual or unexpected.


33 posted on 10/30/2013 9:44:35 AM PDT by Robert Teesdale
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To: Michael.SF.

So, I looked at these so called lists. I have yet to find one with 197 names. The best that I was able to do was 158. That list only contained the names of 12 general officers/Admirals. Several of those names are complete bunk: wrong ocean, wrong offense, wrong circumstances. This whole storyline falls apart within about 10-15 minutes using a simple Google search.

But, instead we get a gang of commentors who haven’t read the articles, haven’t done any fact checking, don’t have any understanding or knowledge of what goes on every day. I seriously doubt that Obama, or anyone else it the White House was involved in a single one of these incidents, with the exception of Petreaus and McChrystal. These things just don’t happen that way. The political class doesn’t know who these people are, don’t care what they do, and are not involved when they need to be fired.

Obama is the worst President in recent memory, perhaps the worst ever. We have plenty of substantive things to use in our attack against Obama. This is not one of them.


34 posted on 10/30/2013 9:58:17 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: centurion316

From the article:

Retired U.S. Army Maj. Gen. Paul Vallely, an outspoken critic of the Obama administration, notes how the White House fails to take action or investigate its own officials but finds it easy to fire military commanders “who have given their lives for their country.” Vallely thinks he knows why this purge is happening.

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35 posted on 10/30/2013 10:27:08 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (0bama lied, Stevens died, now 0bama covers up the lies.)
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To: Michael.SF.

I know Paul Vallely. He is doing this for entirely different reasons. This is all bunk. The White House is not firing these people, they are being fired by their chain of command for running their ship aground, having an affair with a subordinate’s wife, alcohol problems, integrity problems just as a small fraction of senior commanders have done for a very long time.

This is nonsense.


36 posted on 10/30/2013 12:14:07 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: centurion316

So why would Vallely be lying about this?


37 posted on 10/30/2013 1:11:12 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (0bama lied, Stevens died, now 0bama covers up the lies.)
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To: Michael.SF.

Paul Vallely doesn’t lie, he just misrepresents the things that he says,

Google him and you will find that the bios on Wikipedia, his web sites, etc. make it appear that he is a retired Army Major General. True, but not the entire story, He graduated from West Point in 1961 and served in Vietnam, but left the Army as a Major to pursue a civilian career. He rose through the ranks as a part time soldier in the Army Reserve to be a Major General. He doesn’t want his audience to know that about him, so its hard to find. Add Army Reserve to your search term and you will see the rest of the story.

He has every right to advocate his political views and to promote his business endeavors as an analyst and pundit. But, that doesn’t make him a military expert and he isn’t. He doesn’t have much more inside information that you do and he is not held in very high regard within the Army. He knows very little about the Navy. So, be careful where you get your information and be more critical of the information that comes your way. Have you even looked at the names on the list? Have you Googled them to find out what was reported at the time of their relief? Those reports paint a very different picture that the story that Paul Valleley is trying to peddle.


38 posted on 10/30/2013 1:24:29 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: RoosterRedux

that is not all he is purging.

U.S. Air Force fires general overseeing nuclear missiles
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/11/us-usa-nuclear-idUSBRE99A0KG20131011

Vice Adm. Tim Giardina Fired as No. 2 Nuclear Commander
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/vice-adm-tim-giardina-fired-nuclear-commander/story?id=20524735

Plus, I remember two different stories of purging the key turners. He is either setting us up to not respond to an attack, or he is setting us up to attack someone (Israel?).

Regardless, it is disconcerting. If we survive Obama, the Republican should consider reinstating or at least reviewing all the officers and Secret Service personnel (phony prostitute scandal?) that have been discharged or demoted, and look at whether Obama’s appointees should be purged.

I also hope there is a massive purge at that Snake (State) Department.


39 posted on 10/30/2013 2:53:08 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty or Big Government - you can't have both.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Any evidence that Carey got fired for anything other than alcohol abuse? Any evidence that Giardina got fired for anything other than a gambling issue?

The problem with all of these tall tales is that people just make up nonsense and before long it takes on a life of its own. There are plenty of rumors of purges, but no evidence to back it up. But, that’s the great think about these conspiracy fantasies - they don’t need no stinkin’ evidence.


40 posted on 10/30/2013 3:10:05 PM PDT by centurion316
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